Can't wait. It's an interesting experiment. I'd be willing to get in at $0.10.
I think a minimum of 0.10$ and a maximum of 1$ will be the price 
Topic: Elastic (XEL) Price Speculation - #Added to Bittrex - page 17. (Read 54110 times)
XEL will EASILY hit 1$ per coin, thats an mcap of 100million. This will be the short term price. Looking to the tech it really has much more potential. I think with good management and so on, XEL can reach a $1 billion marketcap in a few years and even more than that.
Patience is a virtue
Patience is a virtue
Of course, it would have been great if EK spent couple of days to automate this kind of trading through genesis block modification. I am perfectly sure it wont take more than that, as its pretty easy, especially for a developer of his scale.
In fact, I have offered that here few months ago (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16991354), but got zero responce. I suppose EK is just isn't interested in doing that, and by some reason community is not thinking in that direction at all (instead of posting here useless and sure-risky sell offers, it would have been more useful to kindly ask devs to implement this trading mechanism).
In fact, I have offered that here few months ago (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16991354), but got zero responce. I suppose EK is just isn't interested in doing that, and by some reason community is not thinking in that direction at all (instead of posting here useless and sure-risky sell offers, it would have been more useful to kindly ask devs to implement this trading mechanism).
I guess nobody wants to actively implement that because he would immediately go from coder to service provider. I at least don't want to be involved in any trading (except selling my own XEL), especially not responsible or the "middleman" for any trades between other people (this is what I would be if I tracked "trades" in my git).
Actually, I don't want to be involved in anything what other third parties do between themselves - not as an escrow, not as a service provider, not as a middleman, ...
I just code, and I don't run any service (and never will). But I am sure, if the community wants something like that, it will figure out something on its owm.
Thanks, thats exactly what I expected to be your position on this
. And that is completely understandable and sure we all respect that 100%.If community is indeed interested in trading, I suppose it could at least show its interest in developing the means for that (as a first step), so someone could step up and offer his services. Up to now I don't see much interest in trading coming from core members of community, so I guess its ok the way it is...
As to your statement "I don't run any service (and never will)" - never say "never"
. Coding is great fun, but with some years passing you may find other things becoming more interesting to you... Having more diverse experience could be much more fun than doing the same thing, even if that thing is what you like the most. Sorry for offtopic... I'm just speaking from my own experience, and though I cannot be perfectly sure it will apply to you too, but I guess it could 
Of course, it would have been great if EK spent couple of days to automate this kind of trading through genesis block modification. I am perfectly sure it wont take more than that, as its pretty easy, especially for a developer of his scale.
In fact, I have offered that here few months ago (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16991354), but got zero responce. I suppose EK is just isn't interested in doing that, and by some reason community is not thinking in that direction at all (instead of posting here useless and sure-risky sell offers, it would have been more useful to kindly ask devs to implement this trading mechanism).
In fact, I have offered that here few months ago (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16991354), but got zero responce. I suppose EK is just isn't interested in doing that, and by some reason community is not thinking in that direction at all (instead of posting here useless and sure-risky sell offers, it would have been more useful to kindly ask devs to implement this trading mechanism).
I guess nobody wants to actively implement that because he would immediately go from coder to service provider. I at least don't want to be involved in any trading (except selling my own XEL), especially not responsible or the "middleman" for any trades between other people (this is what I would be if I tracked "trades" in my git).
Actually, I don't want to be involved in anything what other third parties do between themselves - not as an escrow, not as a service provider, not as a middleman, ...
I just code, and I don't run any service (and never will). But I am sure, if the community wants something like that, it will figure out something on its owm.
Dude, did you see this topic: https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/t/trading-without-mainnet/84
btw, any xel followers can follow to new our XEL Talk forum
btw, any xel followers can follow to new our XEL Talk forum
Responded. In general I think it would be great if we allow people with private keys in the genesis to sign messages such as "I hereby transfer
This can also allow a foundation to be created, before main net launch, as I would be willing to donate a % of XEL, as well as I may want to give up a small % of the holding.
Of course, it would have been great if EK spent couple of days to automate this kind of trading through genesis block modification. I am perfectly sure it wont take more than that, as its pretty easy, especially for a developer of his scale.
In fact, I have offered that here few months ago (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16991354), but got zero responce. I suppose EK is just isn't interested in doing that, and by some reason community is not thinking in that direction at all (instead of posting here useless and sure-risky sell offers, it would have been more useful to kindly ask devs to implement this trading mechanism).
