Emmanuel macron is the next President of France. - page 7.

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Quote from: IadixDev on April 26, 2017, 10:37:26 AM

People only vote for what they know Grin

People seem to be afraid of their own brothers.
When asked about Melenchon project of giving back the power to the people everyone was like "yeah no, people are too stupid to decide"

Guys you're stupid for not being able to trust in the ability of people to learn...
Surely direct democraty would be hard to set up.
But at least it would be OUR mistakes, not devious plans set up by corporations and banks to steal from us and take our freedom...

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They're tactical

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Quote from: Lieldoryn on April 26, 2017, 09:34:30 AM

I do not remember that at the election both candidates were good. Usually always in the last round of elections leaving a bad candidate and worse. But to choose someone to have. I always vote for the lesser evil. Macron lesser evil so he becomes President.

Well that's the problem...

Especially because this year there WAS good candidates...
People have no excuse. France isn't like USA with only 2 shitty candidates. We had 11 with a couple of good ones and the 3 first candidates are 3 corrupted assholes!

It's like we select the 3 worst possibilities ><

People only vote for what they know Grin

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Quote from: Lieldoryn on April 26, 2017, 09:34:30 AM

I do not remember that at the election both candidates were good. Usually always in the last round of elections leaving a bad candidate and worse. But to choose someone to have. I always vote for the lesser evil. Macron lesser evil so he becomes President.

Well that's the problem...

Especially because this year there WAS good candidates...
People have no excuse. France isn't like USA with only 2 shitty candidates. We had 11 with a couple of good ones and the 3 first candidates are 3 corrupted assholes!

It's like we select the 3 worst possibilities ><

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I do not remember that at the election both candidates were good. Usually always in the last round of elections leaving a bad candidate and worse. But to choose someone to have. I always vote for the lesser evil. Macron lesser evil so he becomes President.

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Quote from: Peter789 on April 26, 2017, 06:48:40 AM

Mainpmf. Please show us credible references to Le Penns stealing?

Easy. She created a false third party called Jeanne and had all her candidates to local elections to be have no choice but to take loans from this party in order to buy fake campaign kits. Everything was then repaid by the state, hence by the people.
You can find everything here:
http://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/politique/fn/affaire-jeanne-le-fn-a-industrialise-le-systeme-de-remboursement-public_1887529.html
http://www.lemonde.fr/police-justice/article/2017/02/25/le-microparti-de-marine-le-pen-vise-par-un-redressement-fiscal_5085560_1653578.html

Or anywhere you want just by typing "Lepen affaire Jeanne" in Google. She basically stole MILLIONS to the country and it's elected members of the FN who admitted that she forced them to do that.

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Who was it that called her a facist? May i remind you Hitler was a socailist? Stalin? Mao? Pol pot? Castro?

Facist is the label given by the extreme left along with the new catch phrase 'far right' and 'populist'. The conservative right actually stand for democracy, free speech and a laze' fair economic system.

Wrong.
Hitler was a fascist, Stalin Mao and the others too, fascist isn't the opposit of socialist. You can actually be facsist AND socialist. Socialist is an economic ideology, fascist is a political ideology. You can totally have both. And Marine Lepen is a fascist simply because she completely imposes her opinions in her party, if you disagree even the slightest you get kicked out, and violently. That's the definition of fascism: gathering people by force. But that doesn't mean she's the only one, it's just a fact.

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The media lied to us about the polls in the US elections. Whats the bet they are doing it now?

I don't give a fuck about the polls. Both candidates are pure trash.
Just don't get lured by Lepen and think she's the good guy. She's not. It doesn't mean Macron is anything better though.

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Quote from: Peter789 on April 26, 2017, 06:48:40 AM

Mainpmf. Please show us credible references to Le Penns stealing?

Who was it that called her a facist? May i remind you Hitler was a socailist? Stalin? Mao? Pol pot? Castro?

Facist is the label given by the extreme left along with the new catch phrase 'far right' and 'populist'. The conservative right actually stand for democracy, free speech and a laze' fair economic system.

The media lied to us about the polls in the US elections. Whats the bet they are doing it now?

I agree with you!

I sympathize with your frustration, but the first round of elections in France confirmed that the sociologists did not lie. The results coincided with those that they predicted. I am sure they will do so with the second round. As for socialism not to be confused with fascism. It's not the same. Simply fascism hiding under the guise of any other social system. In Russia now also there are all the signs of fascism, but they don't recognize.

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Mainpmf. Please show us credible references to Le Penns stealing?

Who was it that called her a facist? May i remind you Hitler was a socailist? Stalin? Mao? Pol pot? Castro?

Facist is the label given by the extreme left along with the new catch phrase 'far right' and 'populist'. The conservative right actually stand for democracy, free speech and a laze' fair economic system.

The media lied to us about the polls in the US elections. Whats the bet they are doing it now?

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Both losers of the first rounded called their votes to vote for Macron, however Le Pen voters are still more motivated to attend the votings than the losers's voters.
It all depends on who will go vote.

