Topic: Equal society is possible.... - page 4. (Read 873 times)
Equality in the society will be impossible,because human mindset is different from one another and we are also very greedy and full of evil. The rich wouldn't want to share their resources with the poor neither will they allow their children to mingle with a poor kid. Just the way our fingers are not equal that is how equality can't be achieved in a society. It is only in the sight of God that we are equal because he created us all. But we just find ourselves in the society and the rich one will look at the poor as shit that is why they oppress and intimidate the poor with hash conditions and hatred. The leaders that are suppose to help the society to achieve equality are the ones dividing the society with their evil ways
What is an "equal society?" Those who incorporate (1) equality of outcome or (2) equality of opportunity?
You see, people have:
- Different talents/abilities
- Different interest
- Different priorities in life
- Different ambition
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs." is pretty flawed since there's no abundance of resources that can satisfy everyone wants (not needs). Anyway, even if we argue that the resources are unlimited and can satisfy everyone, people won't have the drive to push themselves like in this era. Innovation in technology etc. only happens because someone somewhere wants to get rich.
You see, people have:
- Different talents/abilities
- Different interest
- Different priorities in life
- Different ambition
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs." is pretty flawed since there's no abundance of resources that can satisfy everyone wants (not needs). Anyway, even if we argue that the resources are unlimited and can satisfy everyone, people won't have the drive to push themselves like in this era. Innovation in technology etc. only happens because someone somewhere wants to get rich.
The theories of Karl Marx has made us to understand that an equal society is possible if the society work in unity. Search has shown that 80% of relationship between societies is strictly bias and profit minded which make it difficult for equal society to exist. The rich hate the poor to reach the class and the poor hate the rich for always staying at the top. A quote says: the rich cannot sleep because the poor are awakes and the poor can not sleep because they're hungry. This are part societies from the pictures of seeing people equal or leadership doubtlessly working towards equal societies. Is any society that practice equality laws and equity for oneness in all shared resource?
There can never be a time everybody will be rich at the same time. The society does not permit that and also nature does not permit that. There must be an imbalance in society for there to be the difference between the giver and the receiver, the rich and the poor.If everything is balanced and eventually everybody becomes rich, there won't be any story of success and failure and the whole life will not be sweet. The is why everyone tries to be in the rich category of the society and then money can flow from rich to poor.
Hey, the theory you're attempting to visualize is not feasible in this circumstance. And any effort made to make that work will be worthless because the goal can never be achieved. Because fingers are not equal, the world's population will never live in an equal society.
There are numerous unlikely possibilities this can lead to if certain people plan to come together and work toward this common goal. The world will be a better place if we show compassion, love, and support to those who are less fortunate, but living in an equal society will never be possible.
There are numerous unlikely possibilities this can lead to if certain people plan to come together and work toward this common goal. The world will be a better place if we show compassion, love, and support to those who are less fortunate, but living in an equal society will never be possible.
Sounds like you are in some sort of fantasy world
There can never be equality in a society. So long as we have politicians and rules whom we hand over our power and money in form of taxes to make rules and laws for us. Humans are easily corrupted by power and money, and they will do the most stupid things to stay at the top.
Maybe first abolishing politics and politicians can be a greet step in the right direction.
There can never be equality in a society. So long as we have politicians and rules whom we hand over our power and money in form of taxes to make rules and laws for us. Humans are easily corrupted by power and money, and they will do the most stupid things to stay at the top.
Maybe first abolishing politics and politicians can be a greet step in the right direction.
Class struggle is one of the characteristics of human civilization and the world is divided along this line and there is class separation and most times is the rich vs the poor and this is how the society has been configured to work, while the rich struggle to get richer, the poor constantly struggle to stay amazed.
We have another class which is between the two who are the middle class, while the class struggle to land in the upper class/Rich but in most cases their end up dropping down to the lower asylum poor due to economic situation and lack of necessary resource to keep them afloat.
We have another class which is between the two who are the middle class, while the class struggle to land in the upper class/Rich but in most cases their end up dropping down to the lower asylum poor due to economic situation and lack of necessary resource to keep them afloat.
...has made us to understand that an equal society is possible if the society work in unity. Search has shown that 80% of relationship between societies is strictly bias and profit minded which make it difficult for equal society to exist. The rich hate the poor to reach the class and the poor hate the rich for always staying at the top. A quote says: the rich cannot sleep because the poor are awakes and the poor can not sleep because they're hungry. This are part societies from the pictures of seeing people equal or leadership doubtlessly working towards equal societies. Is any society that practice equality laws and equity for oneness in all shared resource?
I don't know what world the panorama you paint is from, but it certainly isn't from this one. In this world we will never be equal, and that's not a bad thing, the world is the way it is. What we have to be is equal in rights and tend to try to equalize in opportunities, not in results. Although I doubt you understand what I am saying.
