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Quote from: jakelyson on November 30, 2022, 06:13:49 PM

Quote from: boyptc on November 30, 2022, 04:42:24 PM

There's an update from the Team Secret's official page that Crystallis is going to stay with them so that rumor is already broken if it's about RTZ going to Team Secret.

I think it's more plausible that he might be picked to go with Team Liquid but if the team itself (Ex-EG) decides to stay together and compete again to the next DPC season then that leaves nothing to Team Liquid.

While PSG.LGD has already parted ways with faith_bian who even said that he'll retire after the TI and xinQ is also out of the team.

That is actually good if they are going to retain Crystallis. He is a good fit to the team and in the short period that this young guy is with the team, they have achieved a lot. They have reached the finals of TI 2022, which is no small feat. Though they did not win the TI, coming from Last Chance Qualifier and finishing #2 in TI is already a great accomplishment. Puppy should keep this team and try again this year. Reso just joined them before the LCQ and they achieved a lot. Maybe they could achieve more if they have more time to play together and develop better chemistry.

Most Team Secret fans want Crystallis out but they're in no position to dictate what the management will decide. Many are forgetting what Crystallis has contributed when they're in the qualifiers. And the same goes for zayac, he's going to stay with Puppey as his duo support.

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Quote from: boyptc on November 30, 2022, 04:42:24 PM

While PSG.LGD has already parted ways with faith_bian who even said that he'll retire after the TI and xinQ is also out of the team.

It is ashamed that this team is already retiring their roster without winning TI. They are very strong and had very good chance of winning TI before but they always come short in the finals. Faith_bian already had a good run and the only missing from his collection is a TI championship with PSG.LGD.

I wonder what PSG.LGD team will look like this coming DPC season.

They're too close with how many TIs, two or three but yet too bad that they've never won a TI. But that's still an achievement that they're always qualified in TI but let's see if this season if they'll be there.

Faith_bian has got his TI with Wings Gaming so it's already good for him to retire to focus on other things.

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Quote from: boyptc on November 30, 2022, 04:42:24 PM

I think it's more plausible that he might be picked to go with Team Liquid but if the team itself (Ex-EG) decides to stay together and compete again to the next DPC season then that leaves nothing to Team Liquid.

Nah, Team Liquid are most likely taking Topson in since their coach already gave it away by dropping a clue and said "top season" in a recent podcast and I'll be surprised if it's not Topson.

Also didn't Fly already mentioned in a clip a few weeks ago that they'll be playing together, the recent change that is likely to happen is between their current offlaner Nightfall since there are some rumors that he'll be playing with some of the previous VP players gpk, Save, Pure, and Illias.

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Quote from: jakelyson on November 30, 2022, 06:13:49 PM

Quote from: boyptc on November 30, 2022, 04:42:24 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on November 28, 2022, 02:42:47 PM

Quote from: boyptc on November 27, 2022, 06:40:18 PM

As for ex-EG roster, it's surely a great investment for the org that will take care of them and they could play around with another coach if they think Bulba isn't that good for them. So, it's going to be 5 ex-EG + a new coach.

There is a rumour that Arteezy is going to be playing in Either Team Liquid or Team Secret next season so there is only small chances for all 5 of them to stick together. Things are not working for them though so there is really no reason for them to stick around each other any longer and also all of them cost alot of money to sign so I doubt a decent organization from NA region would be able to pick them up

There's an update from the Team Secret's official page that Crystallis is going to stay with them so that rumor is already broken if it's about RTZ going to Team Secret.

I think it's more plausible that he might be picked to go with Team Liquid but if the team itself (Ex-EG) decides to stay together and compete again to the next DPC season then that leaves nothing to Team Liquid.

While PSG.LGD has already parted ways with faith_bian who even said that he'll retire after the TI and xinQ is also out of the team.