If more people vote, Macro sure has an advantage.
Personaly that would be my vote also, if I were eligeble to vote in France.

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Quote from: mainpmf on April 26, 2017, 03:55:47 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on April 26, 2017, 03:38:34 AM

Quote from: Alexzap on April 25, 2017, 04:33:36 AM

The ex-Minister of economy of France Emmanuel macron, the results of opinion polls, will win a landslide victory in the second round of the presidential election. It is expected that the Makron attains 64% of the vote, while his rival and former leader of "National front" marine Le Pen is ready to support only 36% of the French. In addition, the survey shows that the Macron in the second round they vote 93% of voters Benoit Amon and 77% Jean-Luc. At the same time, Le Pen can count on 37% of the votes of the electorate of françois Fillon.

I agree with you.
It's obvious that French people lost confidence in traditional political parties.
Both Macron and Le Pen are not candidates from the main parties, establishment.
French people send very serious warnings to the political mainstream, that they don't represent them any more.
In the second round french people will vote for stability, EU, NATO and new economy instead of political chaos Le Pen offering with her immigration politics.
She didn't offer any serious solutions to current political and economical issues in France.
War with EU is to radical move and french people understand it.

Dude....
Lepen I disagree but ok she's not the STANDARD party. Even if she's still greatly in the establishment as you put it.

But Macron? He's a fucking banker! He's a former minister!!! How the hell is that not "political mainstream"??

Macron is just the standard French politician. Just a bit younger.
Same ideas as usual, same methods, same speechs.
OMG even his speeches are copies of Hollande speeches!

Many old people yearn for their youth and support the actions of populists and fascists like marine Le pen, the collapse of the EU and return to the franc. For the young this is a return to the past and reduced opportunities. I am sure that the future for such as Macron.

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They're tactical

https://www.fintechlawblog.com/2016/03/the-french-take-on-the-blockchain/ Cheesy

The closing statement provided by Emmanuel Macron, the French Minister of Economy, Industry and Digital Economy, was subsequently echoed by his announcement on March 29 of the upcoming adaptation of the French finance regulatory framework in order to progressively allow the introduction of the technology.

This adaptation should first open up to experimentation on the mini-bond market, to be expanded to other tools.

Mr. Macron stated that he was “aware of the importance of the disruptive potential of the blockchain” while the regulatory framework was limited by the current French and European regulations, which prevented the use of the blockchain “in real-life situations, i.e. with real clients and not exclusively in closed beta test scenario within a given financial institution.”

It was also announced that a ministerial ordinance had just been submitted for review to the French Administrative Supreme Court (“Conseil d’État”) to allow for such experimentation in the coming weeks.

Grin

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Quote from: IadixDev on April 26, 2017, 03:59:26 AM

he seems to like blockchain and digital economy at least

Not at all. He just likes whatever he wants if it makes vote for him.

He's a banker, he's completely for digital evonomy and blockchain IF it's under the control of banks...

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Quote from: Daniel91 on April 26, 2017, 04:08:57 AM

Quote from: mainpmf on April 26, 2017, 03:55:47 AM

Dude....
Lepen I disagree but ok she's not the STANDARD party. Even if she's still greatly in the establishment as you put it.

But Macron? He's a fucking banker! He's a former minister!!! How the hell is that not "political mainstream"??

Macron is just the standard French politician. Just a bit younger.
Same ideas as usual, same methods, same speechs.
OMG even his speeches are copies of Hollande speeches!

I'm talking here about political mainstream only.
Macron started his own political movement last year and don't represent any of two main political parties in France.
For the first time in the last 50 years, main political parties will not have their candidate in the second round.

Yeah but it's just a change of name...
The ideas are the same, the pople behind him are the same (I mean he has the support of the whole old government), the people paying for the campaign are the same...
You can't say it's not new and mainstream just because the party in itself is young, that's just brainwashing.
His political party is the same as the old PS which is now dying. Giving it a new name doesn't make it new in any kind of way xD

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Quote from: mainpmf on April 26, 2017, 03:55:47 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on April 26, 2017, 03:38:34 AM

Quote from: Alexzap on April 25, 2017, 04:33:36 AM

The ex-Minister of economy of France Emmanuel macron, the results of opinion polls, will win a landslide victory in the second round of the presidential election. It is expected that the Makron attains 64% of the vote, while his rival and former leader of "National front" marine Le Pen is ready to support only 36% of the French. In addition, the survey shows that the Macron in the second round they vote 93% of voters Benoit Amon and 77% Jean-Luc. At the same time, Le Pen can count on 37% of the votes of the electorate of françois Fillon.

I agree with you.
It's obvious that French people lost confidence in traditional political parties.
Both Macron and Le Pen are not candidates from the main parties, establishment.
French people send very serious warnings to the political mainstream, that they don't represent them any more.
In the second round french people will vote for stability, EU, NATO and new economy instead of political chaos Le Pen offering with her immigration politics.
She didn't offer any serious solutions to current political and economical issues in France.
War with EU is to radical move and french people understand it.

