Topic: Electric car - do you like it? - page 5. (Read 2157 times)
I don't own one, so I'm not completely sure what the downsides of owning an electric car would be, but they seem pretty cool to me.
Buying an Electric Car is a good option for a family in the market for a second car, but for the primary vehicle it's worth looking at the option of a hybrid. Apart from this, Electric cars have some disadvantages, such as: Electricity generated by fossil energy can result in more pollution than using gasoline, though the higher efficiency of EVs mitigates some of this effect.
I like electric cars and I wish to have one the future.
Electric cars are not comon and those company manufacturing them have a lot of works to do to break and dominate the market.
Electric cars are not comon and those company manufacturing them have a lot of works to do to break and dominate the market.
Same for me, electric cars are the future and we should all drive one eventually.
My dream would be to have a new Tesla car.
I am mostly just driving short range within the city, an electric car would be perfect for that
Not common YET, but will surpass all the ICE offerings, eventually people will not want the inconvenience of burning fossil fuels anymore. Who else is still bothering with film camera? Same thing.
The part of Elon's master plan, to push humanity towards electric cars, has been working great. Tesla made all the others look seriously into EV, and it appears critical mass has been achieved. Now all the big traditional brands are looking into it.
With all these things in motion, battery technology should improve as well. In fact these battery are also being pushed by Tesla to replace peak plants in electricity grids worldwide. You could even make some money from selling your excess accumulated energy back to the grid.
The part of Elon's master plan, to push humanity towards electric cars, has been working great. Tesla made all the others look seriously into EV, and it appears critical mass has been achieved. Now all the big traditional brands are looking into it.
With all these things in motion, battery technology should improve as well. In fact these battery are also being pushed by Tesla to replace peak plants in electricity grids worldwide. You could even make some money from selling your excess accumulated energy back to the grid.
I like electric cars and I wish to have one the future.
Electric cars are not comon and those company manufacturing them have a lot of works to do to break and dominate the market.
Electric cars are not comon and those company manufacturing them have a lot of works to do to break and dominate the market.
Tesla's seem like they are going to be cool, but honestly dont understand all the hype around it. They are going to be the future but at this time id honestly just stick with normal, petrol cars that seems like the better opinion IMO.
If you are sure about that they are going to be the future then why are you waiting still? Are you old fashioned guy!Cost of fuel will be a lot less if you are using electric vehicle but in many countries there are not enough charging stations available so long trips are not possible yet there.
i like tesla so much...
As opposed to burn fossil fuel with 20% efficiency?
I don't know in which part of the world you live, but here is small quotation from Wikipedia(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_efficiency):
" Low speed diesel engine like the MAN S80ME-C7 have achieved an overall energy conversion efficiency of 54.4%, which is the highest conversion of fuel into power by any single-cycle internal or external combustion engine.[3][4][5] Engines in large diesel trucks, buses, and newer diesel cars can achieve peak efficiencies around 45%"
And, its not like people aren't consuming electricity anyway, even without cars all you said has occurred, so in addition you have fuel burning next to you. At the very least, moving it to the power plants would help the local environment in MANY places (think Beijin).
Yes, we were shitting in our living rooms, and now we'll start shitting in the lobby - not much of a progress IMHO.
Regarding solar panels, I ran on interesting article: https://www.onlynaturalenergy.com/the-true-carbon-footprint-of-photovoltaic-energy/
The key quote from article is:
"As pointed out by the American National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL), in addition to direct emissions, we must consider renewable technologies from the point of view of the entire lifecycle. "
Battery powered car is not bad idea per se; but the way of production of energy required to charge that battery must be improved. If we abandon fossil fuels in cars, the need for electric energy will surge...
I don't like electric cars, because they are NOT as green as most people think. They run on batteries, but how do you produce electric power to charge that battery? You have to burn coal or use nuclear fuel or destroy a river if you want to construct hydro power Dam. So called "green" energy sources (wind, solar) are also not so green - the production of solar panels is very "dirty", and can somebody enlighten me how to ecologically dispose huge polyester laminate wind turbine blades?
Humankind must develop new ways of producing really green electrical energy (Thorium based nuclear reactor maybe?) first!
Humankind must develop new ways of producing really green electrical energy (Thorium based nuclear reactor maybe?) first!
As opposed to burn fossil fuel with 20% efficiency? Well i don't mind if everyone used bicycles, and only occasionally electric cars but nothing else. Still next to ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) there is a TON of difference.
And, its not like people aren't consuming electricity anyway, even without cars all you said has occurred, so in addition you have fuel burning next to you. At the very least, moving it to the power plants would help the local environment in MANY places (think Beijin).