The trouble is that not everybody can do every trade. A seamstress might not know how to make car engines. A car metallurgist might not know how to make glass for the windows. Only a few people know how to organize and direct the affairs of society to benefit everyone equally. And there is where the problem lies. You can't trust the leaders to keep from enriching themselves above the rest, and making everybody else their slaves. If they say that you can trust them, how do you know they aren't lying... or at least delusional?
Ye sure, dream on. It would mean everyone has the same intellectual capacity. If your wife is smarter as you no longer equal to her, you are below her standing.
Warm ice-cream is possible.......
Warm ice-cream is possible.......
There's nothing that is impossible as long as we can give it all it takes to survived through the impossibilities that constitute the whole matter, these kind of midset is what led to the development of an impossible research through an ordinary imagination that something can fly up as against the law of motion if created and this are the ideas that comes up to having an aeroplane, which means if there's unity in the society, anything is achievable among the people.
...has made us to understand that an equal society is possible if the society work in unity. Search has shown that 80% of relationship between societies is strictly bias and profit minded which make it difficult for equal society to exist. The rich hate the poor to reach the class and the poor hate the rich for always staying at the top. A quote says: the rich cannot sleep because the poor are awakes and the poor can not sleep because they're hungry. This are part societies from the pictures of seeing people equal or leadership doubtlessly working towards equal societies. Is any society that practice equality laws and equity for oneness in all shared resource?
I don't know what world the panorama you paint is from, but it certainly isn't from this one. In this world we will never be equal, and that's not a bad thing, the world is the way it is. What we have to be is equal in rights and tend to try to equalize in opportunities, not in results. Although I doubt you understand what I am saying.
Pretty much as everyone has stated the common problem in achieving an equal society
is the inclusion of Humans. We are all different with different goals, needs and
requirements. Its just too simple to say social equality is achievable.
I would say the only time humans had social equality was during the time of the early
hunter gatherers, there was only very simple goals, food, warmth and shelter.
In an effort to live a life some people do better than others and have different capabilities,
work harder than others and have greater goals than others which results in greater
rewards for different people.
is the inclusion of Humans. We are all different with different goals, needs and
requirements. Its just too simple to say social equality is achievable.
I would say the only time humans had social equality was during the time of the early
hunter gatherers, there was only very simple goals, food, warmth and shelter.
In an effort to live a life some people do better than others and have different capabilities,
work harder than others and have greater goals than others which results in greater
rewards for different people.
"Great idea; wrong species" - American biologist E. O. Wilson.
Wealth distribution sounds great until it applies to humans who are incapable of working in perfect unison with respect to wealth generation. The amount of work someone does must be proportional to the wealth someone generates -- with communism it's easy for someone's work to be disproportionate to the wealth generated. Now, if you're an ant on a farm -- and all your programed to do is work in unison, communism looks feasible. Not even during the hunter gatherer era was there equality, such a concept didn't exist.
I was thinking that there was little to separate each group of hunter gatherers, simple
tools, simple clothing and simple shelter. The sole purpose was to sustain
that simple life. It could be compared to those Ants...
In developed countries life is very complicated and is predominantly driven by
seeking wealth and trying to progress so everyone is on a slightly different path to
others which doesnt go too well for an equal society.
The theories of Karl Marx has made us to understand that an equal society is possible if the society work in unity.
Its just theory with difficult to implement 
Ye sure, dream on. It would mean everyone has the same intellectual capacity. If your wife is smarter as you no longer equal to her, you are below her standing.
Warm ice-cream is possible.......
Warm ice-cream is possible.......
Pretty much as everyone has stated the common problem in achieving an equal society
is the inclusion of Humans. We are all different with different goals, needs and
requirements. Its just too simple to say social equality is achievable.
I would say the only time humans had social equality was during the time of the early
hunter gatherers, there was only very simple goals, food, warmth and shelter.
In an effort to live a life some people do better than others and have different capabilities,
work harder than others and have greater goals than others which results in greater
rewards for different people.
is the inclusion of Humans. We are all different with different goals, needs and
requirements. Its just too simple to say social equality is achievable.
I would say the only time humans had social equality was during the time of the early
hunter gatherers, there was only very simple goals, food, warmth and shelter.
In an effort to live a life some people do better than others and have different capabilities,
work harder than others and have greater goals than others which results in greater
rewards for different people.
"Great idea; wrong species" - American biologist E. O. Wilson.
Wealth distribution sounds great until it applies to humans who are incapable of working in perfect unison with respect to wealth generation. The amount of work someone does must be proportional to the wealth someone generates -- with communism it's easy for someone's work to be disproportionate to the wealth generated. Now, if you're an ant on a farm -- and all your programed to do is work in unison, communism looks feasible. Not even during the hunter gatherer era was there equality, such a concept didn't exist.
