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My suggestion is that they should reduce the amount and hopefully, it will become more attractive to investors.

The link you added is not showing the right news. This one is the correct one.

https://news.bitcoin.com/latam-insights-salvadoran-bitcoin-visa-program-fails-brazil-floats-tax-on-stablecoin-remittances/

Thanks for the correction, your link is correct. talking about Bitcoin Visa, common sense is quite heavy. The target of 1000 people is indeed big, while the attractiveness of El Salvador is not entirely good. There is no word yet on how the accumulated BTC purchase profits are up to the current price. I think they have profited a lot. Another news is that Bukele's vision is not working with the support of his community. Bukele has published a law but most restaurants, shops and hotels don't even accept Bitcoin payments. They show confusion about if anyone will make payments with Bitcoin.

Source: https://reason.com/2024/10/31/a-week-of-failing-to-pay-with-bitcoin-in-el-salvador/
In my opinion, this is a serious problem for the development of bitcoin adoption in El Salvador. Because of course the adoption of bitcoin will not run smoothly in El Salvador if for example its citizens don't jump in and use bitcoin in real life. So, in my personal opinion, Bukele should continue to instill deeper trust in Bitcoin among his citizens. Because if it's not like that, in the end legal bitcoin in El Salvador will only become law and bitcoin will not be widely used by its citizens (the majority). However, it cannot be denied that changing direction regarding the use of currency is certainly not an easy thing. Moreover, in El Salvador, not only bitcoin can be used for transactions, but there are also dollars, which of course is the currency that many El Salvadorans choose to use for transactions. That's why it's a bit difficult for residents in El Salvador to be invited to use bitcoin as a means of transaction, because there are dollars. But it can't be helped, if for example the Dollar was completely removed from El Salvador, it would definitely cause quite bad things too. Therefore, currently Bukele must continue to make his citizens believe in bitcoin, and must continue to be patient in waiting for his citizens to realize and trust bitcoin. Because it can be ascertained by the lack of people in El Salvador who carry out transactions using bitcoin, people who own shops or hotels in El Salvador will definitely be quite hesitant to accept transactions using bitcoin. But even so, I personally believe that for example Bukele can continue to be consistent with his current vision (adopting bitcoin successfully in El Salvador). I am sure that sooner or later his vision will be achieved.
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My suggestion is that they should reduce the amount and hopefully, it will become more attractive to investors.

The link you added is not showing the right news. This one is the correct one.

https://news.bitcoin.com/latam-insights-salvadoran-bitcoin-visa-program-fails-brazil-floats-tax-on-stablecoin-remittances/

Thanks for the correction, your link is correct. talking about Bitcoin Visa, common sense is quite heavy. The target of 1000 people is indeed big, while the attractiveness of El Salvador is not entirely good. There is no word yet on how the accumulated BTC purchase profits are up to the current price. I think they have profited a lot. Another news is that Bukele's vision is not working with the support of his community. Bukele has published a law but most restaurants, shops and hotels don't even accept Bitcoin payments. They show confusion about if anyone will make payments with Bitcoin.

Source: https://reason.com/2024/10/31/a-week-of-failing-to-pay-with-bitcoin-in-el-salvador/

Maybe with time, things will change.
Hopefully, it will be safe and sound, and people will try it out and see the advantages.
 Roll Eyes
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My suggestion is that they should reduce the amount and hopefully, it will become more attractive to investors.

The link you added is not showing the right news. This one is the correct one.

https://news.bitcoin.com/latam-insights-salvadoran-bitcoin-visa-program-fails-brazil-floats-tax-on-stablecoin-remittances/

Thanks for the correction, your link is correct. talking about Bitcoin Visa, common sense is quite heavy. The target of 1000 people is indeed big, while the attractiveness of El Salvador is not entirely good. There is no word yet on how the accumulated BTC purchase profits are up to the current price. I think they have profited a lot. Another news is that Bukele's vision is not working with the support of his community. Bukele has published a law but most restaurants, shops and hotels don't even accept Bitcoin payments. They show confusion about if anyone will make payments with Bitcoin.

Source: https://reason.com/2024/10/31/a-week-of-failing-to-pay-with-bitcoin-in-el-salvador/
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and so there were some problems with how the payments were made including some ways that people ended up claiming $30 that was supposed to be the airdrop of other citizens.  The intention may well have had been good, but the roll out of the $30 airdrop had a lot of problems.