But yeah you can go vegan eco, please by all means use a bicycle and tell others to do so.
Mind you: solar panels last decades. Have you seen an oil refinery? You should. Its like comparing the ICE vs the electric motor inside a car... Oh and fossil fuel isn't eternal.
Funny that you bring the fast breeder while complaining about hydro... Might as well talk about fusion. Unfortunately you still need a way to put that power in the vehicle, you are not getting any thorium reactors in a car even tho they designed one for a plane in the 60ies. Yes, you are talking decades old technologies, and reactors do exist, but small, so "first" isn't. I think even India has some.
I wish everyone could drive these vehicles. Unfortunately, not every station is equipped with the charges for electric cars. Moreover, in Ukraine, only Uber offers service with electric cars. I mean the moment, when you can choose what kind of car to choose - electric cars appears in the other services, too, but not so often.
In the next 5 years you can see more electric cars than now and by 2030 every automobile company will start producing their electric vehicles.So this is the beginning of electric car era.
I wish everyone could drive these vehicles. Unfortunately, not every station is equipped with the charges for electric cars. Moreover, in Ukraine, only Uber offers service with electric cars. I mean the moment, when you can choose what kind of car to choose - electric cars appears in the other services, too, but not so often.
@jrrsparkles
I don't say anything like that; what I'm saying is that there are more advanced and greener alternatives in electric energy production (thorium based nuclear power plants, using stirling engine instead of photovoltaic cells for solar energy exploit, ...). I believe we have to push that kind of technology.
Regarding alternative to electric cars - hydrogen powered cars can be a good alternative.
About thorium, it could be less harm that uranium and plutonium nuclear power plant but as far as wikipedia there is no operational thorium nuclear plant exists in the world due to the establishment costs and lot other things.I don't say anything like that; what I'm saying is that there are more advanced and greener alternatives in electric energy production (thorium based nuclear power plants, using stirling engine instead of photovoltaic cells for solar energy exploit, ...). I believe we have to push that kind of technology.
Regarding alternative to electric cars - hydrogen powered cars can be a good alternative.
Hydrogen powered motors, that's good alternative and many individuals proved it is possible to power a motor with natural water but still I don't know why it is not approved by governments
Electric cars are our future. They are becoming better every day. Do you like electric car, do you use one (which one)?
My dream Car and Bike,Hope sooner i will have 1.I still don't understand whether an electric car in fuel costs is cheaper than a car that runs on oil?
Electric cars don't use fuel ,it is electric battery.and this is low cost compared to Oil/fuel cars and this is environmental friendly thats the most important thing that this cars and motors offer.
I still don't understand whether an electric car in fuel costs is cheaper than a car that runs on oil?
Charging up an electric car is so much cheaper than for an fuel based car. Plus you might even get the electricty for free. If you own a Tesla you get free access to the free unlimited super chargers all around. Sure you have to pay that cost indirectly when buying the car but atleast you don't have to pay later down the road. And Oil could become much more expensive in the long run. Electricity cost are not expected to rise so much.
I drove once in a Tesla as a passenger and the cars are just grat, super quiet, so stylish and the big screen in the middle is awesome. If I had the money I would go for a new Tesla.
@jrrsparkles
I don't say anything like that; what I'm saying is that there are more advanced and greener alternatives in electric energy production (thorium based nuclear power plants, using stirling engine instead of photovoltaic cells for solar energy exploit, ...). I believe we have to push that kind of technology.
Regarding alternative to electric cars - hydrogen powered cars can be a good alternative.
I don't say anything like that; what I'm saying is that there are more advanced and greener alternatives in electric energy production (thorium based nuclear power plants, using stirling engine instead of photovoltaic cells for solar energy exploit, ...). I believe we have to push that kind of technology.
Regarding alternative to electric cars - hydrogen powered cars can be a good alternative.
I still don't understand whether an electric car in fuel costs is cheaper than a car that runs on oil?
My statement was: "So called "green" energy sources (wind, solar) are also not so green". My intention was to point out that all this green hype has a lot of flaws and shortcomings.
Hydro power dams (I'm talking about the large ones) - in order to build and run it you have to dig a large reservoir which distrupts river flow, and that can have a nasty consequences:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8525233/The-dam-start-war-Egypt-Ethiopia.html.
Wind turbines - blades for that things are huge and made of glass reinforced polyester resin or similar non-recyclable material. After 20 years of work you have to dispose those huge blades somehow. They also tend to be noisy, and due to harsh conditions they often work in - require a lot of maintenance crew intervention.