That is actually good if they are going to retain Crystallis. He is a good fit to the team and in the short period that this young guy is with the team, they have achieved a lot. They have reached the finals of TI 2022, which is no small feat. Though they did not win the TI, coming from Last Chance Qualifier and finishing #2 in TI is already a great accomplishment. Puppy should keep this team and try again this year. Reso just joined them before the LCQ and they achieved a lot. Maybe they could achieve more if they have more time to play together and develop better chemistry.

Quote from: boyptc on November 30, 2022, 04:42:24 PM

While PSG.LGD has already parted ways with faith_bian who even said that he'll retire after the TI and xinQ is also out of the team.

It is ashamed that this team is already retiring their roster without winning TI. They are very strong and had very good chance of winning TI before but they always come short in the finals. Faith_bian already had a good run and the only missing from his collection is a TI championship with PSG.LGD.

I wonder what PSG.LGD team will look like this coming DPC season.

Cant really deny nor oppose about those sayings about being uncrowned kings specially on Ame.LGD is indeed a top tier team and we've seen on how strong they are but they do always choke on semis
which is really sad that lots of fans had been really rooting for them to get an Aegis at least but still ending up on parting ways without achieving such thing. Xinq is looking for another team?
As for Secret then i dont have any doubts and their current roster is indeed a good one and as for RTZ which im not really that a fan of his considering as a pos 1 but it isnt always
that effective specially on game plays.

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Quote from: boyptc on November 30, 2022, 04:42:24 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on November 28, 2022, 02:42:47 PM

Quote from: boyptc on November 27, 2022, 06:40:18 PM

As for ex-EG roster, it's surely a great investment for the org that will take care of them and they could play around with another coach if they think Bulba isn't that good for them. So, it's going to be 5 ex-EG + a new coach.

There is a rumour that Arteezy is going to be playing in Either Team Liquid or Team Secret next season so there is only small chances for all 5 of them to stick together. Things are not working for them though so there is really no reason for them to stick around each other any longer and also all of them cost alot of money to sign so I doubt a decent organization from NA region would be able to pick them up

There's an update from the Team Secret's official page that Crystallis is going to stay with them so that rumor is already broken if it's about RTZ going to Team Secret.

I think it's more plausible that he might be picked to go with Team Liquid but if the team itself (Ex-EG) decides to stay together and compete again to the next DPC season then that leaves nothing to Team Liquid.

While PSG.LGD has already parted ways with faith_bian who even said that he'll retire after the TI and xinQ is also out of the team.

That is actually good if they are going to retain Crystallis. He is a good fit to the team and in the short period that this young guy is with the team, they have achieved a lot. They have reached the finals of TI 2022, which is no small feat. Though they did not win the TI, coming from Last Chance Qualifier and finishing #2 in TI is already a great accomplishment. Puppy should keep this team and try again this year. Reso just joined them before the LCQ and they achieved a lot. Maybe they could achieve more if they have more time to play together and develop better chemistry.

Quote from: boyptc on November 30, 2022, 04:42:24 PM

While PSG.LGD has already parted ways with faith_bian who even said that he'll retire after the TI and xinQ is also out of the team.

It is ashamed that this team is already retiring their roster without winning TI. They are very strong and had very good chance of winning TI before but they always come short in the finals. Faith_bian already had a good run and the only missing from his collection is a TI championship with PSG.LGD.

I wonder what PSG.LGD team will look like this coming DPC season.

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Quote from: arallmuus on November 28, 2022, 02:42:47 PM

Quote from: boyptc on November 27, 2022, 06:40:18 PM

As for ex-EG roster, it's surely a great investment for the org that will take care of them and they could play around with another coach if they think Bulba isn't that good for them. So, it's going to be 5 ex-EG + a new coach.

There is a rumour that Arteezy is going to be playing in Either Team Liquid or Team Secret next season so there is only small chances for all 5 of them to stick together. Things are not working for them though so there is really no reason for them to stick around each other any longer and also all of them cost alot of money to sign so I doubt a decent organization from NA region would be able to pick them up

There's an update from the Team Secret's official page that Crystallis is going to stay with them so that rumor is already broken if it's about RTZ going to Team Secret.