What strikes me as odd, is that people are far more willing to buy into something that has promises, v.s. something that is already working. It's the whole "speculation" thing. While there is hope things get overpriced. Once targets are delivered, it's when things dump, since there is nothing more to "hope for".
That's one great observation.
Maybe that's because people consider the working product to have reached his potential, so there is no huge room for growth anymore. With unfinished one however, things are not settled and there is a hope the current valuation is taking into account the 'unfinished' state, so speculators think it will raise more when the actual product is implemented.
In any case, people like something growing and unfinished. If XEL has no plans for growth announced after release, it'll have hard time to get as high as Golem climbed. Expectation is everything.
In general, some people (including me, honestly) value good expectations and feeling of anticipation more than the actual reached goals, even if that doesn't sound that logical...
With this in mind, wouldn't it be better to launch XEL mainnet even before SN and GN idea?
Just a plain NXT clone with a development as a promise would drive XEL really high.
and for curiosity: did anyone complete XEL trade?
It would definitely be much better in terms of price and ROI... It would have been "trader's paradise"
That is basically what Golem has done.
But I don't think it would have been better for the project itself (meaning its real usage and value to anyone except speculators
). Dude, did you see this topic: https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/t/trading-without-mainnet/84
btw, any xel followers can follow to new our XEL Talk forum
btw, any xel followers can follow to new our XEL Talk forum
Responded. In general I think it would be great if we allow people with private keys in the genesis to sign messages such as "I hereby transfer
This can also allow a foundation to be created, before main net launch, as I would be willing to donate a % of XEL, as well as I may want to give up a small % of the holding.
Why not. Elastic is a very nice project but it's getting a little slower. Slow but sure steps. 10% of the investments coming to İEX and GOLEM came to us. The project is over.
What strikes me as odd, is that people are far more willing to buy into something that has promises, v.s. something that is already working. It's the whole "speculation" thing. While there is hope things get overpriced. Once targets are delivered, it's when things dump, since there is nothing more to "hope for".
That's one great observation.
Maybe that's because people consider the working product to have reached his potential, so there is no huge room for growth anymore. With unfinished one however, things are not settled and there is a hope the current valuation is taking into account the 'unfinished' state, so speculators think it will raise more when the actual product is implemented.
In any case, people like something growing and unfinished. If XEL has no plans for growth announced after release, it'll have hard time to get as high as Golem climbed. Expectation is everything.
In general, some people (including me, honestly) value good expectations and feeling of anticipation more than the actual reached goals, even if that doesn't sound that logical...
With this in mind, wouldn't it be better to launch XEL mainnet even before SN and GN idea?
Just a plain NXT clone with a development as a promise would drive XEL really high.
and for curiosity: did anyone complete XEL trade?
ICO List - [XEL] Elastic Project
WTB
Code:
Amount Prize User
__any x,xxxx PM metamorphin (after Release)
__any x,xxxx PM dranster
__any x,xxxx PM BTCspace (after Release)
__any x,xxxx PM provenceday
__any x,xxxx PM bakedrice
__any x,xxxx PM mr.coinzy (Buy with Head only)
500000 0,00001 PM xxnwxf https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=947718
250000 0,000012 PM cryptoboy.architect https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=283681
10000 0,00002 PM miayama
__any 0.00002 PM whiskers75 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=56964
__any 0.00003 PM nightwishx https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=213418
__any 0,00005 PM yangnazterp5021
__any 0,000053 PM marcus1986 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=226668
WTS
Code:
Amount Prize User
18881 0,000053 PM juras54 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=199703
17500 0,0002 PM HomoHenning
30000 0,0001 PM cryptoboy.architect https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=283681
50000 0,1 PM Evil-Knievel ?(ò_ó?)?
__any 0,1 PM Bgjjj2016 ?(ò_ó?)? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=804073
5 1 PM bobmarley650 ?(ò_ó?)? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=138323
__any x,xxxx PM dranster
WTS with verification in the ICO List
Code:
IcoNo Amount Prize User
241 57928,8268 x,xxxx PM cryptoheadd
286 34768,95853 x,xxxx PM cryptoheadd
Service: Post this template
WTB [Amount] [Prize] [USER] [Optional your Bitcointalk link]
WTS [Amount] [Prize] [USER] [Optional your Bitcointalk link]
[Prize = BTC/Amount]
More Infos here Elastic (XEL) Price Speculation https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/elastic-xel-price-speculation-added-to-bittrex-1589333
Do not buy any XEL from anyone! You'll get scammed. There is no way to buy XEL right now. Once again - do not buy any XEL, there is no guarantee that person who "sold" you XEL will not use private key before you.
