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Later for the grand finals, i'm taking ENCE +1.5 the handicap is just too good even though Faze got the harder matchup on their way through this finals I think it'll be a close one given their last meeting ended up going through all three maps.

Quote from: arallmuus on April 09, 2022, 04:10:25 PM

It was close on the 2nd map though, Nigma owned the game but somehow Entity turned it all around making the game 2-0

Somewhat close but unfortunate that they couldn't close out the game in time and capitalize on the lead they gained during the mid game and when Entity manage to stall the game even further it just spelled trouble for them as their composition started falling off during the late game.

Quote from: arallmuus on April 09, 2022, 04:10:25 PM

Im not sure about Secret but Nigma is going down to 2nd division for real because they just lost another game today. Losing 5 games in a row and their next two games will be Secret and Liquid so yeah I honestly dont think they can win. This is probably the worst result ever for those 4 original Nigma players ever since their days together in Liquid

I agree there's no way Team Secret would get relegated, right now they're at the bottom of the standings just above Team Nigma but they have one of the easier matchups as they'll be playing against Team Nigma and Entity.

Also, it felt like Team Nigma is only playing just to secure the money at this point since their performance really fell off even though they did well during that one lan tournament.

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Quote from: STT on April 09, 2022, 08:07:10 AM

Dont think I can believe Furia beats Faze, I must be biased as it appear viable. 3x is tempting, maybe a live bet is more reasonable. I'll just put down 3 maps happens & multi a small bet Furia plus 3 maps on Nip game.

i also lost my bet, didn't expect the day of clean 2-0's
Furia tho were 13-5 in map1 and 13-8 in map2 and ended up losing both,, weak mentality from Furia when under pressure or Faze showing mental fortitude in critical rounds? Lips sealed

whatever, FaZe should win the rematch vs. Ence tomorrow, it's a BO5

but my sunday betslip will go to G2 in the LEC Finals. If there's a time to back G2, it's right now during a win streak with their last three series finishing 3-0. Not sure why the bookies favor Rogue so much, but don't mind me just gonna take that G2 ml @2.5 (:

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Exactly. Brame and Entity deserves on the Division 1 this time around compared to the poor performance of Nigma and Secret. They have a very bad game on this DPC tournament that even Division 2 teams can easily beat them. I believe they need to go on lower division to train again and boost there morale. It seems that they are just on Division because of there team credentials.

Im not sure about Secret but Nigma is going down to 2nd division for real because they just lost another game today. Losing 5 games in a row and their next two games will be Secret and Liquid so yeah I honestly dont think they can win. This is probably the worst result ever for those 4 original Nigma players ever since their days together in Liquid

Quote from: ralle14 on April 09, 2022, 12:50:09 AM

The odds are too low for +1.5 i'm taking over 2.5 @1.92 as Team Entity's trend still goes on with 3 out of 4 series going to the distance, my only worry is the drafting on the side of Team Nigma which could potentially lead to a sweep.

It was close on the 2nd map though, Nigma owned the game but somehow Entity turned it all around making the game 2-0

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Quote from: boltz on April 09, 2022, 08:30:56 AM

Liquid vs Tundra Dota2

Can Liquid take some revenge against Tundra ? I think Matumbamann has something to prove against Tundra and he will.

Series is best of 3 and taking over2.5 maps as a bet looks attractive but I'm skeptical about Tundra winning a map today.

In this match up both teams were beat by the legendary Team OG and even though Matumbaman is in the side of Liquid still we know the capabilities of the team Tundra imagine how they beat the Team Spirit in their previous match at the same time overcome with the team secret but again be careful because sometimes tundra makes a choke like last time they match with the OG they got overconfident makes a 4 man bought back and becomes dieback due to being greedy. With this bet, i guess Tundra learn from their mistake i still make a risk with Tundra.

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Quote from: boltz on April 09, 2022, 08:30:56 AM

Liquid vs Tundra Dota2

Can Liquid take some revenge against Tundra ? I think Matumbamann has something to prove against Tundra and he will.

