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legendary
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Yeah with PSG.LGD in this current form, RNG +1.5 x1.4 odds isn't that bad and they'll go lower as we get closer to the match, but i'll probably go with over maps

Yeah in the mean time I probably think its good idea to bet on Xtreme Gaming remaining games because it just seems to me that they are probably going to top the current DPC with PSG.LGD out of form. Abit wild as usual so taking outright winner or taking over 2.5 maps just to be on the safe side could be a better option for this game



Anyway, I also nailed this baddie earlier today. Kinda stupid to be honest but hey it works this time.

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There were no very important matches today. Tomorrow the iem cologne play-in matches start. I will be anxiously waiting for the match times. Among the first matches, there are 2 matches whose results I am curious to see.
The first is 00Nation-Astralis and the second is Mibr-Movistar Riders. I think both matches will be more enjoyable than the other matches, with closer scores.
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Their next game will be against RNG so, if this theory is correct, LGD will lose so that RNG can secure 500 dpc pts, or LGD could beat RNG which would help Vici Gaming get more dpc points, hmm

Im not sure about this but as of now their current position is in risk for bottom 2 as well so they might win another game. Considering on taking RNG +1.5 for the next one though but we'll see how the standing goes as their next game will be on 10th July so there are 3 other games before theirs and the standing might changes in between that
Yeah with PSG.LGD in this current form, RNG +1.5 x1.4 odds isn't that bad and they'll go lower as we get closer to the match, but i'll probably go with over maps

But those plays really aren't satisfying and it feels like it wasn't them that have played. Anyway, let's just give it the benefit of the doubt and look forward to other games for other teams and regions.
I'm looking forward to Team Aster v Xtreme tomorrow, it's pretty much a Final for both teams. And Vici Gaming will be playing their own final against Aster.Aries. Huge day in DPC CN
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No doubt that Xtreme gaming is strong but with the looks of the play, they really are suspicious. Maybe it's like allowing other teams to get on those points and it's okay for them to lose it as they give that opportunity and slot to a strong team too.
ah, helping their fellow countrymen you say? Yeah, that could be it, such a drop in performance isn't normal tbh. Their next game will be against RNG so, if this theory is correct, LGD will lose so that RNG can secure 500 dpc pts, or LGD could beat RNG which would help Vici Gaming get more dpc points, hmm
That's just a guess.

And it will be in 6 days from now until we see that theory or guess is right. I have nothing against them as I'm one of those fans that really look up in this region, well all regions honestly.

But those plays really aren't satisfying and it feels like it wasn't them that have played. Anyway, let's just give it the benefit of the doubt and look forward to other games for other teams and regions.
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tomorrow start the Intel Extreme Masters Season XVII - Cologne very nice competition
and we will see realy good teams the first math start with MOUZ vs paiN Gaming im think MOUZ will win.
Heroic vs Sprout im im sorry for sprout they play vs the one of the best teams in the world hard to win think they will lose.
Team spirit vs Complexity Gaming Spirit should win without problems.
legendary
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ah, helping their fellow countrymen you say? Yeah, that could be it, such a drop in performance isn't normal tbh.

Well yeah if they could help like another 3 teams from CN region to get to top 12 then that would be 5 atleast CN team on TI, including them and another one from Region qualifier later ( not to mention about the wildcard qualifier as well ).

Their next game will be against RNG so, if this theory is correct, LGD will lose so that RNG can secure 500 dpc pts, or LGD could beat RNG which would help Vici Gaming get more dpc points, hmm

Im not sure about this but as of now their current position is in risk for bottom 2 as well so they might win another game. Considering on taking RNG +1.5 for the next one though but we'll see how the standing goes as their next game will be on 10th July so there are 3 other games before theirs and the standing might changes in between that
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^sometimes LGD doing that weird move on Majors qualifiers tournament to give way to other chinese team. They dominate most of the chinese DPC points event which is the reason they got all the points and not evenly distributed on other chinese team.