Dude....
Lepen I disagree but ok she's not the STANDARD party. Even if she's still greatly in the establishment as you put it.

But Macron? He's a fucking banker! He's a former minister!!! How the hell is that not "political mainstream"??

Macron is just the standard French politician. Just a bit younger.
Same ideas as usual, same methods, same speechs.
OMG even his speeches are copies of Hollande speeches!

I'm talking here about political mainstream only.
Macron started his own political movement last year and don't represent any of two main political parties in France.
For the first time in the last 50 years, main political parties will not have their candidate in the second round.

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Quote from: Alexzap on April 25, 2017, 04:33:36 AM

The ex-Minister of economy of France Emmanuel macron, the results of opinion polls, will win a landslide victory in the second round of the presidential election. It is expected that the Makron attains 64% of the vote, while his rival and former leader of "National front" marine Le Pen is ready to support only 36% of the French. In addition, the survey shows that the Macron in the second round they vote 93% of voters Benoit Amon and 77% Jean-Luc. At the same time, Le Pen can count on 37% of the votes of the electorate of françois Fillon.

That is the voice of the people of France and we cannot but to agree with it especially that we are not a citizen in that country. Then there will be no great financial changes in France since Le Pen lost and they will continue to use pounds as their official currency. But the election is not over and let us witness if there are major changes on the actual election itself.

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They're tactical

he seems to like blockchain and digital economy at least

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Quote from: Daniel91 on April 26, 2017, 03:38:34 AM

Quote from: Alexzap on April 25, 2017, 04:33:36 AM

The ex-Minister of economy of France Emmanuel macron, the results of opinion polls, will win a landslide victory in the second round of the presidential election. It is expected that the Makron attains 64% of the vote, while his rival and former leader of "National front" marine Le Pen is ready to support only 36% of the French. In addition, the survey shows that the Macron in the second round they vote 93% of voters Benoit Amon and 77% Jean-Luc. At the same time, Le Pen can count on 37% of the votes of the electorate of françois Fillon.

I agree with you.
It's obvious that French people lost confidence in traditional political parties.
Both Macron and Le Pen are not candidates from the main parties, establishment.
French people send very serious warnings to the political mainstream, that they don't represent them any more.
In the second round french people will vote for stability, EU, NATO and new economy instead of political chaos Le Pen offering with her immigration politics.
She didn't offer any serious solutions to current political and economical issues in France.
War with EU is to radical move and french people understand it.

Dude....
Lepen I disagree but ok she's not the STANDARD party. Even if she's still greatly in the establishment as you put it.

But Macron? He's a fucking banker! He's a former minister!!! How the hell is that not "political mainstream"??

Macron is just the standard French politician. Just a bit younger.
Same ideas as usual, same methods, same speechs.
OMG even his speeches are copies of Hollande speeches!

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Quote from: Alexzap on April 25, 2017, 04:33:36 AM

The ex-Minister of economy of France Emmanuel macron, the results of opinion polls, will win a landslide victory in the second round of the presidential election. It is expected that the Makron attains 64% of the vote, while his rival and former leader of "National front" marine Le Pen is ready to support only 36% of the French. In addition, the survey shows that the Macron in the second round they vote 93% of voters Benoit Amon and 77% Jean-Luc. At the same time, Le Pen can count on 37% of the votes of the electorate of françois Fillon.

I agree with you.
It's obvious that French people lost confidence in traditional political parties.
Both Macron and Le Pen are not candidates from the main parties, establishment.
French people send very serious warnings to the political mainstream, that they don't represent them any more.
In the second round french people will vote for stability, EU, NATO and new economy instead of political chaos Le Pen offering with her immigration politics.
She didn't offer any serious solutions to current political and economical issues in France.
War with EU is to radical move and french people understand it.

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Quote from: Peter789 on April 25, 2017, 11:45:41 PM

Remember the US elections?

Remember, our socialist media, constantly confirming polls that showed Hillary ahead?

The silent majority are waking.

Lol cause sure the silent majority would be glad to see Lepen at power xD

Well anyway we're screwed. On the one hand there is a crazy bitch who simply wants to build a fucking wall around the whole country, on the other a corrupted asshole who wants to continue giving less taxes to companies and more power to banks...

Oh should I point out that the crazy bitch is also corrupted as fuck? She's been stilling millions from the people already...

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Quote from: Peter789 on April 25, 2017, 11:45:41 PM

Remember the US elections?

Remember, our socialist media, constantly confirming polls that showed Hillary ahead?

The silent majority are waking.

Right now, Le Pen is 28 points behind Macron as per the latest opinion polls. Even if there is a significant reverse Bradley effect (as the case with the rust belt states such as Wisconsin in the 2016 POTUS election), it will be impossible for her to overcome this margin.

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Remember the US elections?

Remember, our socialist media, constantly confirming polls that showed Hillary ahead?

The silent majority are waking.

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