Series is best of 3 and taking over2.5 maps as a bet looks attractive but I'm skeptical about Tundra winning a map today.

I got Liquid +1.5 and with the way things are going, it has a good chance of hitting. Tundra getting good at the early game but losing their composure in the mid game is just nuts. This recent DPC season I have high hopes for them, but apparently they are showing signs of slowing down after that clean sweep from OG. This game 2 skiter is randomly pressing BKBs and that fight at the bottom just made their early rosh worthless. Idk what's happening, but it's not going in favor of Tundra so far.

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Quote from: arallmuus on April 05, 2022, 05:59:40 PM

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Did you guys see how Secret lost second map? Last resort antimage gamble with selling half of his items for building damage items and then gambling on ancient rush. I would have enjoyed that thoroughly if I hadn't had this ticket.

The ticket was so close, dang. Watched that game and its just feels weird that Secret lose on the 2nd map. Sumail was literally carrying the whole team on the 2nd map only to ended up losing because they decided to gamble on the last base race. I guess both Nigma and Secret will be going down the drain and play on 2nd division next season ? Tongue

Exactly. Brame and Entity deserves on the Division 1 this time around compared to the poor performance of Nigma and Secret. They have a very bad game on this DPC tournament that even Division 2 teams can easily beat them. I believe they need to go on lower division to train again and boost there morale. It seems that they are just on Division because of there team credentials.

Who is watching Asia DPC tournament match between Exe and Boom. It seems like Boom is now showing weakness with a lot of greedy play coming from FBZ.

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Liquid vs Tundra Dota2

Can Liquid take some revenge against Tundra ? I think Matumbamann has something to prove against Tundra and he will.

Series is best of 3 and taking over2.5 maps as a bet looks attractive but I'm skeptical about Tundra winning a map today.

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Dont think I can believe Furia beats Faze, I must be biased as it appear viable. 3x is tempting, maybe a live bet is more reasonable. I'll just put down 3 maps happens & multi a small bet Furia plus 3 maps on Nip game.

Noticed Smooya is playing at the moment, one of the worlds best players and both these teams are rank 80 or lower. Kinda funny, so long as he is getting paid hopefully he is happy there - https://www.twitch.tv/esl_csgob

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on April 08, 2022, 04:37:46 PM

everyone gets a winner winner chicken dinner!

The third map was so sweaty I thought my bet was dead when Astralis was leading 5-1 but i'm surprised that it ended up 7-8 in favor of Furia then that flawless CT side from Furia to seal the deal.

Quote from: Coin_trader on April 08, 2022, 11:05:23 PM

It’s normal that bookie will favor Entity despite of Nigma experience since they are basing there odds on there individual stats on this tournament. So far Nigma is the last place and didn’t get a single win to any team while Entity 2-0 Brame on there match. But I still respect Nigma so I will go +1.5 to them together with Liquid. I believe they can get a single game on there match since this round robin will gonna end soon and they need to get a win to avoid elimination especially for Nigma. Cheesy

The odds are too low for +1.5 i'm taking over 2.5 @1.92 as Team Entity's trend still goes on with 3 out of 4 series going to the distance, my only worry is the drafting on the side of Team Nigma which could potentially lead to a sweep.

Then on the other series, i'll go with Team Liquid both teams looking shaky but I prefer Team Liquid due to the value and I didn't like the way Tundra handled their series against OG.

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Quote from: arallmuus on April 08, 2022, 06:14:12 PM

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Liquid vs Tundra

Nigma vs Entity

Tundra seems to be the favourite to win but lets shift some focus onto Nigma because if they lose another game then its confirmed that they are going down to the 2nd division. Bookies are even favouring Entity to win against Nigma although Entity is currently on the 7th rank as well so generally speaking, both teams are in bad shape right now

It’s normal that bookie will favor Entity despite of Nigma experience since they are basing there odds on there individual stats on this tournament. So far Nigma is the last place and didn’t get a single win to any team while Entity 2-0 Brame on there match. But I still respect Nigma so I will go +1.5 to them together with Liquid. I believe they can get a single game on there match since this round robin will gonna end soon and they need to get a win to avoid elimination especially for Nigma. Cheesy