The theories of Karl Marx...
You have not read Marx's Capital, in the same way that almost no one has read it. The garbage of labor theory of value or that in that ideal communist society instead of being specialized in a job, we would change jobs just like gender fluid people change gender are just plain bullshit.
...has made us to understand that an equal society is possible if the society work in unity. Search has shown that 80% of relationship between societies is strictly bias and profit minded which make it difficult for equal society to exist. The rich hate the poor to reach the class and the poor hate the rich for always staying at the top. A quote says: the rich cannot sleep because the poor are awakes and the poor can not sleep because they're hungry. This are part societies from the pictures of seeing people equal or leadership doubtlessly working towards equal societies. Is any society that practice equality laws and equity for oneness in all shared resource?
I don't know what world the panorama you paint is from, but it certainly isn't from this one. In this world we will never be equal, and that's not a bad thing, the world is the way it is. What we have to be is equal in rights and tend to try to equalize in opportunities, not in results. Although I doubt you understand what I am saying.
The theories of Karl Marx has made us to understand that an equal society is possible if the society work in unity.
Unfortunately I do not think that soceity will ever act unitedly no matter how hard they try to make it happen. Human beings are difficult to control and with the different opinions and views that people have is increasing daily, people are becoming harder to bring together but easier to divide. An equal soceity will be something very difficult to achieve when people disagree on everything from religion to culture to lifestyle,
Pretty much as everyone has stated the common problem in achieving an equal society
is the inclusion of Humans. We are all different with different goals, needs and
requirements. Its just too simple to say social equality is achievable.
I would say the only time humans had social equality was during the time of the early
hunter gatherers, there was only very simple goals, food, warmth and shelter.
In an effort to live a life some people do better than others and have different capabilities,
work harder than others and have greater goals than others which results in greater
rewards for different people.
is the inclusion of Humans. We are all different with different goals, needs and
requirements. Its just too simple to say social equality is achievable.
I would say the only time humans had social equality was during the time of the early
hunter gatherers, there was only very simple goals, food, warmth and shelter.
In an effort to live a life some people do better than others and have different capabilities,
work harder than others and have greater goals than others which results in greater
rewards for different people.
Theoretically speaking yes it's possible, but like Karl Marx believes, that profit minded influence could be the source of this inequality!
You can imagine we have people all over the world willing to do anything for a few bucks and this also brings in the element of Master slave relationship which distorts the possibility of equality.
And the fact that society has allowed certain places, things to be only available to a certain class of people,equality can never be archived all thanks to this thing called money...unless you live in a communist environment.
You can imagine we have people all over the world willing to do anything for a few bucks and this also brings in the element of Master slave relationship which distorts the possibility of equality.
And the fact that society has allowed certain places, things to be only available to a certain class of people,equality can never be archived all thanks to this thing called money...unless you live in a communist environment.
The theories of Karl Marx has made us to understand that an equal society is possible if the society work in unity.
My brother your understanding of that Karl Marx theory is very narrow. That Karl Marx theory can only work in a small society of few people and not much. Which that can under themselves. Even a Nations State with large number of people can't unite themselves. And a society can never be equal again on this Earth because the mindset of the people is no more one again. Capitalism has spoiled everything for Marxist theory. Do you also remember that Marx said the only way for the people to have egalitarian society is massive revolution against the Capitalist society but the Capitalist use these the same youths to divide themselves, so there will be no unity in anywhere. The rich is using the poor to divide themselves.
The theories of Karl Marx has made us to understand that an equal society is possible if the society work in unity. Search has shown that 80% of relationship between societies is strictly bias and profit minded which make it difficult for equal society to exist. The rich hate the poor to reach the class and the poor hate the rich for always staying at the top. A quote says: the rich cannot sleep because the poor are awakes and the poor can not sleep because they're hungry. This are part societies from the pictures of seeing people equal or leadership doubtlessly working towards equal societies. Is any society that practice equality laws and equity for oneness in all shared resource?
Everything is possible to achieve when we live in peace with our fellow brothers in the society, we have to make it a responsibility and point of duty to ensure that this ia what we all set as a common goal, living in peace and harmony will facilitate the quick growth and development of the people living together in the society and everyone will share a common sense of responsibility for each other in that same experience.
Human nature full of greed and selfishness will not permit Equal society devoid of class, class as been part of the society, it can never be eliminated in nor no time, we have to live in harmony and peace, regardless of the class, this the only equal society that is visible if we all work toward it.
In this society where the poor see no good things, the Rich get richer, classes society is not possible
In this society where the poor see no good things, the Rich get richer, classes society is not possible
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