I think it's more plausible that he might be picked to go with Team Liquid but if the team itself (Ex-EG) decides to stay together and compete again to the next DPC season then that leaves nothing to Team Liquid.

While PSG.LGD has already parted ways with faith_bian who even said that he'll retire after the TI and xinQ is also out of the team.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 28, 2022, 11:10:14 AM

This was one of the critical rounds for Heroic on the last map and jabbi played really good there: https://clips.twitch.tv/GloriousRepleteHamsterImGlitch-e3Hk63SNplqrTt4G?tt_content=url&tt_medium=clips_api

broky was chosen for the MVP prize of the tournament.

Faze was able to win the next round and extend the map to overtime after this round. For me, the best play for jabbi was in round 34 when he was jump peaking and fragging 3 faze members in the process. After that round, Heroic ended the game 19-16 in the next round.

Broky's best round was round 20 in inferno with just a deagle. 3 Faze members was down and Heroic was still full members with full health. Heroic made the mistake of rushing broky, and armed with just a deagle, he used the fountain as cover and cleared Heroic. That was an epic turn around, costing Heroic their eco while boosting Faze. Even with just this round, Broky deserves to get the MVP award.

Quote from: emrecemsan on November 28, 2022, 03:43:23 PM

Firstly congratulations to Heroic for winning the Fall Final and earning the ticket for the World Final stage in the BLAST Premier. They were already one of the fascinating teams in the previous Major as they reached the grand final stage. They have made a big progress so far and they continue to add more to that. FaZe is at least better than NaVi these days but they are also in trouble with this level of performance. These two teams should be thankful for joining the World Final anyway.

Faze already have a great year but for some reason, they failed to win lately. They are shaky and inconsistent some times and some other time, they are fragging consistently and very confident.

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Firstly congratulations to Heroic for winning the Fall Final and earning the ticket for the World Final stage in the BLAST Premier. They were already one of the fascinating teams in the previous Major as they reached the grand final stage. They have made a big progress so far and they continue to add more to that. FaZe is at least better than NaVi these days but they are also in trouble with this level of performance. These two teams should be thankful for joining the World Final anyway.

G2 are still not able to reach the level they aim. They decided to make changes in the roster but they couldn't get very good results in big tournaments yet. I think aleksib should have stayed. He was a skilled IGL. Now NIP must be grateful for having him. Since he arrived there his performance has been quite impressive. Although he is an IGL he has made an incredible score contribution as well - especially the one against FaZe with 27 kills recently.

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Quote from: Jossque on November 28, 2022, 12:12:22 PM

Honestly, I expected faze to win, but karrigan and rain had a terrible game, especially karrigan who dragged the team's performance down. As far as I know, Cadian is the igl player of the heroic team, both awper and igl. When you are a two-way player, this contributes a lot. In this way, both as a frag and his contribution to the game is good.We can say that the team is rising in terms of firepower.I think it was a tournament won thanks to Cadian.He was the player who made the difference.

Karrigan is still a good IGL but not so much of a fragger. He needs to learn to use his utilities more rather than trying to outgun their opponents who are better than him in raw aim and skill. Cadian knows his place in the team and he sticks with it quite well. He's not limited to the awp but he can entry with rifles too. Their executes in the site and retake just goes to show how well Heroic studied FaZe leading to their victory in a surprising yet convincing fashion. FaZe needs to have their guns dusted and their skills sharpened if they want to win another tournament in the near future. Ropz just gave his all but it isn't enough to convert it to a win unfortunately.

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Quote from: boyptc on November 27, 2022, 06:40:18 PM

As for ex-EG roster, it's surely a great investment for the org that will take care of them and they could play around with another coach if they think Bulba isn't that good for them. So, it's going to be 5 ex-EG + a new coach.

There is a rumour that Arteezy is going to be playing in Either Team Liquid or Team Secret next season so there is only small chances for all 5 of them to stick together. Things are not working for them though so there is really no reason for them to stick around each other any longer and also all of them cost alot of money to sign so I doubt a decent organization from NA region would be able to pick them up

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 28, 2022, 11:10:14 AM

Blast Fall Final has finished and congrats to Heroic on their great victory against FaZe by 2-1.