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Liquid vs Tundra

Nigma vs Entity

Tundra seems to be the favourite to win but lets shift some focus onto Nigma because if they lose another game then its confirmed that they are going down to the 2nd division. Bookies are even favouring Entity to win against Nigma although Entity is currently on the 7th rank as well so generally speaking, both teams are in bad shape right now

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Quote from: ralle14 on April 08, 2022, 02:54:52 AM

Then in the first series i'll go with Furia @1.66 hopefully they don't let me down, whenever I back these guys they usually fail to deliver but I prefer them over Astralis as I think there's still something lacking on the side of Astralis at the moment.

everyone gets a winner winner chicken dinner!

same plan tomorrow, over maps FaZe v Furia in a single. Also, a multi with +1.5 Furia and G2 +1.5 v Fnatic

Quote from: STT on April 08, 2022, 02:31:43 PM

Navi really doing badly on Dust2, normally I agree they'd win but its also a map not like most with strats going out the window at times. Navi is slightly under the weather at present is my default opinion for now, distracted probably. They could lose this in just 2 maps which is really bad for them even if Faze are somehow the #2 in the world right now.
I said lots of times before the last major Navi deserved and would likely win it and they proved it, sad they are not near to that level now imo.

despite FaZe #2 rank, this still feels like a massive upset, mainly because it was 2-0... ugh, i almost took FaZe to win last night but i hesitated,, i said those odds were too good and still didn't believe in Karrigan Cheesy

FaZe v FURIA will be a bloodbath though, both teams are in their peak performance right now, feels like whoever wins here will probably win the Grand final, ENCE and NIP are not on the same level as the other two teams, imo

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Navi really doing badly on Dust2, normally I agree they'd win but its also a map not like most with strats going out the window at times. Navi is slightly under the weather at present is my default opinion for now, distracted probably. They could lose this in just 2 maps which is really bad for them even if Faze are somehow the #2 in the world right now.
I said lots of times before the last major Navi deserved and would likely win it and they proved it, sad they are not near to that level now imo.

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Quote from: dothebeats on April 08, 2022, 03:18:32 AM

With the way they are playing, my take is they can carry this momentum forward. Ammar is the only weak link I'm currently seeing for OG. That kid is good, no doubt, ut his extreme cockiness and inconsistency makes the ordeal really painful for the team on games where he is expected to deliver. I do like the fact that he's a flexible player that can do mid with Huskar, and it helps when they are outdrafted on the first picking phase, but then again Huskar isn't an all-rounder mid laner that can carry in mid-late game.

Personally, if Ammar can be consistent with his performance, this OG lineup can even win majors or even TI. Honestly Taiga is what saves Ammar on losing the lane with the dude's constant application of pressure on the 5 support which isolates the carry of the enemy.

Glad that you notice too the inconsistency of Ammar. He still a kid and probably still carry his attitude during his pubs days which he is know for cockiness yet a real master on his hero pool. Ammar has a small hero pool so if OG enemy really wants to defeat them, banning Ammar hero is enough to shut them down. But I like the way ATF play on this current DPC tournament because he is now disciplined especially on his setup and itemization. He is not building anymore troll item when they are leading the game.

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Quote from: dothebeats on April 08, 2022, 03:18:32 AM

With the way they are playing, my take is they can carry this momentum forward. Ammar is the only weak link I'm currently seeing for OG. That kid is good, no doubt, ut his extreme cockiness and inconsistency makes the ordeal really painful for the team on games where he is expected to deliver. I do like the fact that he's a flexible player that can do mid with Huskar, and it helps when they are outdrafted on the first picking phase, but then again Huskar isn't an all-rounder mid laner that can carry in mid-late game.

Personally, if Ammar can be consistent with his performance, this OG lineup can even win majors or even TI. Honestly Taiga is what saves Ammar on losing the lane with the dude's constant application of pressure on the 5 support which isolates the carry of the enemy.

