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Quote from: dothebeats on March 30, 2022, 11:45:01 AM

Was quite late to place anything for GG but they still delivered a good game against Secret. Dyracho and tofu wrecking the offlane and Sumail can't really do anything about this duo. Their team dynamics is extremely weird: their pos 2 often opens the engagement and their tanky offlane always comes in late, yet they don't lose engagements that often and most of the time even comes out on top. Gladiators is really a fun team to watch alongside Tundra. Would be a great match to watch if ever their paths cross in the next few days.

There offline acts as carry role in game 1. Afaik is a pos1 player before in other teams role. The match very one sided and I’m confused why does the odds on pnxbet sportsbook is in favor with Secret knowing how strong Gladiator sonce last tournament and the start of this group stage. Sumail can’t carry the in late game because all the 3 cores of Gladiator always hit the timing of there items unlike Secret that keeps being lose in there lanes. This is a very bad match for Secret, I thought they already get there tempo when they beat beat OG last time. Gladiator is so strong on there current roster!

Cant wait for Tundra vs Gladiator.

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Was quite late to place anything for GG but they still delivered a good game against Secret. Dyracho and tofu wrecking the offlane and Sumail can't really do anything about this duo. Their team dynamics is extremely weird: their pos 2 often opens the engagement and their tanky offlane always comes in late, yet they don't lose engagements that often and most of the time even comes out on top. Gladiators is really a fun team to watch alongside Tundra. Would be a great match to watch if ever their paths cross in the next few days.

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Quote from: sunsilk on March 29, 2022, 02:49:37 PM

Yes.

T1 is one of the unpredictable teams and they have been one of the crowd favorites during the last TI and I think, that they'll be the same favorites again for the upcoming next TI.

About OG, the management, former captain - Notail, understands that their era has already ended and they need a set of new breeds to continue their domination.

Lets just accept that thing on where roster do really change but it cant just be easily forgotten on how these former members do make a certain team to be that popular and seeing having bad records on a new roster do
really give out that kind of annoying feeling. (Personal reaction)

Quote from: dothebeats on March 29, 2022, 11:20:03 AM

I don't quite understand how one would pick Gyro against a Razor carry. It's just a massacre especially if a setup is present which SK fulfilled on that game.

Total massacre from mid-game to late game but of course if Razor could farm that much against Gyro thats why roaming supports is the key
and good execution.

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Quote from: Fatunad on March 28, 2022, 05:08:31 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on March 28, 2022, 05:05:30 PM

Well, there's still ample time for this current roster of OG to be good as what we're expecting. Most of them are new to the LAN tournaments and having misha as their captain and notail as their coach.

They're still on the right track with their guidance and I don't think that they're doing it wrong. It's just there's always the better team when it comes to these matches. What they need to do is to adopt those losses and learn from it and the next time they have match against that team that has beat them, they'll know how to counter them well.

There are teams which does have bad matches or performance on majors or other tourneys but turns out to have some comeback in major ones like TI thats why its totally unpredictable.
Speaking with the current roster of OG then i dont say that they do suck but i do still better to prefer on seeing the older or former ones but well time has changed.

Yes.

T1 is one of the unpredictable teams and they have been one of the crowd favorites during the last TI and I think, that they'll be the same favorites again for the upcoming next TI.

About OG, the management, former captain - Notail, understands that their era has already ended and they need a set of new breeds to continue their domination.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on March 29, 2022, 09:32:20 AM

Flandre didn't show up today, got outclassed in this series SO HARD, TheShy put on a clinic in top lane, godlike performance. Maybe they should've kept Xiaoxiang
anyway, i'm in profit and TES v LNG is a 50/50 game so i'll skip that one and focus on ESL pro league tomorrow

Tough loss on the side of EDG, it looked like the game is always on the knife's edge but Flandre's mistakes and mediocre performance gave Weibo the momentum they need to take the lead or climb from a deficit.

I might go with the TES series tomorrow and just observe the Pro League games since there might be teams that would put on a surprise.

Quote from: arallmuus on March 29, 2022, 11:46:10 AM

I think I need to reconsider myself betting Nigma everytime they play ( lost the game, was kinda hoping for Nigma to win and over 2.5 maps ) . It was a one sided game after all and It was pretty much similar to the last game against OG. Small chances for Nigma to qualify the next TI through DPC points, probably they'll do well in the qualifier but I honestly think most of the WEU teams right now are far better than Nigma

I was also eyeing for the over but I already learned my lesson after Tundra 2-0'd Team Secret in their last series. Also that vision they got from that controlled creep was just way too broken.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on March 29, 2022, 09:32:20 AM

time for Tundra vs Nigma Galaxy in DPC... very even game at the 15 min mark

I think I need to reconsider myself betting Nigma everytime they play ( lost the game, was kinda hoping for Nigma to win and over 2.5 maps ) . It was a one sided game after all and It was pretty much similar to the last game against OG. Small chances for Nigma to qualify the next TI through DPC points, probably they'll do well in the qualifier but I honestly think most of the WEU teams right now are far better than Nigma

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Tundra just breezing off of NGX on their best of three series earlier. I hate to say this, but I think NGX needs to replace Kuro as the drafter and Igor as their carry. They are waaaay past their prime and the boys from Tundra just proved that earlier. I don't quite understand how one would pick Gyro against a Razor carry. It's just a massacre especially if a setup is present which SK fulfilled on that game.