Solar panels - a small quote from provided link:
"Solar panels generate 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear power plants. They also contain lead, cadmium, and other toxic (even carcinogenic) chemicals that cannot be removed without breaking apart the entire panel. Worse, rainwater can wash many of these toxics out of the fragments of solar modules over time."
https://www.cfact.org/2019/09/15/the-solar-panel-toxic-waste-problem/
Also bear in mind that backbone of every good power grid are thermal power stations (be it nuclear or coal or gas) and large hydro power dams. Wind and solar can't give you power when you need it - they produce power when there is wind or sunshine.
All in all I just wish to stress that there is also the other side of the "green fairytale" story.
So you are saying we don't have to produce electricity anymore? Apart from the vehicle we need electricity for everyday works and in next 20 years or more there will no more natural fuels will be available so how can we use vehicles by that time?Hydro power dams (I'm talking about the large ones) - in order to build and run it you have to dig a large reservoir which distrupts river flow, and that can have a nasty consequences:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8525233/The-dam-start-war-Egypt-Ethiopia.html.
Wind turbines - blades for that things are huge and made of glass reinforced polyester resin or similar non-recyclable material. After 20 years of work you have to dispose those huge blades somehow. They also tend to be noisy, and due to harsh conditions they often work in - require a lot of maintenance crew intervention.
Solar panels - a small quote from provided link:
"Solar panels generate 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear power plants. They also contain lead, cadmium, and other toxic (even carcinogenic) chemicals that cannot be removed without breaking apart the entire panel. Worse, rainwater can wash many of these toxics out of the fragments of solar modules over time."
https://www.cfact.org/2019/09/15/the-solar-panel-toxic-waste-problem/
Also bear in mind that backbone of every good power grid are thermal power stations (be it nuclear or coal or gas) and large hydro power dams. Wind and solar can't give you power when you need it - they produce power when there is wind or sunshine.
All in all I just wish to stress that there is also the other side of the "green fairytale" story.
Any better alternative than electric cars?
I lile hybrid cars the better, my favorite one is BMW i8, hope I can get one of that soon!
I'm looking forward to the time when most of the cars will be electric cars. Then I will change my car for an electric one. Because at the moment there are no conditions for this.
My statement was: "So called "green" energy sources (wind, solar) are also not so green". My intention was to point out that all this green hype has a lot of flaws and shortcomings.
Hydro power dams (I'm talking about the large ones) - in order to build and run it you have to dig a large reservoir which distrupts river flow, and that can have a nasty consequences:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8525233/The-dam-start-war-Egypt-Ethiopia.html.
Wind turbines - blades for that things are huge and made of glass reinforced polyester resin or similar non-recyclable material. After 20 years of work you have to dispose those huge blades somehow. They also tend to be noisy, and due to harsh conditions they often work in - require a lot of maintenance crew intervention.
Solar panels - a small quote from provided link:
"Solar panels generate 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear power plants. They also contain lead, cadmium, and other toxic (even carcinogenic) chemicals that cannot be removed without breaking apart the entire panel. Worse, rainwater can wash many of these toxics out of the fragments of solar modules over time."
https://www.cfact.org/2019/09/15/the-solar-panel-toxic-waste-problem/
Also bear in mind that backbone of every good power grid are thermal power stations (be it nuclear or coal or gas) and large hydro power dams. Wind and solar can't give you power when you need it - they produce power when there is wind or sunshine.
All in all I just wish to stress that there is also the other side of the "green fairytale" story.
Hydro power dams (I'm talking about the large ones) - in order to build and run it you have to dig a large reservoir which distrupts river flow, and that can have a nasty consequences:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8525233/The-dam-start-war-Egypt-Ethiopia.html.
Wind turbines - blades for that things are huge and made of glass reinforced polyester resin or similar non-recyclable material. After 20 years of work you have to dispose those huge blades somehow. They also tend to be noisy, and due to harsh conditions they often work in - require a lot of maintenance crew intervention.
Solar panels - a small quote from provided link:
"Solar panels generate 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear power plants. They also contain lead, cadmium, and other toxic (even carcinogenic) chemicals that cannot be removed without breaking apart the entire panel. Worse, rainwater can wash many of these toxics out of the fragments of solar modules over time."
https://www.cfact.org/2019/09/15/the-solar-panel-toxic-waste-problem/
Also bear in mind that backbone of every good power grid are thermal power stations (be it nuclear or coal or gas) and large hydro power dams. Wind and solar can't give you power when you need it - they produce power when there is wind or sunshine.
All in all I just wish to stress that there is also the other side of the "green fairytale" story.
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