Agree. They're doing really well so especially Taiga, his performance has been stellar so far and has really helped in making plays for the entire team. And as you have said, he's really helping Ammar in the laning phase, his decision-making really keeps the pressure on the enemy team which gives space for Ammar to breathe every now and then. Yuragi, Misha, and BZM have been doing really well consistently, I don't think there's much to say about them tbh.

Quote from: Coin_trader on April 07, 2022, 04:23:07 AM

I really understand your point because all his bushwhack is pretty on point to catch enemy and save team mates on game 1. His game 2 hoodwink is the best since his bushwhack is perfect setup to kunka combo skill which surely obliterate enemy that they will caught. The final clash on the river is the best when they the turn around clash while they are chasing by all the member of GG. He caught 4 hero of GG that completely erase when kunka benefits on that setup..

Though tbf, I'd fault Gladiators for those setups. IIRC they kept on trying to burst one hero but ended up being set up by Taiga then followed up by Yuragi.

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Anyone watched that OG v GG? Casters were only noticing how well bzm and Yuragi played but man they are missing out big time on Taiga. That dude is so good as a pos 4 even way back on his days in Liquid. His subtle setups in teamfights make the fights look easy, especially during that game 2 against GG. Always knows when to throw his skills and when to disengage. It will be a shame to see him not get many wins with his exemplary performance on this DPC season.

All of the OG player is performing well on the game. There hero for pos 3 to 5 is so strong and always counter the GG hero draft. It's normal for the commentators to notice the core heroes most of the time if all of the players is performing well. The only time support have the spotlight is when their cores is not performing yet they win the game by doing some good highlights game play. In my local commentator, Ammar game is what being notice most the time because OG win is always relying on his performance. Most of the lose of OG is when Ammar can’t win his lane or he fails to give a proper setup during team fight.

Even the EN casters notice Ammar's performance on both games, but little attention towards Taiga who has been setting up good rotations for bzm and Ammar. For me, the MVP on both games is really Taiga. Biased I know, but he just enabled his cores on tricky fights that they could have lost. Not enough credit on those bushwacks and those ults that have always connected, enough to take down one enemy which gives an advantage to the team.

Oh well, glad that OG has been performing really well. They deserve the wins as you can see that their chemistry is already starting to brew something positive for the team.

I really understand your point because all his bushwhack is pretty on point to catch enemy and save team mates on game 1. His game 2 hoodwink is the best since his bushwhack is perfect setup to kunka combo skill which surely obliterate enemy that they will caught. The final clash on the river is the best when they the turn around clash while they are chasing by all the member of GG. He caught 4 hero of GG that completely erase when kunka benefits on that setup..

Do you think OG is back again? Or still choke in after group stage?

With the way they are playing, my take is they can carry this momentum forward. Ammar is the only weak link I'm currently seeing for OG. That kid is good, no doubt, ut his extreme cockiness and inconsistency makes the ordeal really painful for the team on games where he is expected to deliver. I do like the fact that he's a flexible player that can do mid with Huskar, and it helps when they are outdrafted on the first picking phase, but then again Huskar isn't an all-rounder mid laner that can carry in mid-late game.

Personally, if Ammar can be consistent with his performance, this OG lineup can even win majors or even TI. Honestly Taiga is what saves Ammar on losing the lane with the dude's constant application of pressure on the 5 support which isolates the carry of the enemy.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on April 07, 2022, 06:46:05 PM

two bangers tomorrow 🔥🔥 i'm going with over 2.5 in the first series. But Navi v FaZe is a toss up, could be an over 2.5, D2 is literally a free win for NaVi lately, so it's all about overpass or nuke for FaZe (navi dropped one map so far and it was nuke) But, i kinda wanna back FaZe, those odds are really juicy for the #2 team in the world

Liking the over in the Navi vs Faze series as well as both teams are likely going to take their map picks similar to what happened in their last meeting during the IEM tournament.

