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February 12, 2017, 10:39:41 AM
#51
Well Im thinking that what if, for example, the father is the mayor then after that no one in the family can enter the politics anymore. So that no one will follow the step of that father and we dont know if hes doing good or bad. Well just a thought. Smiley!

That will be unfair to the children of the politicians. They have the right to enter politics, and you can't bar them from doing that by saying that the parent was a politician. But still, I am against family rule in politics.
That is the reality, those son and daughter nowadays are really following the footsteps of their parents and yes it is unfair for those who really deserves to enter politics, but how can you blame the mindset of people they are just telling what they are seeing. And sometimes other just use the name of their parents not because they deserve to.
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February 11, 2017, 02:23:59 PM
#50
Well Im thinking that what if, for example, the father is the mayor then after that no one in the family can enter the politics anymore. So that no one will follow the step of that father and we dont know if hes doing good or bad. Well just a thought. Smiley!

That will be unfair to the children of the politicians. They have the right to enter politics, and you can't bar them from doing that by saying that the parent was a politician. But still, I am against family rule in politics.
Unfortunately, clan politics is not know-how. And not only in politics. What you do not know your family clans in medicine? By the way, and in medicine, I did not see that the children were at the level of their parents. But more skilled workers not their families are not allowed.
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February 11, 2017, 11:12:50 AM
#49
Well Im thinking that what if, for example, the father is the mayor then after that no one in the family can enter the politics anymore. So that no one will follow the step of that father and we dont know if hes doing good or bad. Well just a thought. Smiley!

That will be unfair to the children of the politicians. They have the right to enter politics, and you can't bar them from doing that by saying that the parent was a politician. But still, I am against family rule in politics.
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February 11, 2017, 11:05:32 AM
#48
Well Im thinking that what if, for example, the father is the mayor then after that no one in the family can enter the politics anymore. So that no one will follow the step of that father and we dont know if hes doing good or bad. Well just a thought. Smiley!
In many industries there is a family dynasty. Good or bad? If the child sees how politics is done if his father teaches with specific examples, what's wrong? I think that son will be a good politician.
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February 11, 2017, 10:56:03 AM
#47
The best way to eradicate corruption and crime is to ensure a strong job market where everyone is able to work and have a good job, without needing to resort to nefarious means to provide for themselves & their families.

It invokes wealth and wage equality, a fair and decent standard of living for poor to middle class income earners.

Crime and corruption are what people turn to when they feel abandoned by politicians, world leaders & feel as if they have no hope. Crime is a last resort.

I know I once read of a study somewhere where an African country attempted to eradicate corruption within the police force by raising the pay of the workers and even hiring more people. It actually lead to the exact opposite happening in the country where there was the same amount of more corruption occurring, the person who led the findings had stated that the reason for corruption still occurring is because the police in the country had a much higher pay in mind for the type of work they're doing.

People are never going to leave corruption, its part of us as GREED is one with people. You commit such acts of stealing to make some money due to the greed inside you, the greed to never have enough and keep wanting more and more. You won't be able to remove corruption entirely, but with a strong centralized government where such corruption acts are punished with high punishments it will limit the amount that occurs.
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February 11, 2017, 10:23:27 AM
#46
Well Im thinking that what if, for example, the father is the mayor then after that no one in the family can enter the politics anymore. So that no one will follow the step of that father and we dont know if hes doing good or bad. Well just a thought. Smiley!
It is called political dynasty, here in our country it has been a big issue because some politicians just won because their father is a former Mayor or a governor etc. and it is sometimes has negative effect because some politicians don't have experience in public service or don't even study political course, they just won because of their last name.
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February 11, 2017, 10:13:55 AM
#45
Well Im thinking that what if, for example, the father is the mayor then after that no one in the family can enter the politics anymore. So that no one will follow the step of that father and we dont know if hes doing good or bad. Well just a thought. Smiley!
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February 10, 2017, 01:10:29 PM
#44
you cant cure corruption entirely caz they goverment it self made the laws that made sure corruption is okay and not 100% detected
We always discuss corruption forgetting that the coin has two sides. There are also people who allow the corrupt officials to make money. They are no less guilty. The fight against corruption also applies to them.
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February 10, 2017, 01:05:28 PM
#43
you cant cure corruption entirely caz they goverment it self made the laws that made sure corruption is okay and not 100% detected
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February 10, 2017, 01:02:13 PM
#42
For me, the most efficient way to eradicate is to give a lot's of powers to medias (TV, news papers, etc....)
And we must also to be held laws very restrictive.
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February 10, 2017, 10:09:02 AM
#41
If a government employee being caught taking bribe or embezzling funds from the budget, even single time, remove presumption of innocence from all his assets (house, land, car, jewelry, bank account etc) and require him to prove source of the income from which he had acquired these assets. If he cannot prove legality of his incomes, confiscate ALL properties belonging to him or transferred to his relatives after investigation started.

For many corruptioners prison time is nothing! After serving few years he can start living like a millionaire having money he stole.

I am happy you said 'if' so which means if I am not caught, I am not corrupt and the government wouldnt have stopped any corruption in the first place even in countries where there is capital punishment for corruption people still engage in it. So they would have done more if the worst that would have happen to them is losing the wealth. The best way is to block the source of the wealth when there is no too much money only few will be available for stealing.
I do not agree. Corrupt always takes money for something that helps to circumvent any provision of the law. It seems to me that the best way to fight corruption is to cancel such provisions of the law.
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February 10, 2017, 10:03:43 AM
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If a government employee being caught taking bribe or embezzling funds from the budget, even single time, remove presumption of innocence from all his assets (house, land, car, jewelry, bank account etc) and require him to prove source of the income from which he had acquired these assets. If he cannot prove legality of his incomes, confiscate ALL properties belonging to him or transferred to his relatives after investigation started.

