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Yeah with everyone with blinder listening to the propaganda of his leader against the other side who are evil monster who sacrifice baby and kill everyone else lol

No more like everyone in each side agreeing on an ideal and ideas that can not whatsoever coexist with the ideals and ideas of the opposite side.

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His wife's son is older than him. Isn't that a bit weird to you guys? Or is that a common situation in France?

Indeed, usually his girlfriend's mother is younger than him (president) Smiley
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they will continue to use pounds as their official currency

Am i so uninformed? France national currency is Euro, you cannot buy something using pounds in France, or it is possible without any exchange?
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His wife's son is older than him. Isn't that a bit weird to you guys? Or is that a common situation in France?

I don't see any difference between Macron and Lepen anyway. Both are rightist faschists. Lepen is just a bit more hardcore. I guess you can't expect anything else from them, we are talking about France in the end.  Grin

You're goddamn right.
I can't stand our media saying that "right wing lost the election"... Right is already at power! There is nothing but liberals and rightist as candidates now, all the socialists and marxists haven't gone further than first turn Cry


But still there is a slight hope. "France Insoumise" had nearly 20% of votes this time. That's still too low but we might manage to finally make a democratic revolution next time.
Maybe
I hope ^^

There are 20% of melanchon and 20% of Lepen, and large % of non voters or people who are not convinced by macron either Wink

Not sure how this is going to end but clearly most people seem fed up with current politics lol

Yeah it was like 20% of people who didn't vote?
That sure makes quite lot of people.

I don't see how people could be anything but fed up. We're being enslaved every day a bit more by international companies. They got control over pretty much everything and they're just using corrupted assholes like Lepen to make us believe that the "real danger is Islam and immigration"

Sure, what's more dangerous? Free international companies or Islamic terrorism? If you answered terrorism please look at the number of deaths due to working conditions and the amount of deaths due to terrorist attacks in developped countries.
They want to make us believe the real problem are people "abusing social system". If you believe that just look at the cost of those abuses (a few dozens millions) and the cost of fiscal evasion (a few billions) and think again

Always the same shit...

The count of non voting is always obfuscated between white vote, null vote, and non voters, and it's always kept a bit obscure anyway, but they are expecting very high amount close to 40% for 2nd round Smiley

Islamic terrorist is just the ugly hidden face of capitalist economy Wink All terrorists group are created by cia and the network are actually very close to let say gw bush, or all the buisness connection with Islamic regimes either in usa or France. . And in the end terrorism is the monster they created in their cold war plot.

Macron want to rise minimum social help to 750e no ? He seem to be ok with social help and minimum, it's hard to see how he will manage to concile everything but maybe he has a plan lol
When politicians go to the polls they always promise more than you can do. Only after they come to power, they realize that their promises are not feasible. Politicians such as Le pen initially promising something that will not do. Their goal is power and nothing more.

If he does increase the minimum social help, we will see -again- more and more peoples abusing of the system. Some peoples gain only 950€ per month for working 151h, why would they sacrifice all that time for just 200€ ?
The entire social system should be revisited to rework the gap between the workers and no-workers.
But Macron don't really care, he is not for the peoples, he is for the banks & big companies.
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His wife's son is older than him. Isn't that a bit weird to you guys? Or is that a common situation in France?

I don't see any difference between Macron and Lepen anyway. Both are rightist faschists. Lepen is just a bit more hardcore. I guess you can't expect anything else from them, we are talking about France in the end.  Grin

You're goddamn right.
I can't stand our media saying that "right wing lost the election"... Right is already at power! There is nothing but liberals and rightist as candidates now, all the socialists and marxists haven't gone further than first turn Cry


But still there is a slight hope. "France Insoumise" had nearly 20% of votes this time. That's still too low but we might manage to finally make a democratic revolution next time.
Maybe
I hope ^^

There are 20% of melanchon and 20% of Lepen, and large % of non voters or people who are not convinced by macron either Wink

Not sure how this is going to end but clearly most people seem fed up with current politics lol

Yeah it was like 20% of people who didn't vote?
That sure makes quite lot of people.