I really doubt that other chinese team has a chance to win on Arlington Majors besides LGD since team from WEU, EEU and America is clearly improved and level there games that can rival again chinese dota.
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ah, helping their fellow countrymen you say? Yeah, that could be it, such a drop in performance isn't normal tbh. Their next game will be against RNG so, if this theory is correct, LGD will lose so that RNG can secure 500 dpc pts, or LGD could beat RNG which would help Vici Gaming get more dpc points, hmm
I agree it's concerning, it'd be better for them to maintain their current form like what OG is doing atm than to regress at end of the tour because after this it'll be the major then a month and a half break before TI starts. I'm also expecting LGD to lose their last two series but that would mean a possible tiebreaker for relegation if that actually happens.

I thought nobody is going to talk about the current questionable performance of LGD. LGD is currently top 1 in DPC points and is already secured a place in TI even if they will not join this last major in Arlington. So this is indeed very very surprising from LGD right from the start. We can take a look at LGD's only two victories and they are against no-hoper teams.

   

Looking at the current overall DPC rankings. Only LGD and Team Aster are in the top 12. But Team Aster's 640 points is not enough to qualify in the TI. Team Aster needs to participate in Arlington in order to gather more points. EHOME is actually ranked 31 with 51 points. The rest have zero points at all.

I expect LGD not to qualify in Arlington. So they will lose its last 2 remaining games or maybe they can win the last one so long as they are already sure not to enter the top 4 once this elimination is done. It won't be logical to say that these Chinese teams are collaborating each other because they could have pushed Team Aster to top this eliminators in order to gather 1,140 points which is like over 90% chance to enter the TI. So most likely it is only LGD's doing something weird to let the other 4 Chinese teams to qualify in Arlington and gather points for the TI.       
legendary
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I will now post what I think about the League of Legends Champions Korea LCK This coming July 6

NS RedForce VS kt Rolster

Stake odds for this game are 2.04 for Nongshim RedForce while 1.72 for kt Rolster, Nongshim RedForce lost to Damwon, yesterday while kt Rolster won their game against Hanwha Life Esports, if NS RedForce would lose this game this will be their 5th lost out of 7 games, while kt Rolster have the same situations as NS RedForce, they also have 4 losses out of 6 games, so this game could be close, but I think kt Rolster have a huge advantage over RedForce, and I am interested with their team, but their performance is still lacking, but for this game against RedForce I think they may truly shine, RedForce may win a 1 point game on them but in the end, I think kt Rolster will win this,


Freecs VS Brion Blade

Stake odds for this game are 1.50 for Freecs while 2.49 for Brion Esports, Right now Brion Blade has 6 losses and doesn't have any wins yet, while Freecs have 4 losses and have 2 wins against Hanwha Life Esports and T1 and I think that their win against T1 was just a lucky one, but Freecs surely know for their effort in the LOL scene and I think their strategy was really always read for T1 and for this game I think that Brion Blade will have a new lost record and so Freecs was my pick,

legendary
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ah, helping their fellow countrymen you say? Yeah, that could be it, such a drop in performance isn't normal tbh. Their next game will be against RNG so, if this theory is correct, LGD will lose so that RNG can secure 500 dpc pts, or LGD could beat RNG which would help Vici Gaming get more dpc points, hmm
I agree it's concerning, it'd be better for them to maintain their current form like what OG is doing atm than to regress at end of the tour because after this it'll be the major then a month and a half break before TI starts. I'm also expecting LGD to lose their last two series but that would mean a possible tiebreaker for relegation if that actually happens.

they looked lost against FNC too
well, two lossess in a row, this 2 week break coming in clutch for G2, tbh
Yup, much needed break for them to shake off those two losses.

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If BIG are anywhere near what the performed in the Roobet Cup, I'll definitely put them in the conversation for potential winners too
i wouldn't get my hopes up. It's a LAN event, BIG won't have that online lucky buff to delete opponents... They'll reach the group stage for sure because even if they lose their opening match or the round 2 match, there's a big chance they'll face one of the BR teams in the Play-In which should be a super easy win to qualify to the next stage. But, after that, they'll choke 🤭