Problems are part of success. I am very happy with El Salvador's bold move, they dare to take risks in all development limitations. Even they are currently considered successful because of the accumulation of BTC purchases. I think they continue to try to fix the problems that have been obtained for the time being. But today I read the news that one of the programs they created failed. This program is Bitcoin Visa. The news I read until now is that no Visa has been issued from the Bitcoin adoption program. The original plan of this program aimed to attract 1,000 investors to settle in El Salvador, to raise $1 billion.

Source: https://news.bitcoin.com
Being the first country to make Bitcoin a legal tender, they will make mistakes and also learn from them which will help them to keep improving. I think the government will have to evaluate the Bitcoin Visa program and identify why investors are not considering the opportunity. My observation is that the $1millon investment benchmark is too high. Some other countries are offering citizens by investment for as low as $200k. My suggestion is that they should reduce the amount and hopefully, it will become more attractive to investors.

The link you added is not showing the right news. This one is the correct one.

https://news.bitcoin.com/latam-insights-salvadoran-bitcoin-visa-program-fails-brazil-floats-tax-on-stablecoin-remittances/
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In the country of El Salvador, the school of the country of Honduras will be built due to the generosity of President Nayib Bukele. Because of his right and generous mindset, students in this poor country will be able to gain knowledge about education, and these students will learn about the history of the school being built with bitcoins deposited in Nayib Bukele, and they will be more interested in bitcoin.
The liberal mindedness of present day hero Bukhel is providing special education to thousands of students, and this liberal mindedness is being appreciated all over the world. These students will surely be interested in learning more about Bitcoin later on and grow as holders.
I wish everyone had a president like Bukele. There are very few people like him now. Everyone is just putting money in their own pockets. It's great that children from poor families will be able to get a free education, which is very relevant in the current reality. There are few countries that are betting on cryptocurrencies. Quite the opposite, all they do is ban blockchain technology and its derivatives, not allowing anyone to even think about starting to study this area. And there is no talk of investing and buying crypto.

On a side note - BTC is the escaper for those countries who cannot compete with those who don't see as many possibilities regarding BTC or crypto in general.
They will have an edge for a little time before the big fellas will come up and grab the sweetest parts of the pie when the time comes.
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In the country of El Salvador, the school of the country of Honduras will be built due to the generosity of President Nayib Bukele. Because of his right and generous mindset, students in this poor country will be able to gain knowledge about education, and these students will learn about the history of the school being built with bitcoins deposited in Nayib Bukele, and they will be more interested in bitcoin.
The liberal mindedness of present day hero Bukhel is providing special education to thousands of students, and this liberal mindedness is being appreciated all over the world. These students will surely be interested in learning more about Bitcoin later on and grow as holders.
I wish everyone had a president like Bukele. There are very few people like him now. Everyone is just putting money in their own pockets. It's great that children from poor families will be able to get a free education, which is very relevant in the current reality. There are few countries that are betting on cryptocurrencies. Quite the opposite, all they do is ban blockchain technology and its derivatives, not allowing anyone to even think about starting to study this area. And there is no talk of investing and buying crypto.
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and so there were some problems with how the payments were made including some ways that people ended up claiming $30 that was supposed to be the airdrop of other citizens.  The intention may well have had been good, but the roll out of the $30 airdrop had a lot of problems.

Problems are part of success. I am very happy with El Salvador's bold move, they dare to take risks in all development limitations. Even they are currently considered successful because of the accumulation of BTC purchases. I think they continue to try to fix the problems that have been obtained for the time being. But today I read the news that one of the programs they created failed. This program is Bitcoin Visa. The news I read until now is that no Visa has been issued from the Bitcoin adoption program. The original plan of this program aimed to attract 1,000 investors to settle in El Salvador, to raise $1 billion.

Source: https://news.bitcoin.com
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Old news, it has been legal tender for a very long time. The president of El Salvador even did a deal with a crypto exchange to give every citizen like $5 of crypto each a few years ago I recall.

I believe that the El Salvador law defined Bitcoin as legal tender June 7, 2021 with an effective date three months after the passage of the law on September 7, 2021.

There were some screw ups with the airdrop of bitcoin to Salvadorean citizens (and yes it was bitcoin not crypto.. fuck crypto and shitcoins, El Salvador passed a law to make bitcoin legal tender, not shitcoins), but right around the same time that bitcoin became legal tender.  In order to receive the $30 equivalent airdrop, the Salvadorean needed to download and register the Chivo app, and so there were some problems with how the payments were made including some ways that people ended up claiming $30 that was supposed to be the airdrop of other citizens.  The intention may well have had been good, but the roll out of the $30 airdrop had a lot of problems.