Donation for Service : 1MYgcVK59yE8t4DatYqJQGxBLdgZtu61bA
Dude, did you see this topic: https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/t/trading-without-mainnet/84
btw, any xel followers can follow to new our XEL Talk forum
ICO List - [XEL] Elastic Project
WTB
Code:
Amount Prize User
__any x,xxxx PM metamorphin (after Release)
__any x,xxxx PM dranster
__any x,xxxx PM BTCspace (after Release)
__any x,xxxx PM provenceday
__any x,xxxx PM bakedrice
__any x,xxxx PM mr.coinzy (Buy with Head only)
500000 0,00001 PM xxnwxf https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=947718
250000 0,000012 PM cryptoboy.architect https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=283681
10000 0,00002 PM miayama
__any 0.00002 PM whiskers75 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=56964
__any 0.00003 PM nightwishx https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=213418
__any 0.00003 PM acoco https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=928026
__any 0,00005 PM yangnazterp5021
__any 0,000053 PM marcus1986 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=226668
WTS
Code:
Amount Prize User
27586 0,00004545 PM MiningSev0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=378111
18881 0,000053 PM juras54 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=199703
17500 0,0002 PM HomoHenning
30000 0,0001 PM cryptoboy.architect https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=283681
50000 0,1 PM Evil-Knievel ?(ò_ó?)?
__any 0,1 PM Bgjjj2016 ?(ò_ó?)? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=804073
5 1 PM bobmarley650 ?(ò_ó?)? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=138323
__any x,xxxx PM dranster
WTS with verification in the ICO List
Code:
IcoNo Amount Prize User
241 57928,8268 x,xxxx PM cryptoheadd
286 34768,95853 x,xxxx PM cryptoheadd
Service: Post this template
WTB [Amount] [Prize] [USER] [Optional your Bitcointalk link]
WTS [Amount] [Prize] [USER] [Optional your Bitcointalk link]
[Prize = BTC/Amount]
More Infos here Elastic (XEL) Price Speculation https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/elastic-xel-price-speculation-added-to-bittrex-1589333
Do not buy any XEL from anyone! You'll get scammed. There is no way to buy XEL right now. Once again - do not buy any XEL, there is no guarantee that person who "sold" you XEL will not use private key before you.
Donation for Service : 1MYgcVK59yE8t4DatYqJQGxBLdgZtu61bA
My car is actually making the last breathes.
So I decided to sell one of my (two) Keys.
I know It's risky to you, because you couldn't be shure that the key isn't used before you can use it to claim the XEL, but if you wasn't to trust me, just write me a pm.
I'm selling this Adress:
1Mo2U2did2AFKX45sFg1tbK2z8K8LuHWyu
Escrow, is useless because I need the btc right now, otherwise I wouldn't sell.
I'm selling for 1.25 BTC.
So just write me if you are intrested a pm.
So I decided to sell one of my (two) Keys.
I know It's risky to you, because you couldn't be shure that the key isn't used before you can use it to claim the XEL, but if you wasn't to trust me, just write me a pm.
I'm selling this Adress:
1Mo2U2did2AFKX45sFg1tbK2z8K8LuHWyu
Escrow, is useless because I need the btc right now, otherwise I wouldn't sell.
I'm selling for 1.25 BTC.
So just write me if you are intrested a pm.
The only way this could work is if they allow changing of the genesis by proving you own the address.
My car is actually making the last breathes.
So I decided to sell one of my (two) Keys.
I know It's risky to you, because you couldn't be shure that the key isn't used before you can use it to claim the XEL, but if you want to trust me, just write me a pm.
I'm selling this Adress:
1Mo2U2did2AFKX45sFg1tbK2z8K8LuHWyu
Which contains 27586.05093 XEL - That's a price of 4545 Sat. each
Escrow, is useless because I need the btc right now, otherwise I wouldn't sell.
I'm selling for 1.25 BTC.
So just write me if you are intrested a pm.
So I decided to sell one of my (two) Keys.
I know It's risky to you, because you couldn't be shure that the key isn't used before you can use it to claim the XEL, but if you want to trust me, just write me a pm.
I'm selling this Adress:
1Mo2U2did2AFKX45sFg1tbK2z8K8LuHWyu
Which contains 27586.05093 XEL - That's a price of 4545 Sat. each
Escrow, is useless because I need the btc right now, otherwise I wouldn't sell.
I'm selling for 1.25 BTC.