I don't see how people could be anything but fed up. We're being enslaved every day a bit more by international companies. They got control over pretty much everything and they're just using corrupted assholes like Lepen to make us believe that the "real danger is Islam and immigration"

Sure, what's more dangerous? Free international companies or Islamic terrorism? If you answered terrorism please look at the number of deaths due to working conditions and the amount of deaths due to terrorist attacks in developped countries.
They want to make us believe the real problem are people "abusing social system". If you believe that just look at the cost of those abuses (a few dozens millions) and the cost of fiscal evasion (a few billions) and think again

Always the same shit...

The count of non voting is always obfuscated between white vote, null vote, and non voters, and it's always kept a bit obscure anyway, but they are expecting very high amount close to 40% for 2nd round Smiley

Islamic terrorist is just the ugly hidden face of capitalist economy Wink All terrorists group are created by cia and the network are actually very close to let say gw bush, or all the buisness connection with Islamic regimes either in usa or France. . And in the end terrorism is the monster they created in their cold war plot.

Macron want to rise minimum social help to 750e no ? He seem to be ok with social help and minimum, it's hard to see how he will manage to concile everything but maybe he has a plan lol
When politicians go to the polls they always promise more than you can do. Only after they come to power, they realize that their promises are not feasible. Politicians such as Le pen initially promising something that will not do. Their goal is power and nothing more.
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They're tactical

I believe lot of energy in france is wasted with useless political battles and everyone digging his trench against the other .. for me it's the main problem in france, rather than anything else, and I see macron potentially as a good thing in this regard.

If everyone in france could really collaborate and trust each other on real economic objective instead of wasting all this energy with useless fear and defiance , it would solve all the pb lol soon you can call the french beavers with all those barrage they build against each others lol

I have to disagree here, for a quite simple reason: we don't have the same problems

You can't collaborate with someone if you don't have the same objective!

The people have an objective: to build a better country for the future
The politicians have another objective: to get the economy even more oppened and biased for big companies, so they can get a big cut from those groups

How do you want us to cooperate?

If they keep fighting each others keeping each on their side of trench afraid of the other without wanting to make step over their trench, nothing can work at all...

Oh yeah it can and it will. The fact is that we have to get out of the trench, for sure.
We will have no choice.

It will not be for cooperation though, probably in order to kill everyone in the other trenches.

Yeah with everyone with blinder listening to the propaganda of his leader against the other side who are evil monster who sacrifice baby and kill everyone else lol
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I believe lot of energy in france is wasted with useless political battles and everyone digging his trench against the other .. for me it's the main problem in france, rather than anything else, and I see macron potentially as a good thing in this regard.

If everyone in france could really collaborate and trust each other on real economic objective instead of wasting all this energy with useless fear and defiance , it would solve all the pb lol soon you can call the french beavers with all those barrage they build against each others lol

I have to disagree here, for a quite simple reason: we don't have the same problems

You can't collaborate with someone if you don't have the same objective!

The people have an objective: to build a better country for the future
The politicians have another objective: to get the economy even more oppened and biased for big companies, so they can get a big cut from those groups

How do you want us to cooperate?

If they keep fighting each others keeping each on their side of trench afraid of the other without wanting to make step over their trench, nothing can work at all...

Oh yeah it can and it will. The fact is that we have to get out of the trench, for sure.
We will have no choice.

It will not be for cooperation though, probably in order to kill everyone in the other trenches.
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They're tactical

I believe lot of energy in france is wasted with useless political battles and everyone digging his trench against the other .. for me it's the main problem in france, rather than anything else, and I see macron potentially as a good thing in this regard.

If everyone in france could really collaborate and trust each other on real economic objective instead of wasting all this energy with useless fear and defiance , it would solve all the pb lol soon you can call the french beavers with all those barrage they build against each others lol

I have to disagree here, for a quite simple reason: we don't have the same problems

You can't collaborate with someone if you don't have the same objective!

The people have an objective: to build a better country for the future
The politicians have another objective: to get the economy even more oppened and biased for big companies, so they can get a big cut from those groups

How do you want us to cooperate?

If they keep fighting each others keeping each on their side of trench afraid of the other without wanting to make step over their trench, nothing can work at all...

The poor or "people" are always angels who think only about common good, and the other are the devil who want to enslave everyone else, it's a bit simplistic too ... 