That 1.6 for Tundra moneyline was well worth it. NGX has been in bad form ever since the start of this DPC season 2, and people still think that they opted to do this because they 'study' their opponents.

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Quote from: ralle14 on March 29, 2022, 03:41:09 AM

I feel like one of the main issues on the side of EDG is their top lane I remember they swapped Flandre a couple of times with Xiaoxiang but they still stuck with Flandre at the end.

Flandre didn't show up today, got outclassed in this series SO HARD, TheShy put on a clinic in top lane, godlike performance. Maybe they should've kept Xiaoxiang
anyway, i'm in profit and TES v LNG is a 50/50 game so i'll skip that one and focus on ESL pro league tomorrow

time for Tundra vs Nigma Galaxy in DPC... very even game at the 15 min mark

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Fans of Soniq for PUBG PCS6 will be pleased with this quick update. They are in the Top 2, with the Dodge being the top team. The Dodge was a bit of an underdog in the previous PCS, but they have made the most progress since then. Even though I haven't watched the entire stream, based on the clips I've seen, it appears that soniqs have a better rotation than those PCS5 who, it is fair to say, are killing themselves by rotating in the center or by constantly pushing high ground, which they are well aware will result in defeat. I am looking forward to PCS6 because TGLT is a little more reserved and not as boastful as it has been in the past.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on March 28, 2022, 04:16:55 PM

1.7 with boost on SB. That's a lock alright

IIRC weibo were the team with the longest winning streak in the split, so, when this time goes online, they're a really scary team
but, despite EDG being a bit inconsistent in regular season, i'll still put them as the the main fav in this series, you just gotta respect the current world champs.
Man, this is gonna be such a good series, it deserves some prematch fire emojis 🔥🔥🔥 Grin

I got them at 1.67 without the boost, I thought my boost might not make it in time so I already locked it early but it looks like the odds are still moving in favor of EDG.

I agree this will be a banger series and I expect this one to go all the way since both teams have a lot of experience when it comes to the playoffs even though their last meeting ended up 2-0 in favor of Weibo. I feel like one of the main issues on the side of EDG is their top lane I remember they swapped Flandre a couple of times with Xiaoxiang but they still stuck with Flandre at the end.

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Watching the game between OG and Secret is exhilarating especially the map3 of the games which OG already had a huge lead while they can't close the game because nisha ember spirit keeps killing the backline of OG leaving Terror Blade alone in the clash without any support. The last clash which Sumail purchase a refresher orb to have a good setup with double chrono sphere seal the game. There's a lot of misplay with ATF setup and they can't even give TB a perfect setup to free hit the enemy. Cheesy

Yeah, they did well at the very early game of map 3 although Team Secret has given them also some fair fights and clashes so they're close. IMO, the one that stood out in the early game is ATF. The sand king he played was actually good and I'm a fan of him.

Nisha was really good at killing those backlines as they can target and kill them easily. That was a good strat for them when it seems that OG is winning the game, still GG.

Sumail as Pos1 again make a lot of improvement to the performance of Secret, I'm now kinda like there performance because Nisha can finally his best on his comfortable role as a solid midlaner. I really feel the frustration of OG for not giving a proper support to there carry since Nisha keeps killing there controls and setup to win the clash. I really feel like they can dominate the current DPC tournament and can rival again Tundra on there rematch.

Well, there's still ample time for this current roster of OG to be good as what we're expecting. Most of them are new to the LAN tournaments and having misha as their captain and notail as their coach.

They're still on the right track with their guidance and I don't think that they're doing it wrong. It's just there's always the better team when it comes to these matches. What they need to do is to adopt those losses and learn from it and the next time they have match against that team that has beat them, they'll know how to counter them well.

There are teams which does have bad matches or performance on majors or other tourneys but turns out to have some comeback in major ones like TI thats why its totally unpredictable.
Speaking with the current roster of OG then i dont say that they do suck but i do still better to prefer on seeing the older or former ones but well time has changed.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on March 27, 2022, 11:41:03 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on March 27, 2022, 05:21:12 PM

Quote from: Eternad on March 27, 2022, 03:38:16 AM

Watching the game between OG and Secret is exhilarating especially the map3 of the games which OG already had a huge lead while they can't close the game because nisha ember spirit keeps killing the backline of OG leaving Terror Blade alone in the clash without any support. The last clash which Sumail purchase a refresher orb to have a good setup with double chrono sphere seal the game. There's a lot of misplay with ATF setup and they can't even give TB a perfect setup to free hit the enemy. Cheesy

Yeah, they did well at the very early game of map 3 although Team Secret has given them also some fair fights and clashes so they're close. IMO, the one that stood out in the early game is ATF. The sand king he played was actually good and I'm a fan of him.