Then in the first series i'll go with Furia @1.66 hopefully they don't let me down, whenever I back these guys they usually fail to deliver but I prefer them over Astralis as I think there's still something lacking on the side of Astralis at the moment.

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Does anyone watch the match of OG versus Tundra? People make a bet with the tundra because they know the capability of this team because of their winning streak recently and we now the OG loses to their previous games with the game 1 it's already in favour of the team Tundra because of their good drafts but after they lose a fight in the top lane their core makes a buy back and the whole team bought back too but the timber conquered the game and makes them all die back that's why OG win the game 1 and after that in the game two they can easily manage to win a sweep 2-0.

I still remember that game 1, it was just painful to watch I think Tundra lost their patience and someone from their team made the call to buyback in order to salvage the team fight but it felt like they somewhat hesitated in doing so as they bought back one by one like throwing bodies to the meat grinder. OG's timing was just great when it comes to dragging out that crucial engagement until Tundra expended all their BKBs so they could easily all in on the cores.

They got too much carried away on that team fight after they commit a miscommunication and lose the team fight they still chasing timbersaw which is they can't burst up easily those mistakes because one of their regrets instead of easily managing to wait for their core, they bought back to chase up and the OG use this opportunity to take the game 1, I do bet with that game and of course, I trust OG it's the new era to them and that you give a good profit.

There are lots of criticisms of new era on OG roster or line up but eventually it is something that we shouldnt really underestimate.We could see their discipline on every possible clash and positioning plus execution

of skills on team fights.I agree about chasing that timbersaw which do really give out some space for other team to trigger out those active item spells and skills and this is where timing is really very crucial
on these kind of moments.

If you do risk out then be prepared on what would be the cost and that impatient decision did really cost them.

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Quote from: ralle14 on April 07, 2022, 04:16:05 AM

Also eyeing NiP @1.70 vs Team Liquid later, still not convinced with Team Liquid it felt like Heroic had an off day. We'll see if Team Liquid could pull it off twice in a row against another solid opposition or will NiP eliminate them later today.

i should've grabbed the NIP ml after the odds were boosted thanks to TL fluke win against Heroic, but i ended up going for Movi Riders +1.5 @1.5 and it paid off, but i'm kinda sad the underdog of the tourney, Riders, were ko'd in such fashion, good showing in map 1, and then 16-2 and 16-5 for ENCE... massacre

two bangers tomorrow 🔥🔥 i'm going with over 2.5 in the first series. But Navi v FaZe is a toss up, could be an over 2.5, D2 is literally a free win for NaVi lately, so it's all about overpass or nuke for FaZe (navi dropped one map so far and it was nuke) But, i kinda wanna back FaZe, those odds are really juicy for the #2 team in the world

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Quote from: ralle14 on April 07, 2022, 04:16:05 AM

Quote from: Peanutswar on April 07, 2022, 03:04:33 AM

Does anyone watch the match of OG versus Tundra? People make a bet with the tundra because they know the capability of this team because of their winning streak recently and we now the OG loses to their previous games with the game 1 it's already in favour of the team Tundra because of their good drafts but after they lose a fight in the top lane their core makes a buy back and the whole team bought back too but the timber conquered the game and makes them all die back that's why OG win the game 1 and after that in the game two they can easily manage to win a sweep 2-0.

I still remember that game 1, it was just painful to watch I think Tundra lost their patience and someone from their team made the call to buyback in order to salvage the team fight but it felt like they somewhat hesitated in doing so as they bought back one by one like throwing bodies to the meat grinder. OG's timing was just great when it comes to dragging out that crucial engagement until Tundra expended all their BKBs so they could easily all in on the cores.

They got too much carried away on that team fight after they commit a miscommunication and lose the team fight they still chasing timbersaw which is they can't burst up easily those mistakes because one of their regrets instead of easily managing to wait for their core, they bought back to chase up and the OG use this opportunity to take the game 1, I do bet with that game and of course, I trust OG it's the new era to them and that you give a good profit.

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