For many corruptioners prison time is nothing! After serving few years he can start living like a millionaire having money he stole.

I am happy you said 'if' so which means if I am not caught, I am not corrupt and the government wouldnt have stopped any corruption in the first place even in countries where there is capital punishment for corruption people still engage in it. So they would have done more if the worst that would have happen to them is losing the wealth. The best way is to block the source of the wealth when there is no too much money only few will be available for stealing.
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February 10, 2017, 10:00:05 AM
#39
corruption has been always a part of politics maybe even in the beginning of politicscorruption  will never be out of role , I believe it's because of lack of guidelines regarding that that the punishment is too low for them to be afraid ! if someone will just speak up and raise a bill regarding corruption acts that will insanely be afraid those are corrupts maybe it will stop or it will be lessen close to non
Because people nowadays don't really contented and satisfied what they do have and if you are in politics it is to get money so they are persuaded in money. Although not all people can do that but sad to say almost all politicians can especially here in our country. Maybe because they want to secure themselves and their family in the future.
The corrupt will never be able to protect themselves. It always depends on the authorities. As soon as the authorities which he pays for silence will change it is always possible arrest, but his family will be provided for all.
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February 10, 2017, 09:19:29 AM
#38
corruption has been always a part of politics maybe even in the beginning of politicscorruption  will never be out of role , I believe it's because of lack of guidelines regarding that that the punishment is too low for them to be afraid ! if someone will just speak up and raise a bill regarding corruption acts that will insanely be afraid those are corrupts maybe it will stop or it will be lessen close to non
Because people nowadays don't really contented and satisfied what they do have and if you are in politics it is to get money so they are persuaded in money. Although not all people can do that but sad to say almost all politicians can especially here in our country. Maybe because they want to secure themselves and their family in the future.
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February 10, 2017, 09:06:18 AM
#37
corruption has been always a part of politics maybe even in the beginning of politicscorruption  will never be out of role , I believe it's because of lack of guidelines regarding that that the punishment is too low for them to be afraid ! if someone will just speak up and raise a bill regarding corruption acts that will insanely be afraid those are corrupts maybe it will stop or it will be lessen close to non
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February 10, 2017, 01:57:32 AM
#36
In my country corruption imprisoned in a very luxurious by paying some money. One of the TV station in my country broadcast a prison corruption perpetrators is like apartments and there are many facilities such as tv, laptop, bathroom, dining room, and even they can get out to meet her family with a certain time limit. More ironically again the corruption money is not returned so it can be enjoyed by the perpetrators and their families. Efficient way to eradicate corruption maybe with a maximum prison and bring back the money stolen, or may be able to emulate China which execute  the perpetrators of corruption with hanged or shot.
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February 10, 2017, 12:59:08 AM
#35
If a government employee being caught taking bribe or embezzling funds from the budget, even single time, remove presumption of innocence from all his assets (house, land, car, jewelry, bank account etc) and require him to prove source of the income from which he had acquired these assets. If he cannot prove legality of his incomes, confiscate ALL properties belonging to him or transferred to his relatives after investigation started.

For many corruptioners prison time is nothing! After serving few years he can start living like a millionaire having money he stole.
those people who are found guilty in corruption must be sentence to death for them to fear the law !Since they will just go to prison these people don't fear anything if ever they will found guilty ! these people are stealing people money so it is just right for them to suffer this kind of consequences ! I am pretty sure that when it become implemented government officials that are corrupt will be lessen but will not vanished!

No, that's not going to be effective. Death penalty won't be a solution to corruption, in fact it can become a reason the case might end and the suspected corrupt official had already relayed his wealth to other family member... With that said, death would just make the process short, but never really solve it... When we punish, lets prolong the agony, in short lets make them suffer more...

Besides, corrupt officials are clever, who knows, they might find a escape goat and they are already free from charges...  Smiley
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February 10, 2017, 12:47:29 AM
#34
If a government employee being caught taking bribe or embezzling funds from the budget, even single time, remove presumption of innocence from all his assets (house, land, car, jewelry, bank account etc) and require him to prove source of the income from which he had acquired these assets. If he cannot prove legality of his incomes, confiscate ALL properties belonging to him or transferred to his relatives after investigation started.

For many corruptioners prison time is nothing! After serving few years he can start living like a millionaire having money he stole.
those people who are found guilty in corruption must be sentence to death for them to fear the law !Since they will just go to prison these people don't fear anything if ever they will found guilty ! these people are stealing people money so it is just right for them to suffer this kind of consequences ! I am pretty sure that when it become implemented government officials that are corrupt will be lessen but will not vanished!
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February 09, 2017, 10:43:52 PM
#33
Confiscate all of his wealth is a great idea however the one take took the effect is not only him, but also his family, and prison means nothing for the corruptor, i think the best way is exile them or maybe a dead sentence

Exiling them to other country would just excite them and probably make them free of any charges the state might file, or if the state did, probably they would escape since they are already outside the country. Putting them in prison, removing all their rights, including their right to communicate with people outside the prison, and isolate them from other prisoners with just water and food is enough. So others may learn how hard it is to be in prison because of corruption.  Smiley That's cruel I think.
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February 09, 2017, 08:24:28 PM
#32
Confiscate all of his wealth is a great idea however the one take took the effect is not only him, but also his family, and prison means nothing for the corruptor, i think the best way is exile them or maybe a dead sentence
I think that just to confiscate funds and property from corrupt will not work. All their wealth on relatives and friends. They have nothing. I think that the corrupt officials to impose the death penalty and be given the opportunity to pay off.
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