It was pretty close on the 3rd map though

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Honestly, I expected faze to win, but karrigan and rain had a terrible game, especially karrigan who dragged the team's performance down. As far as I know, Cadian is the igl player of the heroic team, both awper and igl. When you are a two-way player, this contributes a lot. In this way, both as a frag and his contribution to the game is good.We can say that the team is rising in terms of firepower.I think it was a tournament won thanks to Cadian.He was the player who made the difference.

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Blast Fall Final has finished and congrats to Heroic on their great victory against FaZe by 2-1.

ropz was again the most impressive player for FaZe. He got 26+ frags on each map but this was still not enough for his team to eliminate Heroic. He was chosen as the player of the game by the way but we shouldn't overlook jabbi's great performance also. He was one of the heroes of the series for Heroic. Especially on the decider map he played a key role in this victory. Heroic were really ready for FaZe as they seemed to have learned their lesson from their last loss against them. But FaZe were still showing inconsistencies as a team.

This was one of the critical rounds for Heroic on the last map and jabbi played really good there: https://clips.twitch.tv/GloriousRepleteHamsterImGlitch-e3Hk63SNplqrTt4G?tt_content=url&tt_medium=clips_api

broky was chosen for the MVP prize of the tournament.

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Also, there's a rumor that I've read that the ex-roster of Evil Geniuses, there are 2 organizations that are interested to buy them. The 100 thieves and Cloud 9. Many will like it if Cloud 9 on boards them to their org.

Never heard of 100 thieves again for a long time. It would be interesting how they would handle a dota 2 roster given that most of the teams they held were for FPS games. Ex-EG players are still a good investment IMO, and it'll be no surprise if these two NA orgs would be trying to up each other for them to acquire these experienced guys. Would be nice to see C9's name again in pro Dota. Their name is synonymous to NA for the last decade or so, be it CS or Dota 2.

Honestly, that's the first time of hearing them since they seem from the FPS games. I play FPS but never been into that much of their competitive scene.

As for ex-EG roster, it's surely a great investment for the org that will take care of them and they could play around with another coach if they think Bulba isn't that good for them. So, it's going to be 5 ex-EG + a new coach.

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Quote from: boyptc on November 27, 2022, 04:30:58 PM

Also, there's a rumor that I've read that the ex-roster of Evil Geniuses, there are 2 organizations that are interested to buy them. The 100 thieves and Cloud 9. Many will like it if Cloud 9 on boards them to their org.

Never heard of 100 thieves again for a long time. It would be interesting how they would handle a dota 2 roster given that most of the teams they held were for FPS games. Ex-EG players are still a good investment IMO, and it'll be no surprise if these two NA orgs would be trying to up each other for them to acquire these experienced guys. Would be nice to see C9's name again in pro Dota. Their name is synonymous to NA for the last decade or so, be it CS or Dota 2.

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Congratulations to HEROIC for winning the Blast Premier: Fall Finals 2022

Heroic have come out on the top against the giant in CS, Faze. Faze had an amazing year but they failed in RIO and now they failed to clinch the Finals against the young HEROIC team. The last map was epic and for a moment I thought that Faze have a chance to snatch the victory from behind. First half was all Heroic on CT side, ending in 11-4. But when they switched sides, Faze also demonstrated the best defense and was able to obliterate the big lead of Heroic on the first half. Faze forced an overtime but then Heroic just have the bigger desire for the championship. Thanks to the heroic of Jabbi, they were able to close the game 19-16. Heroic failed to raise the trophy in RIO but they did not disappoint this time. They won it with finesse.

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I've watched some games of the new Fnatic roster and I'm still not yet convinced with those games that they're that strong at all. I guess I need to watch them with the other tier 1 teams in the SEA because it will take time again when they'll be having a match with another team from a different region.