Without cooperation nobody get anywhere and stay in his trench spending all his energy pesting on the other side as only finality digging a deeper trench. .
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I believe lot of energy in france is wasted with useless political battles and everyone digging his trench against the other .. for me it's the main problem in france, rather than anything else, and I see macron potentially as a good thing in this regard.

If everyone in france could really collaborate and trust each other on real economic objective instead of wasting all this energy with useless fear and defiance , it would solve all the pb lol soon you can call the french beavers with all those barrage they build against each others lol

I have to disagree here, for a quite simple reason: we don't have the same problems

You can't collaborate with someone if you don't have the same objective!

The people have an objective: to build a better country for the future
The politicians have another objective: to get the economy even more oppened and biased for big companies, so they can get a big cut from those groups

How do you want us to cooperate?
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They're tactical
Yeah it was like 20% of people who didn't vote?
That sure makes quite lot of people.

I don't see how people could be anything but fed up. We're being enslaved every day a bit more by international companies. They got control over pretty much everything and they're just using corrupted assholes like Lepen to make us believe that the "real danger is Islam and immigration"

Sure, what's more dangerous? Free international companies or Islamic terrorism? If you answered terrorism please look at the number of deaths due to working conditions and the amount of deaths due to terrorist attacks in developped countries.
They want to make us believe the real problem are people "abusing social system". If you believe that just look at the cost of those abuses (a few dozens millions) and the cost of fiscal evasion (a few billions) and think again

Always the same shit...

The count of non voting is always obfuscated between white vote, null vote, and non voters, and it's always kept a bit obscure anyway, but they are expecting very high amount close to 40% for 2nd round Smiley

Islamic terrorist is just the ugly hidden face of capitalist economy Wink All terrorists group are created by cia and the network are actually very close to let say gw bush, or all the buisness connection with Islamic regimes either in usa or France. . And in the end terrorism is the monster they created in their cold war plot.

Macron want to rise minimum social help to 750e no ? He seem to be ok with social help and minimum, it's hard to see how he will manage to concile everything but maybe he has a plan lol

Agreed on the the first part. Capitalism alone can't do shit, you got to weaken it with something otherwise it just eats everything until it explodes.

Yeah the guys wants to rise minimum social help to 750e for EVERYONE (including very rich people xD)
He also wants to lower all taxes (companies and people), to delete taxation on high fortunes and to rise every budget (army, police, education...).
We just don't know how he lowers every taxe and rise every budget and social help xD

Maybe because what he says is bulshit and he know he won't do it.

I believe lot of energy in france is wasted with useless political battles and everyone digging his trench against the other .. for me it's the main problem in france, rather than anything else, and I see macron potentially as a good thing in this regard.

If everyone in france could really collaborate and trust each other on real economic objective instead of wasting all this energy with useless fear and defiance , it would solve all the pb lol soon you can call the french beavers with all those barrage they build against each others lol
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Yeah it was like 20% of people who didn't vote?
That sure makes quite lot of people.

I don't see how people could be anything but fed up. We're being enslaved every day a bit more by international companies. They got control over pretty much everything and they're just using corrupted assholes like Lepen to make us believe that the "real danger is Islam and immigration"

Sure, what's more dangerous? Free international companies or Islamic terrorism? If you answered terrorism please look at the number of deaths due to working conditions and the amount of deaths due to terrorist attacks in developped countries.
They want to make us believe the real problem are people "abusing social system". If you believe that just look at the cost of those abuses (a few dozens millions) and the cost of fiscal evasion (a few billions) and think again

Always the same shit...

The count of non voting is always obfuscated between white vote, null vote, and non voters, and it's always kept a bit obscure anyway, but they are expecting very high amount close to 40% for 2nd round Smiley

Islamic terrorist is just the ugly hidden face of capitalist economy Wink All terrorists group are created by cia and the network are actually very close to let say gw bush, or all the buisness connection with Islamic regimes either in usa or France. . And in the end terrorism is the monster they created in their cold war plot.

Macron want to rise minimum social help to 750e no ? He seem to be ok with social help and minimum, it's hard to see how he will manage to concile everything but maybe he has a plan lol

Agreed on the the first part. Capitalism alone can't do shit, you got to weaken it with something otherwise it just eats everything until it explodes.