No doubt that Xtreme gaming is strong but with the looks of the play, they really are suspicious. Maybe it's like allowing other teams to get on those points and it's okay for them to lose it as they give that opportunity and slot to a strong team too.
ah, helping their fellow countrymen you say? Yeah, that could be it, such a drop in performance isn't normal tbh. Their next game will be against RNG so, if this theory is correct, LGD will lose so that RNG can secure 500 dpc pts, or LGD could beat RNG which would help Vici Gaming get more dpc points, hmm
legendary
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Movistar riders managed to beat the outsiders, albeit with difficulty. Outsiders fell behind in team performance on their chosen overpass map. When we look at the statistics of the Overpass map, we see that the movistar riders team is better. It's the same on the Vertigo map. Overall, both teams were not bad. Movistar riders qualified for the esl conference tournament.
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easy money, easy life. LGD have been horrendous lately, are they actually getting outplayed in every series or do they not care about the dpc points and qualifying to arlington Major? they went from stomping-every-series tier to dogshit tier so fast  Grin quite suspicious if you ask me
I thought that I'm the only one having that feeling that they've been like giving away games to their opponents. They don't care about DPCs anymore because they're secured for the TI.

That's why whether they get in or not for this Arlington major, it won't matter to them because they're already in and just waiting for the day of The International.

No doubt that Xtreme gaming is strong but with the looks of the play, they really are suspicious. Maybe it's like allowing other teams to get on those points and it's okay for them to lose it as they give that opportunity and slot to a strong team too.
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By the way the IEM Cologne 2022 tournament is closing in on us now. In two days we are going to start with play-in games first. The first eight teams of this elimination round are going to join the main tournament. Even in this stage there are really big teams like BIG, Heroic, Vitality and some more. The favourites wouldn't make a mistake I guess. But for the main tournament the biggest favourites are FaZe and Natus Vincere for me. C9 are the champions of the last IEM tournament in Dallas however this time I don't expect them to maintain a streak.

I also think vitality, heroic and big will get tickets to iem cologne. Apart from these 3 teams, the teams that I think will get the ticket are as follows; Spirit, Mouz, Astralis, 00Nation and Mibr. The matches will start on Tuesday. I am eagerly waiting for that day. I enjoy watching more in big tournaments. Maybe a team other than the ones I mentioned may surprise.
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By the way the IEM Cologne 2022 tournament is closing in on us now. In two days we are going to start with play-in games first. The first eight teams of this elimination round are going to join the main tournament. Even in this stage there are really big teams like BIG, Heroic, Vitality and some more. The favourites wouldn't make a mistake I guess. But for the main tournament the biggest favourites are FaZe and Natus Vincere for me. C9 are the champions of the last IEM tournament in Dallas however this time I don't expect them to maintain a streak.

If BIG are anywhere near what the performed in the Roobet Cup, I'll definitely put them in the conversation for potential winners too, and If the odds are worth it, I might as well put a little on that. NaVi for me would be the biggest favorites with s1mple seemingly having a good time.

The only down part of the tournament imo might be how teams would adjust to the event being an offline one and without live audience, I really don't know the details but from the commentary after the Roobet cup finals, the hosts were talking about the technical differences between the online and offline CS:GO and it effects on the players.
legendary
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By the way the IEM Cologne 2022 tournament is closing in on us now. In two days we are going to start with play-in games first. The first eight teams of this elimination round are going to join the main tournament. Even in this stage there are really big teams like BIG, Heroic, Vitality and some more. The favourites wouldn't make a mistake I guess. But for the main tournament the biggest favourites are FaZe and Natus Vincere for me. C9 are the champions of the last IEM tournament in Dallas however this time I don't expect them to maintain a streak.
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Outsiders struggled a bit but managed to eliminate their opponent. The Rare Atom team played a good match. But they couldn't win.

I thought the Movistar Riders - Sprout match would be played on 3 maps. But the movistar riders team played a dominant game. Movistar riders played as if they had picked the inferno. when in fact it was sprout who picked the inferno. Poor play on their chosen map contributed to their defeat.

The final match is between outsiders and movistar riders. I think Outsiders will beat their opponent and win a ticket to the esl conference tournament.
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ex-MAD Lions continue to be Eternal Fire's nightmare. Today they had a BO3 game against each other in the Elisa Invitational Spring 2022 tournament. Eternal Fire were invited to this round while their opponent reached this stage by eliminating Apeks. Before this game, Eternal Fire lost to them two times by 2-0 and 2-1. Things didn't change here too and Eternal Fire lost again by 2-1. They are out of the tournament now. Maybe this isn't one of the biggest tournaments but they really need to get better as soon as possible. They have a good potential and they should benefit from that.

