Topic: Equal society is possible.... - page 2. (Read 764 times)

To be honest I don’t think the society can ever have a equal social Class in the society even Karl max classified the society into three categories.and the world we live in can’t accept that foam of equality

An equal society does not mean everyone will be in the class of the elites. If everyone belong to that class, there will be no balance and it will certainly cause more problems than good for the people. Irrespective of the amount of wealth one has to his name, everyone should still be given equal rights. This is where the equality comes In. No one should be prevented from enjoying certain benefits simply because they are poor. An equal society where everyone shares thesame right and benefits can  actually be achieved if everyone can drop their pride and live in harmony with one another. This is the only way we can bridge the gap between the rich and the poor in the society.

This your statement is the truth about equality I totally agree with you,  when there is peace equality will not have significant effect people felt they are less value when they lack peace.
Nature has be designed for mankind to exist in stages, assuming everyone is equal to the president who will give command or everyone has equal financial status who will be a labourer to feed others. Equality can't work. But one thing is that when peace exist human shift from there level to another, as a labourer today can end up employer of labour that is why I so much agree with odohu that it will be a Chao's.

Sure, Blockchain technology and decentralization can be used to fight against corruption and help to establish transparency within our monetary system, but you need to be aware that if only possible if the current system of the FIAT as tool of transition of value gets abolished, and that is not something which the governments and the big companies are willing to allow to happen. It would imply we as citizens would have access to information which the corrupt do not have us to have: their salary, their balances in the Blockchain, the way they actually manage the public budgets, among other things.

If there is a system which they would prefer to adopt, then it would be one which would allow them to further steal and defraud society and go unpunished as long as possible.

I have also seen people suggesting that in order for us to defeat corruption and bring more equality to society, we should try to implement a communist government or a socialist government with an Articial Inteligence or a machine as the leader of the country/administration. Since the machine would not hold human feelings whatsoever, it could not feel greed, anger or desire to defraud the nation which is being administered. Though, I personally believe that possibility to be extremely futuristic and dystopian for my taste.

My post is my private property, my work, my creation. Deleting it is destruction of private property.


If someone is one someone elses private propery, he/she is trespasing, breaking the law, every right to throw them out.

You are correct, but another notion that might assist overcome the human Being prone for corruption is the use of technology in order to build a more democratic and accountable society. For instance, the application of blockchain technology may be used to build a system in which every single transaction are documented and made accessible to everyone, making it much harder for anyone to participate in corrupt behaviour. This might contribute to a kinder to one another society by making it simpler to observe and hold individuals responsible for the results of their activities. Help to establish a society that is more equitable while understanding and tackling the human vulnerability for dishonesty and arrogance. So equal society can be achieved.

How would this be possible? The rich always want to be top and having preys they would always use for there evil works.
There eis no possibility that equal society could be possible at any. The government is always tasking the poor more than necessary so we don't need to be surprised about this. Things are looking like it could be possible mere saying it but beneath the truth about live, ww know that this would never be possible even in 1000 years to come.

As of the moment, there is no real communist country per the definition of karl marx.  Even China who is considered a communist country is more on a socialist than a communist.  There will always be people who are more well of than the others and there are so many considerations before  you can say that you achieve being a communist country (per the definition of karl marx).  Maybe in the future we will see a communist country by the definition of karl marx but I am more leading that it is almost impossible and socialist country is a more achievable goal.

Humans are social creatures, so humans have been living in groups since the Stone Age until now. From the Stone Age to the modern age, in this great period of time, society has undergone massive changes in the way of thinking, achieving goals, and needs, and using rituals in the structure. In the Stone Age people had very few needs and lived in groups by hunting. But in the current context, as people's income has increased due to the discovery of various means of earning, many people have remained poor, and the difference between the rich and the poor has made social equality almost impossible.

That is a pretty amazing viewpoint! So you're implying that human nature's greed and selfishness make it harder to build a society that is equal. You also believe that class inequality are an inevitable component of human society and that attempting to eliminate them is impossible to achieve. Instead, we should work to create a society in which everyone, regardless of class, can live in peace and harmony.  This requires the government to spread wealth more fairly, as a greater number of people own a greater share of the wealth while other people have very little, and kids born into poor households are less likely to have the resources they require to be successful.