Yeah the guys wants to rise minimum social help to 750e for EVERYONE (including very rich people xD)
He also wants to lower all taxes (companies and people), to delete taxation on high fortunes and to rise every budget (army, police, education...).
We just don't know how he lowers every taxe and rise every budget and social help xD

Maybe because what he says is bulshit and he know he won't do it.
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They're tactical
His wife's son is older than him. Isn't that a bit weird to you guys? Or is that a common situation in France?

I don't see any difference between Macron and Lepen anyway. Both are rightist faschists. Lepen is just a bit more hardcore. I guess you can't expect anything else from them, we are talking about France in the end.  Grin

You're goddamn right.
I can't stand our media saying that "right wing lost the election"... Right is already at power! There is nothing but liberals and rightist as candidates now, all the socialists and marxists haven't gone further than first turn Cry


But still there is a slight hope. "France Insoumise" had nearly 20% of votes this time. That's still too low but we might manage to finally make a democratic revolution next time.
Maybe
I hope ^^

There are 20% of melanchon and 20% of Lepen, and large % of non voters or people who are not convinced by macron either Wink

Not sure how this is going to end but clearly most people seem fed up with current politics lol

Yeah it was like 20% of people who didn't vote?
That sure makes quite lot of people.

I don't see how people could be anything but fed up. We're being enslaved every day a bit more by international companies. They got control over pretty much everything and they're just using corrupted assholes like Lepen to make us believe that the "real danger is Islam and immigration"

Sure, what's more dangerous? Free international companies or Islamic terrorism? If you answered terrorism please look at the number of deaths due to working conditions and the amount of deaths due to terrorist attacks in developped countries.
They want to make us believe the real problem are people "abusing social system". If you believe that just look at the cost of those abuses (a few dozens millions) and the cost of fiscal evasion (a few billions) and think again

Always the same shit...

The count of non voting is always obfuscated between white vote, null vote, and non voters, and it's always kept a bit obscure anyway, but they are expecting very high amount close to 40% for 2nd round Smiley

Islamic terrorist is just the ugly hidden face of capitalist economy Wink All terrorists group are created by cia and the network are actually very close to let say gw bush, or all the buisness connection with Islamic regimes either in usa or France. . And in the end terrorism is the monster they created in their cold war plot.

Macron want to rise minimum social help to 750e no ? He seem to be ok with social help and minimum, it's hard to see how he will manage to concile everything but maybe he has a plan lol
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His wife's son is older than him. Isn't that a bit weird to you guys? Or is that a common situation in France?

I don't see any difference between Macron and Lepen anyway. Both are rightist faschists. Lepen is just a bit more hardcore. I guess you can't expect anything else from them, we are talking about France in the end.  Grin

You're goddamn right.
I can't stand our media saying that "right wing lost the election"... Right is already at power! There is nothing but liberals and rightist as candidates now, all the socialists and marxists haven't gone further than first turn Cry


But still there is a slight hope. "France Insoumise" had nearly 20% of votes this time. That's still too low but we might manage to finally make a democratic revolution next time.
Maybe
I hope ^^

There are 20% of melanchon and 20% of Lepen, and large % of non voters or people who are not convinced by macron either Wink

Not sure how this is going to end but clearly most people seem fed up with current politics lol

Yeah it was like 20% of people who didn't vote?
That sure makes quite lot of people.

I don't see how people could be anything but fed up. We're being enslaved every day a bit more by international companies. They got control over pretty much everything and they're just using corrupted assholes like Lepen to make us believe that the "real danger is Islam and immigration"

Sure, what's more dangerous? Free international companies or Islamic terrorism? If you answered terrorism please look at the number of deaths due to working conditions and the amount of deaths due to terrorist attacks in developped countries.
They want to make us believe the real problem are people "abusing social system". If you believe that just look at the cost of those abuses (a few dozens millions) and the cost of fiscal evasion (a few billions) and think again

Always the same shit...
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They're tactical
His wife's son is older than him. Isn't that a bit weird to you guys? Or is that a common situation in France?