In Ex-ML, woro2k gets at least 20 kills every match. This player was once known for cheating. There are a lot of videos circulating on the internet. Incredibly, he still continues his e-sports career. Ex-ML also has one or two other names besides woro2k playing very strangely. One of them is redstar and the other is jL. As far as I know, redstar was kicked out of the faceit pro league. They are not clean and good players but they managed to beat fnatic yesterday. And today they beat eternal fire.

I really agree with you about it. When I learned about woro2k was a cheater but still playing in official tournaments like this one I was surprised a lot. I really don't know how they can give this kind of players another chance. If woro2k cheated in another game then it wouldn't be a problem but he did it in CS GO. For example as far as I know s1mple also cheated in CS 1.6 but he was lucky that CS GO was released and he got his second chance by this. He has a pure talent now though.

Yes, that's right, S1mple used cheats in Cs 1.6, he was suspended, but he was given another chance. It is said that this chance was given to the good man now, but he was young at that time, but it should be seen as normal for him to attempt such things because of his ambition, and Valve did so, now he is by far the best fps player in the world. Once upon a time, there was a team called Optic when a player was caught cheating on the game, and I still remember this incident. I don't know what happened afterwards, like what kind of sanction was applied.
legendary
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Here is the result for the League of Legends Champions Korea games today

Damwon Gaming VS Nongshim Redforce SCORE 2 - 0 - WIN

Just like what I thought the game would be Damwon Gaming really obliterated Nongshim Redforce and it was a one-sided game, Damwon Gaming every stat on game 1 was in their favor, from Gold they have 60.8k while NS Redforce only have 47.1k, on Kills Damwon got 6 while NS Redforce got 3, and Damwon have 11 towers while Redforce only got 2, winning game 1, while in-game 2 Damwon Gaming had done it again this time with 53.4k gold, 19 kills, 9 Towers, while NS Redforce only got 41.1k gold, 6 kills, and 1 tower, pretty much this kind of play is in a different league, and NS Redforce is not really the worth,


kt Rolster VS Hanwha Life Esports SCORE 2 - 0 - WIN

Just like Damwon, when I saw this fight I am sure that kt Rolster will dominate the game and I was not wrong, kt Rolster dominated every fabric, Game 1 was really solid Hanwha Life still kept the good fight but they were no match for Rolsters wrath, the game stat has said it all, game 1 kt Rolster has 60.9 gold, 14 Kills, and 9 towers, while Hanwha Life Esports, has 50.6k gold only, 6 kills, and 2 towers, while on Game 2 kt Rolster got 61.5k gold, 17 kills, and 11 towers, while Hanwha Life Esports has 61.5k gold, 17 kills and 11 towers, while Hanwha has 46.9k gold, 1 kill, and 1 tower, pretty much kt Rolster had ended up winning a one-sided game,

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So here is the thing, I know most of us feels that the china region DPC is pretty sussy with PSG.LGD not owning the tournament but I definitely cant hold my urge to not bet on this huge match tomorrow.

PSG.LGD vs Xtreme Gaming

Taking classic outright winner for the game, I really hope PSG.LGD will choke on this game somehow. They've done that on the other game so yeah good chances that they might do it again tomorrow

https://i.imgur.com/rAZgyDX.png
easy money, easy life. LGD have been horrendous lately, are they actually getting outplayed in every series or do they not care about the dpc points and qualifying to arlington Major? they went from stomping-every-series tier to dogshit tier so fast  Grin quite suspicious if you ask me

and i'm off to a bad start today, wasted a free bet adding JDG, their 6-0 winning streak comes to an end after losing to one of the worst teams in the summer split  Roll Eyes
I feel you with that loss as this week of League is just filled with so many upsets. Yesterday i'm still annoyed with how G2 lost against Mad Lions.  Tongue
they looked lost against FNC too
well, two lossess in a row, this 2 week break coming in clutch for G2, tbh
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