Elastic (XEL) Price Speculation - #Added to Bittrex - page 8.

ttookk

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Quote from: LamboMoonYacht on June 23, 2017, 12:53:06 PM

(…)doing exactly what you plan to do(…)

I think you got it the other way around there, buddy.

Nobody bothers to look at golem, that's why nobody answers. We are not in competition with them.

Do they have a working product? XEL does. Admittedly, "working" as in proof-of-concept-state, but still.

Last time I checked, which is a few months ago, Golem and Elastic were designed for different usecases; Golem for things like rendering and so on, Elastic for things which are, for lack of a better term, bruteforceable. Maybe they updated their roadmap since then, I don't know and I don't care.

And with that, welcome to my ignore list.

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Quote from: aleksand on June 23, 2017, 12:32:55 PM

So many FUD and low-ballers here. Don't listen to newbie and jr.accounts. Remember that elastic donation period was at the beginning of the 2016 till augost 2016. Check registration of the person who could donate during this period. Don't wonna check this thread anymore cause of too much FUD from newbies about gridcoin(don't even know about it). Just one person made several account and talking about gridcoin. Be careful!

Calling valid criticism "FUD" makes you look desperate and insecure. It shows that you can't form a rational counter-argument. And the fact that you don't even know what GridCoin is (a well-known distributed computing project based on BOINC and already traded on the biggest exchanges) shows how woefully uninformed you are.

I've asked what makes XEL better than Golem and the response was nothing but outdated misinformation. That's not a good sign for XEL. When there's already a goliath in the market doing exactly what you plan to do and you can't explain why you're better or different, you have a problem. The fact that EK doesn't even seem to understand Golem is even worse. His canned response is still "But they're just doing Blender rendering!"

XEL doesn't even have a current white paper and people think it's worth $30m? That's just plain idiocy. They can't even put together a functional website -- most of their links just go straight to GitHub. No team page. No FAQ. Abandoned by the original dev. It looks like a bad joke.

This has all the hallmarks of a doomed project or a thinly veiled cash grab.

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So many FUD and low-ballers here. Don't listen to newbie and jr.accounts. Remember that elastic donation period was at the beginning of the 2016 till augost 2016. Check registration of the person who could donate during this period. Don't wonna check this thread anymore cause of too much FUD from newbies about gridcoin(don't even know about it). Just one person made several account and talking about gridcoin. Be careful!

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Quote from: LamboMoonYacht on June 23, 2017, 10:36:32 AM

The fact that you admit the original dev disappeared after distributing some of the original donations is extremely troubling.

It is! As troubling as the disappearance of Satoshi.

LamboMoonYacht

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Quote from: Karen98 on June 23, 2017, 10:23:51 AM

Quote from: LamboMoonYacht on June 23, 2017, 09:16:58 AM

Edit: Just read that XEL was basically abandoned by its original creator (Lannister), and someone named EK volunteered to take over but most likely won't stick around after launch. The more I read about XEL, the more ridiculous the current prices seem and the more I think it will plummet once it hits a real exchange.

Wait, is EK Evil-Knievel? Hahaha oh boy...

Stop trolling! Lannister, the original creator mentioned health problems before disappering and spread some of the original donations to other devs that have joined his project. After Lannister disappeared the other devs continued the development for a long time for free. Only recently have the devs received some donations from the community, including a alrge 500k XEL donation from one user. They are still working hard on the project, for many hours each day.

Trolling? I'm just repeating what I've read in the XEL threads on these forums.

Stop referring to all criticism as "trolling" and "FUD", it only makes you look desperate.

The fact that you admit the original dev disappeared after distributing some of the original donations is extremely troubling.

Sharky444

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It was on medium.

https://medium.com/@WhalePanda/consensus-2017-recap-36e91b91aa9a

WhalePanda:

Take Golem for example: $400 million+ marketcap and not even a properly working product, just because it’s on Ethereum. Elastic for example is a similar project, they raised 700+ BTC in donations but they basically have a superior working product close to launch.