Also, there's a rumor that I've read that the ex-roster of Evil Geniuses, there are 2 organizations that are interested to buy them. The 100 thieves and Cloud 9. Many will like it if Cloud 9 on boards them to their org.

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Quote from: CLS63 on November 27, 2022, 01:35:40 PM

Heroic have made a great start by winning 16-11 on Overpass. Heroic's performance was a great example of consistency on both sides. However FaZe had more difficulty on T side which resulted in a loss for them. ropz made a huge effort again with 26 kills but this wasn't enough. Twistzz had a bad game with only 11 kills. He is normally one of the best fraggers of the team so I expect him to get better on Inferno. The remaining maps might seem to be in favour of FaZe but we never know. Maybe Heroic can manage to defeat FaZe this time.

Faze was able to tie the series. They have good T side against Heroic. Heroic won that side with just a round against Faze but after the switch, Faze totally dominated. The defense of Faze in Inferno is just solid. Heroic cannot win rounds twice in a row. The best round was on round 20 when Faze was on 2 v 5 and Heroic rushed B and rain made an epic defense with a deagle behind the fountain. He got 3 kills and completed the defense. That was very unlikely for Heroic. They are ahead already and should have won that round. Faze have shown why they pick that map. They gave Heroic a clinic.

Next map is Mirage.

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The final series has finally started. The map picks were like this:

Heroic have made a great start by winning 16-11 on Overpass. Heroic's performance was a great example of consistency on both sides. However FaZe had more difficulty on T side which resulted in a loss for them. ropz made a huge effort again with 26 kills but this wasn't enough. Twistzz had a bad game with only 11 kills. He is normally one of the best fraggers of the team so I expect him to get better on Inferno. The remaining maps might seem to be in favour of FaZe but we never know. Maybe Heroic can manage to defeat FaZe this time.

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In the blast premier tournament, a show match was played before the final match. in this match, the blast dream team competed against the danmark squad. the match was played on anubis, which was added to the competitive map pool. the dream team won the middle match. They were already one step ahead because they had more talented players.
Now it's time for the final match to be played. Obviously, it will be a very middle match. It's hard to know who will win. But I see Faze one step ahead.

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Quote from: dothebeats on November 27, 2022, 10:31:18 AM

Grand finals on Heroic vs FaZe today. I'm leaning towards Heroic given how well their run is and just beating Navi in a very convincing fashion. FaZe seemed to still be in hanging on a thread even after their win against NiP. If Ropz hadn't stepped up on the last round in Nuke, things would have been different and NiP would have been here today against Heroic. FaZe better be shutting down cadiaN a lot if they want to win against the Danish roster. Sjuush and jabbi's lurk is also something to be aware of if FaZe wants to get a fighting chance. Broky is consistently putting in the numbers for FaZe; that will help but surely not enough if their executions and timings aren't that good.

Same thoughts. Faze has been shaky this year and that win in Nuke was lucky. It was their pick and they almost got beaten in it. They were lucky they are strong in CT side and was able to overcome 7 rounds deficit, forced an overtime and win in the end.

On the other hand, Heroic is performing consistently. They finished second in RIO and that is a big achievement. I guess they continued their streak here and hopefully they will be able to finish BLAST with the trophy.

I will be betting on heroic the win this game. They are underdog with odds @2.08 while Faze is @1.70. Not a bad odd to bet on.

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Quote from: Balmain on November 27, 2022, 09:35:52 AM

This is exactly the scene I was talking about;

Ropz3k

This was a really epic moment. Just look at from where they made a comeback and eliminated NIP. Cheesy

ropz is still a great fragger and I want to see more of this from him in the future. FaZe will really need this because of being inconsistent for a long time. I hope to see them improving their performance more against Heroic today. Because I'm pretty confident that Heroic would resist much better than NIP. FaZe defeated Heroic in group final before. Heroic might have learned their lesson so FaZe had better have a plan B.

These are the odds for grand final series. In my opinion, Heroic is definitely worth giving it a try at this odd. Because like I said, FaZe is still unreliable. I'd at least be more peaceful by betting on Heroic here. Grin

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