Topic: Esports Prediction & Discussion Thread - page 14. (Read 68738 times)

That's what I've read in some of the orgs in the CIS region. But for sure the other ones like in Western Europe, they're careful and the same goes for the NA region. Whilst for SEA and China, it's said to be the same. They have seen the samples of those players that have been banned forever in the grandest tournaments and Valve-sponsored tournaments and ruined their potential good career in being a dota 2 professional player.

Well, this is what greed makes a person and even if you're a pro player, you've got a good salary and have sponsorships from many brands. You just chose to involve the important games of your life for this quick money. I think what they need is pressure from the tournament organizers like Valve, ESL, and other major brands that are being followed by these pro players. Because if there will be another sample given that they've made 322 on an actual tournament game and proven that they've done things intentionally, that's going to make them get out of the scene.

This is one of the best opportunity on this era, you play as a professional just like professional athletes and then get paid, get salary, get major brand sponsorships and with a few clicks away, you're going to sell a game and do 322 thing for the sake of that money which will definitely change your life as well in perspective of the pro players.

If I was a pro player for that kind of org, I'd be pretty wary of what could happen too. These orgs don't really care much about what's in line for these players should their activities be caught by the organizers of the tourney. A potential lifetime ban could be handed and these orgs could just restructure and hire new players and make more money again, while the pros need to face the reality that they are no longer allowed to play and earn from something that they've sacrificed lots of hours for just to get better and compete at the highest level.

Isnt all those organizations are there to make money and exposure. Obviously exposure but if they can make some profit along the way than its pretty good. In Layman terms, all they gotta do is to offer contract to all those high tier players then give them their basic needs alongside with providing all those high ends PC for them to play so thats it then hope the players will win those tournaments.


If you mean ESL then that is a bold claim. They are pretty good but it was the group stage and in BO3 play offs, shitstorm could happen. I watched them, they are good but not really at a point where I can see them totally dominate the whole other teams on play offs. Compared to Team Spirit, they didnt have that kind of domination yet

Speaking of Azure Ray, have you seen the long pause that is because there's a bug on the bear of Lone Druid and they have to make it stop. Actually, it was Team Falcons that was dominating in the 3rd match against Azure Ray and I thought that they were winning in that match but then, Azure Ray still managed to win. While on the other match of G2.IG and GG, GG won against G2.IG and that means that Azure Ray and GG will face the next bracket.

Later on we're going to have match in the lower bracket. First match is Team Secret and Team Liquid, I don't think that Team Secret will win on this one but they have broken the expectations of many fans including me but still, it's still Team Liquid for me.

There was this rumor about the CIS players and teams that have been involved with massive betting and that's actually more than the money that these players can earn professionally. I don't know, it seems that it has been normal there and the real pro players are just avoiding to get involved with any unforeseen activities with their pro matches.

I'm starting to think that BetBoom as an ORG has nothing to do with real esports and they are in the circuit just to make a lot of money , have suspect games , doing awful things when they are playing live ( Pure going on live stream during Bali as example ) and it's not happening just in Dota but all over the other games. As today in CS they had one of the most easiest games in CS on a favorite map and they lost 13-5 after they were down 12-1 ...so yea , I really don't have any faith towards BetBoom as an ORG and it's sad because 2024 it will be an year where gambling sites and especially BetBoom will organize a lot of tournaments into esports.

Not only will AZURE make it through the group stage with ease, they will most likely win the ECL. Although G2.iG in Group B also surprises me, they also have 8 points.

Yes, maybe everything is fine with his money, I rarely play ranked matches, I experience emotions much brighter than when I’m in public, so there’s definitely something in this.

An interesting battle was between Quinn and MidOne in a head-to-head match in a replay. Based on this result, the Gladiators advanced to the upper bracket of the playoffs, where they will face G2 Invictus Gaming.

Well, that's true. It doesn't mean anything but it's just the fans that has given him that title because he's so close in taking that but still did lack of success achieving it.

Yeah, I know. But with the past performances of arteezy, it seems that he's proving to himself that he's not going to win any TI title anytime soon because he don't even want to buy a BKB. 

