Topic: Era’s really do come to an end - page 5. (Read 775 times)

I don't see anything wrong with an athlete moving from one club to another because it pays more. Few people are willing to work only on enthusiasm. They have to support their families just like us and I'm sure almost everyone would do the same. Someone has labeled sports as having no politics, money hunger and deceit, but in fact all of this is present in sports and has been for a long time, so I am not surprised at all by this choice.

Well, we can't really blame them if that's what they are interested in. It's most likely that as the years go by, something will really change, and the importance of money is in everyone's mind. It's definitely a decision-maker when playing for a club. Sometimes it's for loyalty, and other times it's money. It's just different. I agree with you that Messi, being in FC Barcelona for the majority of his career, is just loyalty and speaks volumes.

It's just the way of life now, I guess.

I think players have realized their worth as players, and they have seen how clubs and franchises made a lot of money from their talents, so they want to have good bargaining power by asking to negotiate about their price. This is not only on football; this is also the case on other sports like basketball and individual sports like boxing.
If a player or a fighter has seen his big contribution to the team, they will ask for a good deal for their skills and passion because these players or fighters are putting all their effort and risking injury to make the team win.

if playing football was all about fun and excitement, most footballers would not inconvenience themselves to playing in an environment that is not favorable to them in terms of religion and other conditions and still continue playing even when cases of racism keep repeating year after year and some of them even get treated wrongly by the club and fans. as an athlete or one that is skilled at a thing, while working on playing for big platforms, you can never factor out the consideration of money from the deal.

the issue starts from club owners and managers that will push you out and treat you like you have never added value to their club ones they feel that they no longer need you and that they already have a replacement for you. would you rather wait to be treated badly or move out at the time you are still relevant and go after the pay? the likes of Ronaldo and Messi has made all the money they need, what they need now is just stats and for Ronaldo, he doesn't care much if his team wins or not, what he is after is just to score more goals and get to the target he is hoping to reach before retiring. times have changed and at present, priority divers, anyone that has the means of playing for a club or league that pays better should go because it is more of business that what it used to be.

From the very old time, professional football has been played for the purpose of getting paid as a profession, although those period the pay weren't as high as this so it felt like it was more of a passion driven stuff but then they had that as a basic factor because it turned out their profession so the fact that now more interest are in football and so many have delved into investing in it because they now see the economic importance and benefit does not make it any much more different from the former, its just a normal human tendencies to want to go towards where they get a higher pay on whatever job or profession they do, even with the passion, pay is a very much considerable driving force.

The mindset has changed. In this sport, you never know how long you’ll last, an injury can end everything in an instant. Just think about it: if you pass up a massive contract because of pride and then suddenly suffer a career-ending injury, you’ll regret it for the rest of your life. 

At the end of the day, we just have to accept reality, sports have evolved, and for most players now,  (money is 99% of the focus).

Clearly different because in the past the players tried to be the best by really showing outstanding playing qualities and making big contribution to each team they played for so that they could become stars football, all for proof and career achievement.
In now era, players especially those at younger age, definitely prioritize pay because from the start their goals was to be able to make large amounts of money as player, on average they don't really care about proving that they can become the best player after being able to earn high salary.

If you have the skill and you are good, I see nothing wrong in trying to find the best pay. Sports is not just about the money, it's the passion in it that keeps these players strong till they archive success and become very good in their field. People like Ronaldo Messi and others, started at a young age, so it's not because they wanted the money, but they enjoyed what they had as a skill. They worked on it and grew it into something big. They can choose who to offer and who not to offer their skill so it's just like that mate...

Money and Passion works together. If players only play for fun and not getting reward for their effort and skill applied in playing football, then maybe they will only end up in their respective villages. People increase in skill and Passion when they know playing well will make them to change club and earn higher. What I staying in essence is that money motivate a person to showcase his passion and this will gradually make him achieve his dream.

This now tells you that it is now for the money and the better packages to get the football players services on either their existing clubs or the new club. If a player is asking for renew contract then they won't stay on the previous terms and therefore, the new terms must be favourable to them before they stay or leave for better payment and comfort.