Edit: We mentioned some similar ideas, yet Die_empty's post beat mine by 13 seconds.
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Old news, it has been legal tender for a very long time. The president of El Salvador even did a deal with a crypto exchange to give every citizen like $5 of crypto each a few years ago I recall.
Using the word "crypto" is unacceptable in this case and the amount you stated is incorrect. The government of El Salvador ordered the transfer of $30 to the wallet of any citizen who downloads the Chivo wallet. Using the word crypto makes it look like they received a shitcoin from the government. There is a clear difference between Bitcoin and altcoins, next time you need to name the specific coins. 
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Old news, it has been legal tender for a very long time. The president of El Salvador even did a deal with a crypto exchange to give every citizen like $5 of crypto each a few years ago I recall.
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In the country of El Salvador, the school of the country of Honduras will be built due to the generosity of President Nayib Bukele. Because of his right and generous mindset, students in this poor country will be able to gain knowledge about education, and these students will learn about the history of the school being built with bitcoins deposited in Nayib Bukele, and they will be more interested in bitcoin.
The liberal mindedness of present day hero Bukhel is providing special education to thousands of students, and this liberal mindedness is being appreciated all over the world. These students will surely be interested in learning more about Bitcoin later on and grow as holders.


Yes, it is true that there is a positive aspect... but let's not forget that Bukele is a millionaire, and mind you, it's not that I question it, not at all., but we have to look at the facts as they are, this "philanthropy" has as its very fact the intrinsic process that Bukele seeks to promote a pro-bitcoin idea in Central America, and Honduras is a "candidate" to join that group with El Salvador.

Honduras' GDP, better than El Salvador's, has in fact been growing constantly since the second decade, you can see it in detail in the source below (it's Spanish, sorry).

El Salvador's GDP is number 104 among the 196 in the world, that tells you why the money comes out of Bukele's pocket and not the president's, this type of "donations" between countries exist through different agreements, but El Salvador's economy is so poor that this type of situation comes out of the pocket (peculium) of the individual who serves as president.

I repeat, we must look at the brilliance in politics with the lenses of "why", I do not doubt that the intentions are exceptional, but this is nothing other than "political lobbying in the region".

When Bukele, I say, in the future, no longer being president makes these donations, then... it is in my opinion true philanthropy of the individual to a cause, in this case for bitcoin.

And everything I have said seems to have a tone of criticism, but nothing to do with it, on the contrary, despite this "rigged" re-election I still believe in Bukele, but we must look at the political approach.


PIB El Salvador:https://datosmacro.expansion.com/pib/el-salvador
El Salvador vs. Honduras;https://datosmacro.expansion.com/paises/comparar/el-salvador/honduras
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Legislation on bitcoin and digital assets in El Salvador is gradually developing and supplemented by the legislators of this country.
As an example, amendments to the legislation on licensing companies for the turnover of bitcoin and other digital assets were recently adopted. This licensing began to take into account the regional peculiarities of the turnover of these assets in other countries. The problem that the authorities of the country solved in this case was that there was an abuse of licensing. And this license was used by some companies simply as a marketing move and additional advertising outside of El Salvador itself.  Statistics have shown that of the 106 bitcoin service providers registered in El Salvador with such a license, only 20 actually operate in the country. And there are 16 authorized digital asset service providers, but only 11 of them have real activity in the country. Since El Salvador is not a jurisdiction in which they operate, such permission becomes only a screen, since it is the authorities of the countries in which they are actually present who should take on this issue. But it is also extremely serious that these countries simply do not have a regulatory framework at all. In general, the situation can, of course, theoretically undermine the image of El Salvador as a leading state in these matters of digital assets and licensing.
Understanding the relevance of this problem, the country's authorities resolved this issue at the legislative level.
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That's how it is! This announcement was left for the end of the 2021 Bitcoin Conference with the participation of Jack Mallers.
Among the most impressive that helped me understand why bitcoin will be the currency that will lead the country of El Salvador is this.

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"Over 70% of the active population of El Salvador doesn't have a bank account. They're not in the financial system." -Jack Mallers

https://twitter.com/TheBitcoinConf/status/1401279373223866369?s=19

At the conference the president of El Salvador makes the announcement.

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President of El Salvador, Nayib Bukele: "Next week I will send to congress a bill that will make #bitcoin a legal tender."

https://twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1401279550538108933?s=19


It feels like an eternity since then.
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El Salvador's President Nayib Bukele Donates 2 Bitcoin To Support Funding For 1,000 Schools Through Charity Run, On Wednesday, Stacy Herbert, Director of El Salvaodor's National Bitcoin Office, shared that President Bukele personally donated 2 BTCs from his wallet to Fujiyama.