That's right. Ti has become the basis now for someone's success and that's why most of the players have been trying to focus on being qualified on it together with their team. But I think that it's going to change this time, the biggest potential large pool goes to the Riyadh masters and there can be a sense of more achievement winning there than of TI when the prize pool isn't that big compare in the past. So, time changes and we'll see if the basis are going to change over time.

This means nothing at all unless he win TI. Similar praises was given to Arteezy as well but he never really show his full potential and never win TI so it doesnt mean anything unless you can really prove yourself by winning the Aegis obviously.

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Lost this because BB sucks so bad. I couldnt believe that they lost a map against Secret

I had better winning rate on single bet but it just feel abit weird not to win any parlay on dota2 betting so lets try this once more



Betboom should be able to secure 2-0 against Blacklist. As for Azure ray - GG, that totally screams draw for sure. I might make another single bet on the draw because this one has a good chance of hitting

These points system might be implemented by the regular organizaters of tournaments that have been doing major tournaments. And I agree that the best region to start for some teams is MENA because it's still young and new and there's not that a lot of teams competing from the qualifying tournaments.

I don't think that he's rusty at all. There's not that much difference when someone who's been out for the pro scene for a year but still played a lot of pubs. And yes, ana stopped competitively but never stopped playing in the pubs. But it's different with ana, he is past his prime and that's why he's a bit rusty now together with other great players before. Ame is still said as the uncrowned king.

Azure Ray so strong, they're unlikely to get eliminated on the group stages. Wawitas Sagazes still has last game tomorrow but even if they win 2-0, they're already out of this tournament after that match and they'll go home with $25,000 placing 11th-12th. And their co-bracket team, Blacklist International needs to win 2-0 just to have a chance not to be eliminated.

I don't think he'd run out of money. The passion for these players is unexplainable because it's still different to play competitively than just play with the pubs. The feeling and emotion are different there and he's still talented, that's why a team/org still hired him as their representative and player.

While you and I are watching Azure Ray, in Group B LGD and 9P are losing and sliding down the table. In 2 hours they will play each other, there will be a battle of the titans))

Azure Ray have not lost a single map yet. I think they will win the tournament.

as soon as I see that someone is returning, the first question is: did he run out of money?) If not, then he should have told him that he was going on a break or rest from the Dota 2 and would definitely return. We have seen and will see more than one such return)

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MUST SEE! Guys 3 days ago released the video about ESL One Berlin: Unmuted, we need 40 mins for that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-x49BnZ1iw

Spoiler: there are even Ramzes tears

Those that have 0 loss for this day 1, they've got advantage that they won't get out of this playoffs.

Whilst those that are under and part of the bottom 2 and 4, this is going to be hard for them. This is a points system and much worse if there's a tie on the day 3.

Most teams really need to do their best to take their momentums on the very first day because if they don't do so, they'll have hard time on the second and remaining days.

Day 1 end for the ESL One Kuala Lumpur. Few surprises as 9 Pandas and LGD performing subpar. Gamin Gladiators lost map 1 to secret, that was out of the blue as well, as I was expecting GG to 2-0 that matchup.

Ame has retired for a couple of times now and just comes back to Dota every so often. The guy is restless until he wins that elusive TI trophy. I still watch some of his games every so often and he's still as crisp on pos 1 as he was during his tenure with LGD. I'm not sure whether a complete comeback of the former LGD crew is possible with him joining to Xtreme Gaming. Dy is a good familiar teammate to him, and hopefully Xtreme Gaming posts some good wins at the start of the year leading up to TI.

Especially with the new system on EPT point, there wont be that many points like last season so the best team on each region will be going to those ESL sponsored tournament to get those EPT points which means hiring an entire squad of the best team in NA and SA is the best option that any team could hope for now. MENA region might also be another good region to start for an organization to start with


Kinda wonder how good will this guy play, I mean he hasnt been on competitive scene for over a year so he might be rusty abit. Ana was a top player before he decided to stop then he wasnt really the same guy anymore before he stopped playing competitively

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Any good betting tips for tomorrow? Im going to start with Azure Ray and Betboom to win tomorrow

I guess he's just done with his prime. He went from SEA back to EU and then still didn't manage to end with good places. Dota isn't just all about individual skills but it's a team game. Compared with his relationship and team plays with the real og, OG. It can no longer be compared with the power of friendship and chemistry for which we are seeing this with current Team Spirit.