The era of playing with bigger jersey where players looked like Santa  has gone to modern outlook that defeat the current technological play, we didn't have VAR then but we do now which shows that passion has more with monetary value which can entice players that still have more active years to play in top league and consider going to play in Saudi Arabia, qatar, China, America. They consider such countries for the monetary value not passion and so many players have done that like Benzema, Sadio Mane , N'Golo Kante, Cristiano Ronaldo, Asamoah Gyan, Mario Suarez, Kanoute, Obafemi Martins, Neymar Jr, Lionel Messi etc.

That is because the attracting of money which makes many things change and we can not deny that happens in many aspects not just in sports, betting, or other things. It's not about loyal anymore but it is more than that and if we see the money that flows in that business, we may shock and that makes those people chase where the money flows. If they can make more and more money, that will be good for them as they can achieve their goals to have much money. We can only see what will happen after this and maybe the new era will come and change everything.

Are you familiar with the saying, "money is the root of all evil"? If so, then thats the trigger. We cant really exclude players not playing for money, it would be hypocrite to say they arent. Almost all playing for those sake too but there are few, isnt satisfy with that but jumping to more money opportunity instead of livung their passion.

I think it's pretty obvious that players wanted to be paid that much, have a big paycheck that is commensurate with their talents. And you have to imagine that some of  them really didn't come from a good family or at least poor in the beginning.

But the thing is that there are players that gives back to their community when they start to earn millions.

So I guess you can't blame them, and they still have the passion to play though, not just to chase that big paychecks.

Actually there's no exemption to this because in other sports on which this is really just that the same on which we are already seeing these contracts or simply in money talks. Passion is there but money is far more important. End of an era? We do know that if there's an end then there's a new one coming and the cycle continues. About rising paychecks then it isnt shocking or something new and there are those who do stay into their clubs/teams or with those who had decided to transferred out into other just because of that very common reason on which on having that higher contract amount on which its common sense that they will really be giving out that priority.

Although not all athlete would really be that something like this on which there are still who do stayed up into their club or teams no matter what and this is what you can say about loyalty on which this one really fits out. For us solid fans then we will really be just that simply be trying out to follow whenever these favorite idols be transferring into and this has become that a casual thing on sports world. So it will be that up to you.

So playing in league like the Saudi Pro league isn't about passion except you're playing in the European league clubs? This sentiment would have to be given more in-depth reasons than the excuses you guys always give.

Even in Europe the players there right now don't play for passion, the era for passion for football career has long gone. When every player wants to play in a big club like Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Manchester United, Chelsea, Manchester city, PSG, Barcelona Liverpool etc, it is not about the big club but that they know they will get better paycheck there than where they currently play. What made you think Cristiano Ronaldo left Manchester United to Real Madrid? Or Lionel Messi leaving Barcelona to PSG? It wasn't just about passion but the paycheck compared was enticing than that of their current club. So it wasn't until they left for Saudi Pro league or Inter Miami.

i am pretty sure that yes they do like to play in the big clubs for a lot of reasons and good money is one of them why would these athletes be playing football in the first place if there was no interest? obviously they grew up wanting to play football but now as adults they also need to think about how they could sustain their lifestyles and that is by working

being able to do what you are passionate about while getting large income is a privilege that a lot of these athletes have
if it was only about passion then they would have been better off playing as a hobby and not as a profession

Sports became a business a long time ago... wealth and fame await those who manage to reach the top. That's why parents influence their children from a young age and force them to train more. That's why parents influence their children from a young age and force them to train more. And there are some very negative examples, some people have gone too far with their children.


I wouldn't agree with you, these two are record holders when it comes to their salaries. Maybe it's too much money, maybe they deserved it... I'm not sure. Anyway, every decade in football had its stars and in every decade new records were set in every sense.

But even if you are right that an era ended with Messi and Ronaldo, from that moment on, a new era began. This new era could be worse or better, we will see. We can't just draw conclusions like that, time has to pass, and many games have to be played...

A player can have passion and yet not okay with where they are. In other word, they’ll want to play in top European clubs to be noticed. Aside the paycheck they’ll get. This I think also

That’s very true my friend, at the end of this. It becomes way obvious and they are killing the fun that supporter get supporting them

There are no old days in which some completely different people lived. It was all the same. There has always been a desire to earn money. Do you probably mean that the desire to earn money is already so dominant as motivation that it damages entertainment or football itself in general? If so, it's a subjective impression. The only harm that comes from the desire to earn money as the dominant motivation is match-fixing.