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Quote from: LamboMoonYacht on June 23, 2017, 09:16:58 AM

Edit: Just read that XEL was basically abandoned by its original creator (Lannister), and someone named EK volunteered to take over but most likely won't stick around after launch. The more I read about XEL, the more ridiculous the current prices seem and the more I think it will plummet once it hits a real exchange.

Wait, is EK Evil-Knievel? Hahaha oh boy...

Stop trolling! Lannister, the original creator mentioned health problems before disappering and spread some of the original donations to other devs that have joined his project. After Lannister disappeared the other devs continued the development for a long time for free. Only recently have the devs received some donations from the community, including a alrge 500k XEL donation from one user. They are still working hard on the project, for many hours each day.

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Quote from: LamboMoonYacht on June 23, 2017, 09:16:58 AM

I also noticed PandaWhale mentioned XEL on Twitter, but in the same Tweet he said it may already be overvalued.

This is FUD. PandaWhale said that some coins are overvalued, but not specifically XEL.

Actually he tweeted once that Golem market cap is a joke compared to XEL, as XEL is an almost completed product vs the wishful thinking of GOLEM.

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Quote from: bobmarley650 on June 23, 2017, 09:04:41 AM

Quote from: LamboMoonYacht on June 23, 2017, 08:32:16 AM

Quote from: ltcgearscammed on June 23, 2017, 07:36:48 AM

Yesterday when I offered around 16k sats per XEL I got 6 offers and due to that I raised it to 18k and most where happy to do the trade. Today I am seeing quite a few people wanting to buy around 20k.

I am selling 5-8k as I want to keep a few XEL for myself. I am selling at 22k sats each. PM if interested.

I think below 20k XEL is undervalued but above 25k is overvalued. That's why I am going with a price in between.

I was about to transfer some BTC to the Heat exchange and put in an order around that price, but I'm just afraid this project might've gotten over-hyped by the little Bitcointalk OTC bubble. 25k would put the valuation at $41m, which means it would leapfrog GridCoin without being on a single big exchange...

I'm afraid once it gets listed on a bigger exchange like Bittrex or Polo people might shy away from that valuation and the price could dip to 5k-10k.

IIRC, these prices are already 40x the ICO price.

I'm not into this tech stuff, but most of the people think that XEL is more advanced platform than Golem, that's why most of the buyers and the twitter accounts with lots of followers are buiyng and talking about it.

People holding XEL think XEL is more advanced than Golem. The reality is that Golem is meant to do everything. It will support custom applications just like XEL, but all the delusional people in this thread seem to think only XEL can do that.

I also noticed PandaWhale mentioned XEL on Twitter, but in the same Tweet he said it may already be overvalued.

Golem seems to be aiming for a much broader market, and it took them years just to break $10m valuation. People are already selling XEL at $40m+ valuation.

Edit: Just read that XEL was basically abandoned by its original creator (Lannister), and someone named EK volunteered to take over but most likely won't stick around after launch. The more I read about XEL, the more ridiculous the current prices seem and the more I think it will plummet once it hits a real exchange.

Wait, is EK Evil-Knievel? Hahaha oh boy...

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Quote from: LamboMoonYacht on June 23, 2017, 08:32:16 AM

Quote from: ltcgearscammed on June 23, 2017, 07:36:48 AM

Yesterday when I offered around 16k sats per XEL I got 6 offers and due to that I raised it to 18k and most where happy to do the trade. Today I am seeing quite a few people wanting to buy around 20k.

I am selling 5-8k as I want to keep a few XEL for myself. I am selling at 22k sats each. PM if interested.

I think below 20k XEL is undervalued but above 25k is overvalued. That's why I am going with a price in between.

I was about to transfer some BTC to the Heat exchange and put in an order around that price, but I'm just afraid this project might've gotten over-hyped by the little Bitcointalk OTC bubble. 25k would put the valuation at $41m, which means it would leapfrog GridCoin without being on a single big exchange...

I'm afraid once it gets listed on a bigger exchange like Bittrex or Polo people might shy away from that valuation and the price could dip to 5k-10k.

IIRC, these prices are already 40x the ICO price.

I'm not into this tech stuff, but most of the people think that XEL is more advanced platform than Golem, that's why most of the buyers and the twitter accounts with lots of followers are buiyng and talking about it.

