Topic: Esports Prediction & Discussion Thread - page 151. (Read 79032 times)

Those odds look crazy good, PSG's new roster still has a decent set of players coming from well known teams though while Dawn Gaming has the more questionable players coming from Saiyan gaming last season that got eliminated from division 2. I'll tail anyway since I also think the odds are worth betting even though PSG can likely 2-0 here.

Yeah pretty much the average stats of these players whole year round and which events they stand out is taken into consideration in the creation of this top 20 list from HLTV. It has been like this since I first started following professional CS:GO in 2016. YEKINDAR has been very explosive on the last months of 2022, but we haven't seen him popping off before that. He's like that average 0.8 - 1.0 rating player that knows his stuff around the map, knows his role, and can aim pretty well. huNter's placement is indeed somewhat questionable as he isn't that consistent of a player too, and compared to YEKINDAR, he's kind of left behind. I would even go so far as to saying b1t should be ahead of huNter- in the rankings but yeah, the Na'Vi rifler didn't really made that much noise too.

It isn't easy to make this top 20 players list in CS:GO indeed. But the positions of some players really surprise me.

For example YEKINDAR is seen at the 15th position now. rain and huNter have already left him behind. This might be a little unfair to YEKINDAR to be honest. Because he made a huge effort to carry Liquid. He was one of the most remarkable fraggers after making a really big effort. I thought that this effort would deserve more than this but we will see the other names above him. I don't know maybe YEKINDAR's performance while we were close to the end of the year wasn't enough to make the average much better than this.

Dota 2 tournaments and actions are about to be back, on January 5, it's the start of week 1 for the China's DPC region 2023 tour and that's for division 1.

I'm not used to see other teams part of the division 1 there because there have been too many great teams that have been part of it, but it's good to see new teams and names got in.

While for the SEA, January 9 is the start of games for the same tournament but different region.

I am surprised that Jame droppped his ranking from top 10 to bottom 20. Sure, Outsiders was inconsistent this year, but they did won RIO Major. And Jame fragged pretty well, at least from my point of view.


It is the person that dedicates more time in the game that finds those special tricks that could win a game. Experience-wise, Niko still has an advantage over Monesy, but skill-wise, Monesy is starting to take over. He had a monster performance in the latter part of 2022. I am not surprised if Monesy end up in top 10 or top 5 at the most.

Decided to take this bet after I browsed them, odds are just too good to ignore I guess. PSG.LGD totally consist of almost entire different roster and this is their first game ever in an official tournament so they could be sloppy and somehow lose a map to Dawn Gaming. Well its still pretty early but hey its a start as Im pretty bored right now waiting for tournaments to start

Top 20 players continue to be announced in order. 18th place is Spinx, 17th is frozen. When he was transferred to the Spinx Vitality team, I expected a higher performance from him, actually he is a player who gives what is expected, but he has more potential.

Will Boombl4 free offer him a team transfer, I think he deserves another chance to play at tier-1.

I thought like that considering only the individual performances.

Otherwise of course XANTARES wouldn't be at the first position that easy. Eternal Fire have been a really big mess for a long time and there is no Space Soldiers spirit at all. I really miss those days.    This team have a potential though but they have been just bad with strategies. Anyway, the 19th and 20th players have already been announced. They are yuurih and Jame respectively. This might be a hint for us. Because Outsiders won the Major and Jame played great there. However he is still at the last position in this ranking.

Xantares is a good rifle player but I don't think we will see him top10. He has no success this year because as a team, we may not even see him in the top 20. Gradually, the top20 began to be announced, they are announcing the names one by one. I can say for sure that s1mple is in the top three. Twistzz, Ropz I expect either one to be in the top three. M0nesy should be in the top ten. I can say that Xantares is a player in decline due to his recent decisions. It's hard to understand why tier-A doesn't prefer a team anyway.

NiKo is still a solid rifler yeah. But it is like there has been some drop in his performance level in the last month of the year especially. I don't know if this can push him a little down in the list.

I have seen a clip of m0nesy while he was teaching NiKo some trick he found on a map.    It feels different to see m0nesy teaching some good things to his bigger friends than himself. I mean NiKo is normally much more experienced than m0nesy when it comes to professional tournaments. But CS:GO is of course not like a game that you need to be very experienced by playing for professional teams to learn new things. It is all about practice and trying to discover something new after new updates especially.

Just a few more days to go and we're in 2023 where full of actions and DPC season is back by that time.

The change of roster for most teams especially in the SEA region, we'll see those new rosters and teams that we're hyped when they've announced their roster changes.

China region is one of the toughest region and looking at the teams for the upcoming DPC season, I'm not convinced since many teams don't have that known players. But I know all of them won't be there if they're not good as the others.

It's just all about my familiarity to them but I'll definitely watch most of their games.

Anyway, Christmas has passed, still Merry Christmas and Happy New year everyone.

S1mple remains as the top AWPer that's for sure, though you are right with m0nesy coming close to him as the kid proves that he's an extremely gifted player that can play under pressure at top tier games. For the best rifler/entry fragger, I do have a lot in mind. Xantares sure is one on the top, but NiKo is still there among the best riflers that 2022 had. Lots of finals wherein NiKo proved that he's still a force to be reckoned with handling the AKs or the M4s against solid teams. Jks can be in the top 20 list for sure, but he's not that consistently good so there's that.