As a concept communism is the best thing but they are flawed as you said leaders never do the job of the bottom-level workers so where is the actual equality? And it doesn't fit in the modern politics games which is why Cuba is struggling even to face the basic needs but somehow manages due to the tourism which they got after covid.

Karl Marx and Communism are the best, except for one thing. The leaders are never simple workers... doing the simple job of leading and directing. They always pilfer off the top of the earnings to get a more comfortable life... or to get really wealthy. There is no way to stop this in Communism. It always happens, and is the one destroying flaw that always is in all of Communism.

It is very difficult to think or create an equal society for all.There has been a disparity between the rich and the poor since ages.It is not possible for anyone to balance this.An equal society is imaginable.If a rich person would have taken the poor a little, then maybe the image of the society would have been a little different.But that might be nothing but foolishness to expect.  Because equality between rich and poor is never possible.None of them can accept anyone as their own.Both groups of people have to extend their hand of cooperation to balance this.  The upper class should also be polite to the lower class and the lower class should be respectful towards the upper class, but maybe it is possible to eliminate this inequality to some extent.

This will only be possible if the first class citizen balance the gap between the rich, middle class and the poor, there is much separation existing between this classes I mentioned here, many rich people wouldn't like to mingle with average people because they believe that they are not their class, it is not as if it is impossible but individual thinking differs, though I still believe that there are people who has been thinking this way but our political class mainly will not allow this equality and the same right system to exist because of their selfish interest, the world is full of dubious people that loves segregation.

The concept of equality is just a mirage! I know a lot of people fantasise over this a lot. The truth is that a world of equality will only lead to anarchy and chaos as there will be no law and order.

There is hardly any religion of the world that teaches about equality. Even in socialist societies, there is rarely a practicable demonstration of this equality.

The early we accept the natural concept of social stratification,  the earlier we will all live in peace and harmony with everyone respecting their boundaries and limits as well as those of others.

An unequal society doesn't mean that people have to harm each other. I want an unequal society where all people, great and small, respect each other.

For example, I don't want to work two jobs just to be able to buy more toys in life. Other people might want the toys, so they work two jobs. I don't want to be equal with them, and they don't want to be equal with me.

In fact, there should be more respect because of the inequality.

Karl Marx would suggest that everybody should embrace his ideals, equality. I would suggest that only those who want to embrace his ideals should be equal with him.

No I don't think that in law that humans are equal. Karl Marx said it with the expectation and hope that if human society would operate as equal but we know that egalitarian society is not totally possible. In the bible it is also said that man is God to man and so if that is so , it means man will not be equal in certain circumstances. About law, it is human factors that made law to be created. Like Thomas Hobbes said that life will be brutish and nasty without law and punishment. Deleting your post is maybe because you have gone against the rule and law which can cause your post to be deleted.

To me I don't think an equal society can be possible, check the society today,the rich are getting richer, while the poor are getting poorer, the rich always see themselves to be Superior and see the poor as inferior, there's always a differenciation of class.

You can also see the problems we are having even in our religious practices, there's always an religious crisis between the Christians and the Muslims, how can an equal society be possible when there is no peace between the religious groups?

Check in politics too, the politicians see the citizens as people of low class, deceive the citizens, make fake promises(manifestos) during campaign and end up not fulfilling any when they finally acquire power and political positions,
I don't really think an equal society can be possible, it's will be hard to achieve...

You actually made wonderful points that throughly reflect my view. Actually,  the concept of equality have no known history. From ancient kingdoms through the Biblical era to even our traditional African setting, there has never been a place for equality rather we have seen social stratification tailored in such a way that there will be law and order.

If everyone in the society is equal in all ramification, there will be chaos.  What we should focus on should be ensuring that we all enjoy peace and live in harmon; everyone should have a sense of belonging.

You're wrong about that. We can be all seen as equal by the law, but law is not a single paragraph. There's also things like private property.

If moderators were unable to delete a post on their own platform due to equality laws, you also wouldn't be able to throw someone out of your property. If posts are permanent and untouchable, so is art, but what is art? If I paint a mural on your wall without asking, do you have the right to repaint it? After all you'd be destroying my work and we are equal.

Moderating forums has nothing to do with equality, or the lack of it.