Topic: [ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet - page 246. (Read 966173 times)
Thanks Jim, we'll think about you on next snack! :-D
I just sent you 100 Czech koruna for your 'Margot' fund !
isnt Margot a competitor of Tresor ((c) Kelloggs)?
No, no, completely different thing. :-) 
isnt Margot a competitor of Tresor ((c) Kelloggs)?
Some time ago we bought a big box (50 pcs) of Margot rum-coconut chocolate bar, but the box is almost empty now. :-( Please support us at 1BitkeyP2nDd5oa647AjvBbbwST54W5Zmx so we can buy another one and fuel our brains with this sweet vice, thanks!
-- slush&stick: turning Margot into hardware and code since 2012. :-)
-- slush&stick: turning Margot into hardware and code since 2012. :-)
Yep, pigtail is best idea for this device, imo.
Any update on the ETA? ... I can't wait.
Any update on the ETA? ... I can't wait.
What are comparative disadvantages of the male connector?
Disadvantages are mechanical -> device needs to be bigger and if you wear it on your keychain and/or in your pockets sooner or later you will break the connector.
That the people will plug it into their desktop, which actually sits under the desk or otherwise in a non-easily viewable place. Then they will blindly press the acknowledge buttons without really checking the display on the Trezor.
Exactly, nice to see there are people that understand the issue! Others saying that there's no need for cable and that USB A male connector is better, try this:
1) plug an USB stick into your computer
2) try reading USB stick's brand name written on the stick and at the same time look at your computer's monitor
3) imagine the text on the stick is not 4-6 letters but around 30 almost random letters
Thanks, this makes sense.
Price should be around € 100, but it still depends on many factors, what I read on a blog.
Ouch, that seems a little expensive. I mean, can't you buy old smartphones with that amount? Or perhaps second-hand netbooks that you could format and turn into an offline wallet.If it makes the use of bitcoins closer to becoming idiot-proof, 100 EUR is worth it. I'd buy one. With it's success, the price will certainly come down when serious demand for the product picks up.
What are comparative disadvantages of the male connector?
Disadvantages are mechanical -> device needs to be bigger and if you wear it on your keychain and/or in your pockets sooner or later you will break the connector.
That the people will plug it into their desktop, which actually sits under the desk or otherwise in a non-easily viewable place. Then they will blindly press the acknowledge buttons without really checking the display on the Trezor.
Exactly, nice to see there are people that understand the issue! Others saying that there's no need for cable and that USB A male connector is better, try this:
1) plug an USB stick into your computer
2) try reading USB stick's brand name written on the stick and at the same time look at your computer's monitor
3) imagine the text on the stick is not 4-6 letters but around 30 almost random letters
What are comparative disadvantages of the male connector?
That the people will plug it into their desktop, which actually sits under the desk or otherwise in a non-easily viewable place. Then they will blindly press the acknowledge buttons without really checking the display on the Trezor.Outside of North America pretty much every household already has the required cable. It is a cell-phone industry standard charging and interface cable.
+1 for having a USB A male connector, usb extension cables are easy enough to get if needed, and I can't imagine it'd cost /more/ to use that type of connector vs a female B type.
The price of the connector was never an issue. USB A male connector has more disadvantages than advantages so I don't think we'll change it from USB micro B female.+1 for having a USB A male connector, usb extension cables are easy enough to get if needed, and I can't imagine it'd cost /more/ to use that type of connector vs a female B type.
The price of the connector was never an issue. USB A male connector has more disadvantages than advantages so I don't think we'll change it from USB micro B female.+1 for having a USB A male connector, usb extension cables are easy enough to get if needed, and I can't imagine it'd cost /more/ to use that type of connector vs a female B type.
The price of the connector was never an issue. USB A male connector has more disadvantages than advantages so I don't think we'll change it from USB micro B female.
+1 for having a USB A male connector, usb extension cables are easy enough to get if needed, and I can't imagine it'd cost /more/ to use that type of connector vs a female B type.
Unfortunately having a B-type female connector does prevent you from using it when you don't have a cable. Which means that you pretty much have to carry around a cable -- doubling Trezor's effective size -- in order to realize its "secure bitcoin operations via random insecure desktops" vision. Kinda sad, hope you'll reconsider...
You would need the mentioned cable in 70%+ of cases when using "random insecure desktops" anyway. But we'll think about it again ...
having an A-type male connector doesn't prevent you from using a cable!
Unfortunately having a B-type female connector does prevent you from using it when you don't have a cable. Which means that you pretty much have to carry around a cable -- doubling Trezor's effective size -- in order to realize its "secure bitcoin operations via random insecure desktops" vision.
This makes perfect sense. Please consider the A-type male connector. Unfortunately having a B-type female connector does prevent you from using it when you don't have a cable. Which means that you pretty much have to carry around a cable -- doubling Trezor's effective size -- in order to realize its "secure bitcoin operations via random insecure desktops" vision.
But it looks like that's a female USB mini/micro-B connector, which means you need a cable in order to use it. Is that true, or am I mistaken? I kinda think most people would prefer a device that's cable-wise self-sufficient (like Yubikeys) so they don't have to go hunting around for the right type of cable.
Due to the size of the device (is near twice the width of a standard USB key) is better to
Of course not; having an A-type male connector doesn't prevent you from using a cable!
Unfortunately having a B-type female connector does prevent you from using it when you don't have a cable. Which means that you pretty much have to carry around a cable -- doubling Trezor's effective size -- in order to realize its "secure bitcoin operations via random insecure desktops" vision. Kinda sad, hope you'll reconsider...
Just re-iterating my hope that you make the firmware split (fixed bootloader and reflashable main part), that way, when the payment protocol work is progressing it will be a smooth upgrade to have Trezors show names instead of addresses.
After long discussions with Stick, we decided that we'll offer also unlocked devices (bootloader + refreshable memory), so people will be able to update firmware.
Hooray!
You could also add the ability for the user to choose to (irreversably) blow out the programming fuse. If I were going to give one of these to my grandma I'd do that to it first.
100 € is definitely NOT expensive!
Agreed.
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