In a video attached to the post, an emotional Fujiyama can be seen talking to Bukele, expressing his gratitude to the president.


https://x.com/stacyherbert/status/1849223444207919526

The philanthropist was currently on a 3,000 km charity run to raise funds to build 1000 schools in Honduras, a country with high levels of poverty. He founded Students Helping Honduras, an international non-profit to address socio-economic challenges in the region.


Earlier this year, Bukele reaffirmed El Salvador’s policy of buying one Bitcoin a day, stating that it would continue until Bitcoin becomes unaffordable with fiat currencies. As of this writing, it had 5,912.76 units of the cryptocurrency in its reserves, worth $397 million.

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In the country of El Salvador, the school of the country of Honduras will be built due to the generosity of President Nayib Bukele. Because of his right and generous mindset, students in this poor country will be able to gain knowledge about education, and these students will learn about the history of the school being built with bitcoins deposited in Nayib Bukele, and they will be more interested in bitcoin.
The liberal mindedness of present day hero Bukhel is providing special education to thousands of students, and this liberal mindedness is being appreciated all over the world. These students will surely be interested in learning more about Bitcoin later on and grow as holders.
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El Salvador's President Nayib Bukele Donates 2 Bitcoin To Support Funding For 1,000 Schools Through Charity Run, On Wednesday, Stacy Herbert, Director of El Salvaodor's National Bitcoin Office, shared that President Bukele personally donated 2 BTCs from his wallet to Fujiyama.

In a video attached to the post, an emotional Fujiyama can be seen talking to Bukele, expressing his gratitude to the president.


https://x.com/stacyherbert/status/1849223444207919526

The philanthropist was currently on a 3,000 km charity run to raise funds to build 1000 schools in Honduras, a country with high levels of poverty. He founded Students Helping Honduras, an international non-profit to address socio-economic challenges in the region.


Earlier this year, Bukele reaffirmed El Salvador’s policy of buying one Bitcoin a day, stating that it would continue until Bitcoin becomes unaffordable with fiat currencies. As of this writing, it had 5,912.76 units of the cryptocurrency in its reserves, worth $397 million.

News source
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We already know that with Gresham's law, people are going to spend their less valuable money first, and so if bitcoin is the most valuable, then bitcoin would be the money that would be spent last. .. which also would mean that there needs to be some discretionary income and even ability to hold bitcoin for several years, such as 4-10 years or more in order to justify the potential volatility of it.
This hits me directly. Whenever I am in need of cash and visit my portfolio, even if BTC is on green that I should atleast cash out a little percentage, I'll be hesitant of doing that. Instead I'll resort to using my USDT if I have any. BTC obviously to me is the last coin to spend and I believe it's so to others who also understand and values bitcoin.
Not using BTC frequently, is truly not a sign of bitcoin failure in El Salvador.

The truth is that its because you understand the importance and value of Bitcoin being used as a store of value and that's almost what every bitcoiner today term and use bitcoin.  Bitcoin is an asset that grows over time and if you as a bitcoin holder know this then the temptation of tempering or using your bitcoin wouldn't be an issue for you and I believe el Salvador to an extent understand this phenomenon too.

If I talk about using Bitcoin name in El Salvador then 50+% of total population is using Bitcoin name. But El Salvador still has a large number of people holding Bitcoin, but El Salvador has seen the most recent change in Bitcoin holdings. El Salvador has now come to the world of civilization, holding on to people who were superstitious, and robberies, liars, fights. That's why many tourists are flocking to Salva and they are using Bitcoin currency, which is also the most positive aspect because people from different countries are finding aspects of their civilization in El Salvador.
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We already know that with Gresham's law, people are going to spend their less valuable money first, and so if bitcoin is the most valuable, then bitcoin would be the money that would be spent last. .. which also would mean that there needs to be some discretionary income and even ability to hold bitcoin for several years, such as 4-10 years or more in order to justify the potential volatility of it.
This hits me directly. Whenever I am in need of cash and visit my portfolio, even if BTC is on green that I should atleast cash out a little percentage, I'll be hesitant of doing that. Instead I'll resort to using my USDT if I have any. BTC obviously to me is the last coin to spend and I believe it's so to others who also understand and values bitcoin.
Not using BTC frequently, is truly not a sign of bitcoin failure in El Salvador.