I've watched the game of Azure Ray and Blacklist Rivalry, both ended up today with a 3-1 and that's a good start for both teams. Whilst for Wawitas Sagazes, they're like a bonus round for the first day.

Alright, this rumor tend to be true and Team Undying's team name now changed to Tundra Esports. This is a nice move for Tundra so that they'll still have their organization in the meta, former TSM/Undying players ain't that bad at all. Knowing that there's not that much competition in the NA scene, so this is a smart choice for them.

And guys, guess who's back?
News: Chinese Dota 2 legend Ame returns to pro play with Xtreme Gaming

Who is excited to see Ame in the pro scene again? I know that most of the fans here including me wanted him to see reunite with his former gang in LGD. Currently, Xtreme Gaming is just composed of two player, him and DY. For sure that there are arrangements already and we'll need to wait further about their announcement on who are the other three players that will be added to the roster.

I think that Topson will be very difficult to join any team, I sometimes even think that with him no team will reach high places.

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Azure Ray defeated Secret and started well, now they already have 3 points. Considering that they could have been suspended, their performance is much more interesting to watch. It’s a pity that I didn’t have time to watch this match, it took place early in the morning in my country (

BB played to a draw with GG and Wawitas Saga. And thaey need to start winning, because a draw only gives 1 point, that’s not enough.

Tomorrow for me there will be the most interesting match AZ - BB, BB will also play with SECRET, I hope this will not be another draw) I would like to see amazing games.

11 hours from now, we're about to see the start of the ESL Kuala Lumpur 2023. Where are you guys? Where are the Dota 2 folks here? Let's start some discussion as I cannot cover most of the updates as I only see a few and most likely none of them regarding players and updates if someone's going to play for stand in or not.

RUMOR: Tundra Esports might move to NA and will take to their wings the roster of the released TSM players which is now named, Team Undying. While I don't see yet the name replaced for Team Undying into Tundra Esports so, this is still a rumor. What do you think of it? The last team I've known Tundra is remaining only with Topson and if the entire Team Undying going to be taken over by Tundra then it's all out for Topson.

After the 2-peat achievement of Topson, despite one of the best mid laners out there and proven to be a team player. He's like a stray dog in the proscene now. It's entirely different with his former gang with the roster that he's got with OG before. Speaking of him, what team do you think still need a strong mid as him?

Probably, I don't know about OG's story about the Aegis but it could be the same or they're able to keep it. But as we are all expecting, it's a trophy that the champions should keep forever, right? It's a plaque of their success for being the best team for the entire year. Yes, there goes the teams that disbanded after taking the aegis but Team Spirit is still intact but with just 1 changed player.

I think the matter of fact here is the authenticity that it came from Yatoro who's now a 2 time TI champion. It's just sad that the moment that should be theirs with the aegis was taken away, anyway they can just make their own plaques and trophies and display it to their salas or rooms. But I've seen collapse has a better trophy with that brand new car or it was just a photo op.

So basically Valve reused all those aegis every year huh, kinda lame. I thought the winner would be able to keep them but honestly it just doesnt really make sense to keep them either because most team or organization got disbanded in a year or two after they got The Aegis.

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ESL one is coming boys, time to revamp this thread with dota2 betting. Obviously group stage is the worst when it comes to betting especially on bo2 games and its even worse this time because this is the first official high tier tournament in the new season so any shit could have happened in the group stage

This weekend the semi and grand final is happening of the BetBoom Dacha 2023. It was kind of sad to see Furia being eliminated after there strong win against Astralis, but both Spirit and Virtus.pro played much better and deserve to be in the semi finals. The first match today is going to be BetBoom vs Virtus.pro and should be won comfortable by Virtus.pro. They are the much stronger team and didn't lose a match yet in the tournament, for me they are the clear favourite. The second match today is going to be MIBR vs Spirit, where I am going with Spirit to win the match. It's nice to still see a Brazilian team in the tournament, but I think Spirit is much stronger and should win easily. Also, the two teams played against each other during the qualifiers and Spirit won 2-0. The most likely grand final tomorrow is going to be Virtus.pro vs Spirit, where I am going with Virtus.pro to win the tournament. They reached the first place in the group stafge and beat Spirit 2-0 earlier this week already. Should be a good final, which might be going into overtime on one match, but Virtus.pro will win in the end.