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Ditto!

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Quote from: ltcgearscammed on June 23, 2017, 07:36:48 AM

Yesterday when I offered around 16k sats per XEL I got 6 offers and due to that I raised it to 18k and most where happy to do the trade. Today I am seeing quite a few people wanting to buy around 20k.

I am selling 5-8k as I want to keep a few XEL for myself. I am selling at 22k sats each. PM if interested.

I think below 20k XEL is undervalued but above 25k is overvalued. That's why I am going with a price in between.

I was about to transfer some BTC to the Heat exchange and put in an order around that price, but I'm just afraid this project might've gotten over-hyped by the little Bitcointalk OTC bubble. 25k would put the valuation at $41m, which means it would leapfrog GridCoin without being on a single big exchange...

I'm afraid once it gets listed on a bigger exchange like Bittrex or Polo people might shy away from that valuation and the price could dip to 5k-10k.

IIRC, these prices are already 40x the ICO price.

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Quote from: silverkamote on June 22, 2017, 11:41:10 PM

Keep in mind that those other projects (i.e. Golem, SONM, etc) are targeting use cases that are easily marketable (rendering video, BOINC, etc). XEL is very low level compared to that...it will require the author to code a job in ElasticPL...this is not an easy task.So while the purpose of XEL is great, it's does not nearly have the mass appeal as those other coins. So I just caution folks tobe realistic...XEL is nothing like the other projects in this area.

You forgot to add a reference to your quote from coralreefer.

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Keep in mind that those other projects (i.e. Golem, SONM, etc) are targeting use cases that are easily marketable (rendering video, BOINC, etc). XEL is very low level compared to that...it will require the author to code a job in ElasticPL...this is not an easy task.So while the purpose of XEL is great, it's does not nearly have the mass appeal as those other coins. So I just caution folks tobe realistic...XEL is nothing like the other projects in this area.

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Quote from: xxxgoodgirls on June 22, 2017, 04:15:15 PM

Given that a good amount of coins will not be redeemed (http://elasticexplorer.org/about/) and looking at other altcoin market capitalizations a fair initial price for XEL should be around 2.1$ in my opinion (around 78k satoshi).

That would put XEL well over $100m market cap. Seems pretty generous considering GridCoin is still below $30m, and many people say Grid is more practical than Golem. How Golem reached $500m+ is beyond me... AFAIK they don't even have a working product yet. The only render test I heard of returned pretty unimpressive results.

The XEL spread on Heatwallet is pretty interesting right now. Bids around .00017 and Asks at .00025.

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Hello, i want to buy 0.5 BTC of XEL, how I cant post a trade?

Thanks.

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Quote from: xxxgoodgirls on June 22, 2017, 04:15:15 PM

Given that a good amount of coins will not be redeemed (http://elasticexplorer.org/about/) and looking at other altcoin market capitalizations a fair initial price for XEL should be around 2.1$ in my opinion (around 78k satoshi).

Even 2$ is nothing for this project. It´s already working , better than golem and co , and with real life usage!

edit: 5$ is more than reachable first few months

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Given that a good amount of coins will not be redeemed (http://elasticexplorer.org/about/) and looking at other altcoin market capitalizations a fair initial price for XEL should be around 2.1$ in my opinion (around 78k satoshi).

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100000	40000		PM recursive_			https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1036117
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50000	120000		PM Limx Dev			https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=389271 Escrow only Yassin
8238	170000		PM cryptoburrito		https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1031834
70000 	200000		PM josegines			https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=88798
100000	500000 		PM 1cent			https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1016538 unvoid or byralier for escrow
26000	500000		PM Bgjjj2016			https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=804073
50000	0,1 BTC		PM Evil-Knievel 	
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 58657	__any		PM Gomeler			https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35249
__any	__any		PM dranster
92696	__any		PM cryptoheadd

You can add your order with this template:

WTB Amount Prize PM USER Optional your Bitcointalk link
18881 4766 PM juras54 https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/juras54-199703
WTS Amount Prize PM USER Optional your Bitcointalk link

[Prize = SAT] Please only with SAT

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