So just write me if you are intrested a pm.
What strikes me as odd, is that people are far more willing to buy into something that has promises, v.s. something that is already working. It's the whole "speculation" thing. While there is hope things get overpriced. Once targets are delivered, it's when things dump, since there is nothing more to "hope for".
That's one great observation.
Maybe that's because people consider the working product to have reached his potential, so there is no huge room for growth anymore. With unfinished one however, things are not settled and there is a hope the current valuation is taking into account the 'unfinished' state, so speculators think it will raise more when the actual product is implemented.
In any case, people like something growing and unfinished. If XEL has no plans for growth announced after release, it'll have hard time to get as high as Golem climbed. Expectation is everything.
In general, some people (including me, honestly) value good expectations and feeling of anticipation more than the actual reached goals, even if that doesn't sound that logical...
I agree with your idea that valuating something is highly influenced by the promise of future growth. When it comes to expectations, they do not only stay with a working product or a feature set as part of future growth. There is major money in this field of computational power for hire which xel is tapping into, and thus growth would also be that of traction - actual people/organisations and such who are willing to use the system because they find it valuable for their purpose. The more real life people actually use the product the more value you will get for the product (that is real life value and not only vapor valuation). If xel is released as a solid solution and it receives reasonable pr (so interested parties get to know about it), it can gain good traction and that by itself will produce both interest/hype but more importantly, real life value (also monetary wise).
In light of current market prices I do believe we will see xel with a high valuation in any case if things proceed on track.
Most likely mainnet, wtb 0.00003btc
What strikes me as odd, is that people are far more willing to buy into something that has promises, v.s. something that is already working. It's the whole "speculation" thing. While there is hope things get overpriced. Once targets are delivered, it's when things dump, since there is nothing more to "hope for".
That's one great observation.
Maybe that's because people consider the working product to have reached his potential, so there is no huge room for growth anymore. With unfinished one however, things are not settled and there is a hope the current valuation is taking into account the 'unfinished' state, so speculators think it will raise more when the actual product is implemented.
In any case, people like something growing and unfinished. If XEL has no plans for growth announced after release, it'll have hard time to get as high as Golem climbed. Expectation is everything.
In general, some people (including me, honestly) value good expectations and feeling of anticipation more than the actual reached goals, even if that doesn't sound that logical...
Most of the time EK talked about leaving has been when he was overworked and people ordering him to work even faster. It's understandable to feel that way. I think as EK sees the fruit of his awesome work, he might continue this project taking it to much higher levels. I'm sure we could use more devs as EK always appreciates any good input, but he ( EK) being the main developer is something I see in horizon ( IMHO)
Golem with now a market cap of over $70 million and keeps going higher all based on speculations ( not an actually working coin). Imagine Elastic with its Supernodes and great working condition will beat $200 million market cap at no time. ( just an observation)
People are so high for XEL expectations?Haha, nope, not me. If Golem hits $100 million we will most likely hit $30-40 million. There is more to it than just functionality when it come to valuation of cryptos.
But hey, $40 million would be nuts.
Golem has a more appealing team structure / PR. But so far they are all talk. They made a lot of noise and got an ICO funded and are currently tradeable, without functionality (yet).
What strikes me as odd, is that people are far more willing to buy into something that has promises, v.s. something that is already working. It's the whole "speculation" thing. While there is hope things get overpriced. Once targets are delivered, it's when things dump, since there is nothing more to "hope for".
Markets... go figure. They have a mind of their own.
That said - XEL could definitely benefit from a longer term road map. And from what I know, EK doesn't plant to stick around much longer after it's delivered as a working product. Hopefully a team will emerge and we'll see XEL have a much brighter future, even after EK leaves.
Golem with now a market cap of over $70 million and keeps going higher all based on speculations ( not an actually working coin). Imagine Elastic with its Supernodes and great working condition will beat $200 million market cap at no time. ( just an observation)
People are so high for XEL expectations?Haha, nope, not me. If Golem hits $100 million we will most likely hit $30-40 million. There is more to it than just functionality when it come to valuation of cryptos.
But hey, $40 million would be nuts.
Golem with now a market cap of over $70 million and keeps going higher all based on speculations ( not an actually working coin). Imagine Elastic with its Supernodes and great working condition will beat $200 million market cap at no time. ( just an observation)
People are so high for XEL expectations?Haha, nope, not me. If Golem hits $100 million we will most likely hit $30-40 million. There is more to it than just functionality when it come to valuation of cryptos.
But hey, $40 million would be nuts.
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