Ahh, Chinese dota scene. They are the ones kicking off the DPC tour in 2023 and I don't think I have the guts nor the interest to watch these games. So many times I've been burned by PSG.LGD and Team Aster on Tier 2 DPC runs on what seems to be a walk in the park for them. Lots of times when they could just have ended the game but no, they still have the prove something on that game that costs them the whole series or costs them the map. If you aren't that much familiar with the Chinese dota scene, I will suggest you to skip all of their events as much as you can. It's a whole different region out there and PSG.LGD's ranking in dota seems to be thrown off the bus when they're matched against another Chinese team.

There are no big tournaments happening right now, it's been a bit quite with good esports games happening over Christmas and between the year. Probably most gamblers where focusing on the worldcup and not on other sports. At least in China are some Dota matches being played in January with the DPC CN 2023 Tour 1 coming up. It's all of the big chinese teams competing for a 200,000 USD prize pool. On January 5th we have the first round starting with PSG LGD playing against Dawn Gaming which is going to be a pretty one sided match and should be a good win for PSG LGD. EHOME is playing against Invictus Gaming which is going to be a very close match in my opinion, I will go with Invictus Gaming for that one. On the 6th  Team Aster is going to play against Knights which is another save bet and Team Aster should be winning this one.

Being the coach of Nigma.Galaxy is the best thing that he can ever do for the team. He should let someone who's younger but has got tremendous experience. No doubt and argument about his experience but he has achieved a lot already.

He's just going to be look like Dendi who's also trying hard but they've got reasons for it and it might be all about having fun. Dendi's definition of fun is like that and to keep competing.

But if Kuro's reason is to be competitive, he has to consider himself out of the roster.

I have remembered Puppey's enchantress, Pup is also quite old but still doing it very well as we've seen for the past TI. But Kuro is just on another level and not as high as before.

You're right about acknowledging him as he's already falling off and about his performance dropping a lot.

Yeah, let's hope that he'll recognize it and considers it because he should notice that the fall of the team is because of him not giving way.

https://www.hltv.org/news/35306/top-20-players-of-2022-introduction

There is a top 20 players list to be announced soon in CS:GO.

I'm putting XANTARES and s1mple to the top already.    As for a comparison between them I think XANTARES is one step ahead. He is like a beast really. Years are coming and going but XANTARES is still able to maintain his quality. Everyone knows "XANTARES peek" very well, right? So I think he is the best rifler as well currently. s1mple seems like he has lost a little from his skills recently but he is still such an amazing player of course. But in time, I think m0nesy has the potential to leave s1mple behind as an AWPer in the future. m0nesy has been under the spotlight for some time too as you know.

Most heroes played, on what efficacy anyway? Most of the heroes that he's played on a high level, he hasn't been very effective with save for the Enchantress that everyone and their mother knows how to use and knows how to dominate lanes with. Also, even when he's not using Enchantress, a support known to transition to a core somewhat in mid - late game, he's hogging the relatively safer farms on the map when it's supposed to be taken over by their 4 or their offlane. Game-sense wise and draft-wise, the dude's already falling off. It's not enough that you play many heroes in the big stage, the question is how well and effective you play those for them to be considered a hero in your hero pool.



Exactly. Even Fear, one of the most mechanically gifted carry to ever play the game recognized that he's getting old, and after their win in 2015, he knew that his time playing this game professionally in a serious level is over, and he stepped down and began exploring coaching options for EG and some other teams. There are some stints of him still playing professionally but without success, and once he recognized that he stepped down and began being an analyst/coach for some teams and that's where he shines right now. Hopefully Kuro recognizes this and starts leaning towards just coaching the team and letting other young talent play and hopefully hone their skills and talents.

Recently I've watched the game between the Nigma Galaxy vs Entity well in the first game it's all smoothly with the nigma because of the dominating with the lesh and having a good backup with GH as always but in the second run they kept using the same hero as is of course and mostly it happens if you win the first draft you will keep stick with it, but of course having a proper execution and greediness makes a comeback to the game as usual they keep greedy with sumail and that's the reason they lose the game too much confident with the blood stone and late realization of BKB makes them lose this series.

I also believe Kuro has to switch his role at this point of his career. He should either manage his own team or become a coach. He is already 30 years old, and his mechanical skill will get slower and will not be able to compete against young players. Those young players will outplay him at this point in his career. His experience and knowledge of the game will best serve him if he uses it as a coach or team manager or owner. He should let the young ones play for his position and just train them.

I bet to differ about kuro having low hero pool, in fact, for the past TIs he's got the record of having the most played for different heroes.

But I do get that he's on a different level now, not that positive level and I agree to you that he shouldn't be playing anymore. He's better to switch into coaching rather than playing.

There are other talented players that can play for him as a pos 5 but can't deny and argue about his experience. However, a change and push for him is a must if they want to see the team thrive.

Well Nigma ended up losing two maps horribly against HellRaisers, I shouldnt have done this silly bet. Anyway, the schedule for this tournament is a bit messed up as it kept on getting changed but Nigma will be playing their next game against Entity in two more hours so good chance to make some money by betting against Nigma I guess