The truth is that its because you understand the importance and value of Bitcoin being used as a store of value and that's almost what every bitcoiner today term and use bitcoin.  Bitcoin is an asset that grows over time and if you as a bitcoin holder know this then the temptation of tempering or using your bitcoin wouldn't be an issue for you and I believe el Salvador to an extent understand this phenomenon too.
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We already know that with Gresham's law, people are going to spend their less valuable money first, and so if bitcoin is the most valuable, then bitcoin would be the money that would be spent last. .. which also would mean that there needs to be some discretionary income and even ability to hold bitcoin for several years, such as 4-10 years or more in order to justify the potential volatility of it.
This hits me directly. Whenever I am in need of cash and visit my portfolio, even if BTC is on green that I should atleast cash out a little percentage, I'll be hesitant of doing that. Instead I'll resort to using my USDT if I have any. BTC obviously to me is the last coin to spend and I believe it's so to others who also understand and values bitcoin.
Not using BTC frequently, is truly not a sign of bitcoin failure in El Salvador.
The most important thing to do to sustain your bitcoin holding and spending less of your total bitcoin is to have an extra cash flow that can take care of your daily spending and not relying on your bitcoin holding for any emergency spending since you have other sources to cover up for such a time, exchanging your bitcoin each time is a big lose and if there is any alternative that can change cover up for such spending, then bitcoin should be the last least of your options.

Bitcoin should be held for long term base, and as a matter of fact we all need to build on the existing knowledge that, it best for not spend your bitcoin at all, which is the reason one need to build extra cash flow that will take the pressure away from your bitcoin holding.
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We already know that with Gresham's law, people are going to spend their less valuable money first, and so if bitcoin is the most valuable, then bitcoin would be the money that would be spent last. .. which also would mean that there needs to be some discretionary income and even ability to hold bitcoin for several years, such as 4-10 years or more in order to justify the potential volatility of it.
This hits me directly. Whenever I am in need of cash and visit my portfolio, even if BTC is on green that I should atleast cash out a little percentage, I'll be hesitant of doing that. Instead I'll resort to using my USDT if I have any. BTC obviously to me is the last coin to spend and I believe it's so to others who also understand and values bitcoin.
Not using BTC frequently, is truly not a sign of bitcoin failure in El Salvador.
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Salvadorans May Like Bukele But They Aren’t Using Bitcoin, Survey Finds
A new University report shows that not many people are using the orange coin to buy things in El Salvador.

Salvadorans may like President Nayib Bukele for cleaning up the country’s once disastrous security situation. But at least one policy isn’t sticking: Bitcoin.

That’s according to a new survey from the San Salvador University Francisco Gavidia, which found only 7.5% of people interviewed said they use cryptocurrency to make transactions, while 92% admitted they didn’t.

El Salvador made Bitcoin legal tender in the country in 2021, the idea of its millennial leader—and prolific tweeter—Bukele. Businesses are legally obligated to accept the cryptocurrency if they have the technological means to do so.

President Bukele has also gone on Bitcoin-buying sprees but has been criticized by U.S. politicians and the likes of the International Monetary Fund for doing so.

The survey from Francisco Gavidia University added that only 1.3% of people said they thought Bitcoin should be the country’s main bet in the future.

President Bukele has tried to woo foreign investment with his bet on Bitcoin, promising visas and even a volcano-powered Bitcoin City.

Some 58% of those surveyed said they thought the country was headed in the right direction and were overwhelmingly supportive of President Bukele. The survey spoke to 1,224 Salvadorans aged 18 and on everything from the economy to security.

In an August interview with TIME, President Bukele said fewer Salvadorans were using the cryptocurrency than expected. “Bitcoin hasn’t had the widespread adoption we hoped for,” he said.

Source Link: https://decrypt.co/286463/salvadorans-like-bukele-but-arent-using-bitcoin-survey-says

From this post we can learn the people of El Salvador country who have benefited from using Bitcoin and are successful, but still those who are cursing this Bitcoin are mainly terrorists of El Salvador country. Because the relatives of the terrorists who arrested and imprisoned the terrorists who pacified the current country of El Salvador are the ones who are currently hindering the use of Bitcoin. 
So 58% of the people in Salvador support the use of Bitcoin, but the biggest positive is that it has the most support from young people. El Salvador is now a quiet favorite country and is making huge strides in Bitcoin usage.

We already know that with Gresham's law, people are going to spend their less valuable money first, and so if bitcoin is the most valuable, then bitcoin would be the money that would be spent last. .. which also would mean that there needs to be some discretionary income and even ability to hold bitcoin for several years, such as 4-10 years or more in order to justify the potential volatility of it.

At least they are not restricted in terms of accounting (such as taxes) or other draconian measures - and we know if BTC is used peer to peer there is no KYC/AML type requirements, yet if there are interfaces with 3rd parties, then there might be KYC/AML requirements. .which some folks might not want to do.
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