I don't see any difference between Macron and Lepen anyway. Both are rightist faschists. Lepen is just a bit more hardcore. I guess you can't expect anything else from them, we are talking about France in the end.  Grin

You're goddamn right.
I can't stand our media saying that "right wing lost the election"... Right is already at power! There is nothing but liberals and rightist as candidates now, all the socialists and marxists haven't gone further than first turn Cry


But still there is a slight hope. "France Insoumise" had nearly 20% of votes this time. That's still too low but we might manage to finally make a democratic revolution next time.
Maybe
I hope ^^

There are 20% of melanchon and 20% of Lepen, and large % of non voters or people who are not convinced by macron either Wink

Not sure how this is going to end but clearly most people seem fed up with current politics lol
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His wife's son is older than him. Isn't that a bit weird to you guys? Or is that a common situation in France?

I don't see any difference between Macron and Lepen anyway. Both are rightist faschists. Lepen is just a bit more hardcore. I guess you can't expect anything else from them, we are talking about France in the end.  Grin

You're goddamn right.
I can't stand our media saying that "right wing lost the election"... Right is already at power! There is nothing but liberals and rightist as candidates now, all the socialists and marxists haven't gone further than first turn Cry


But still there is a slight hope. "France Insoumise" had nearly 20% of votes this time. That's still too low but we might manage to finally make a democratic revolution next time.
Maybe
I hope ^^
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They're tactical
His wife's son is older than him. Isn't that a bit weird to you guys? Or is that a common situation in France?

I don't see any difference between Macron and Lepen anyway. Both are rightist faschists. Lepen is just a bit more hardcore. I guess you can't expect anything else from them, we are talking about France in the end.  Grin

But yeah not much to expect from politics in france, everything seem stuck lol


That not false, but the governance system want the politic working that way.
You're president okay. But their is a 2nd vote called 'Legislative' to vote for the peoples who review, accept or deny the new or law's updates.
If during that 2nd vote, the opposition wins: nothing shall pass.


In france people have a culture of strong presidential leadership,  and talk a lot about quality for electors who represent certain value etc, and the president can by pass the deputy chamber with the in famous 49.3 article who has been used by previous government to pass the "macron law" without a vote by deputies ..

Many people did not forgive this, specially on the left.

It's why it's easy to forsee lot of turmoil in the street Smiley macron will never have a majority in the deputy chamber, and majority will vite against him, but for what it worth, deputy are elected with 10% of votes and they are very critised lately too with all the advantage they have, and how it become a mafia of old professionals of politics who only think in term of carrer and personal advantage..
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His wife's son is older than him. Isn't that a bit weird to you guys? Or is that a common situation in France?

I don't see any difference between Macron and Lepen anyway. Both are rightist faschists. Lepen is just a bit more hardcore. I guess you can't expect anything else from them, we are talking about France in the end.  Grin

But yeah not much to expect from politics in france, everything seem stuck lol


That not false, but the governance system want the politic working that way.
You're president okay. But their is a 2nd vote called 'Legislative' to vote for the peoples who review, accept or deny the new or law's updates.
If during that 2nd vote, the opposition wins: nothing shall pass.
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They're tactical
His wife's son is older than him. Isn't that a bit weird to you guys? Or is that a common situation in France?

I don't see any difference between Macron and Lepen anyway. Both are rightist faschists. Lepen is just a bit more hardcore. I guess you can't expect anything else from them, we are talking about France in the end.  Grin

No it's not common situation in france lol but most likely he is gay or bi and his wife is a facade.

But yeah not much to expect from politics in france, everything seem stuck lol

Macron look a bit softer and target different audience, wait & see, lot of people are fed up with both too, they never mention the 40% or so of abstentionnists, and the number of "non expressed vote" is never taken in account, only the ones who express a vote for a candidate, so the real % is much lower if it is put in the whole number of electors, it's about an half of it, many time for deputies they never reach 10% lol and it will break all high records and im pretty sure there are going to be strong motion in the street in the next monthes Wink

In the end even macron have more people against him than pro, even if he end first, the two other party hate him and they make more than 50% of electors, even if the two other 25% are not on the same side, they still cant stand him lol neither on the left or right side .

Between the terrorists and the fascists what can goes wrong lol
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His wife's son is older than him. Isn't that a bit weird to you guys? Or is that a common situation in France?

I don't see any difference between Macron and Lepen anyway. Both are rightist faschists. Lepen is just a bit more hardcore. I guess you can't expect anything else from them, we are talking about France in the end.  Grin
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