Nisha was really good at killing those backlines as they can target and kill them easily. That was a good strat for them when it seems that OG is winning the game, still GG.

Sumail as Pos1 again make a lot of improvement to the performance of Secret, I'm now kinda like there performance because Nisha can finally his best on his comfortable role as a solid midlaner. I really feel the frustration of OG for not giving a proper support to there carry since Nisha keeps killing there controls and setup to win the clash. I really feel like they can dominate the current DPC tournament and can rival again Tundra on there rematch.

Well, there's still ample time for this current roster of OG to be good as what we're expecting. Most of them are new to the LAN tournaments and having misha as their captain and notail as their coach.

They're still on the right track with their guidance and I don't think that they're doing it wrong. It's just there's always the better team when it comes to these matches. What they need to do is to adopt those losses and learn from it and the next time they have match against that team that has beat them, they'll know how to counter them well.

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Quote from: dothebeats on March 28, 2022, 12:44:19 PM

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Like the postponement of the match before of OG and Team Secret IIRC, here goes the Nigma.Galaxy Racer and Gladiators due to the result of testing for covid-19.

Anyway, together with the day of the match by OG and Team Secret, there's also the Gladiators and Entity. Gladiators won it. These two are both underrated teams yet they got in as Division 1.

They're showing some good dota and we're always up for it. Gladiators are already renowned for their cheesy plays since Team Tickles. Seleri has already proven himself as a good drafter and can even do some crazy metas that banks on the supports. They just need to get up close and personal to a lot of these tournaments for their skills to be honed and their experience expounded. Perhaps a good management too, for them to hold it together and compete with the big names in Dota 2.

I agree.

More experience from this team and they can be just like any other tier 1 team in their region. More exposure is needed so they'll be able to be placed on the top just like the other teams.

I think I like the synchronization of this team and I just want to appreciate them since all eyes are mostly on the better teams.

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Quote from: ralle14 on March 28, 2022, 09:22:08 AM

Weibo +1.5 @1.60 seems juicy here.

1.7 with boost on SB. That's a lock alright

IIRC weibo were the team with the longest winning streak in the split, so, when this time goes online, they're a really scary team
but, despite EDG being a bit inconsistent in regular season, i'll still put them as the the main fav in this series, you just gotta respect the current world champs.
Man, this is gonna be such a good series, it deserves some prematch fire emojis 🔥🔥🔥 Grin

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Quote from: boyptc on March 28, 2022, 06:03:06 AM

Like the postponement of the match before of OG and Team Secret IIRC, here goes the Nigma.Galaxy Racer and Gladiators due to the result of testing for covid-19.

Anyway, together with the day of the match by OG and Team Secret, there's also the Gladiators and Entity. Gladiators won it. These two are both underrated teams yet they got in as Division 1.

They're showing some good dota and we're always up for it. Gladiators are already renowned for their cheesy plays since Team Tickles. Seleri has already proven himself as a good drafter and can even do some crazy metas that banks on the supports. They just need to get up close and personal to a lot of these tournaments for their skills to be honed and their experience expounded. Perhaps a good management too, for them to hold it together and compete with the big names in Dota 2.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on March 28, 2022, 08:56:37 AM

btw, Finals markets are live and they're not that bad... over 3.5 @1.4, T1 ML @1.3, Gen.G +2.5 @1.4 and +1.5 @2

people are not underestimating Gen.G as much as i thought and for a good reason, they're finally gonna play T1 with the main roster for the first time this season. First series in the split they had Ophelia from the challenger team, in the second series they had two players from the challenger team and a sub plus chovy and ruler. They lost both series, obviously...But, as if it was totally scripted (*wink, wink* lol), both teams will face each other with their best rosters avalaible in no other than the Final Cool

Wow T1 @1.3 seems way too generous but i'm not too keen on the over 3.5 as T1 might sweep them with the way they're playing right now. Cheesy

I might go with T1 -1.5 if Betsy has them at 1.58 it's probably going for 1.70-1.80 on BetRadar.

Nice call on their h2h matchup this split, I remember their squad got hit with COVID at that time unfortunately. Also any thoughts on tomorrow's matchup between Weibo vs EDG? Weibo +1.5 @1.60 seems juicy here.

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Quote from: STT on March 27, 2022, 03:59:41 PM

3 maps anyhow, movi really shouldnt be losing but usa too random

and they didn't... seems like they didn't take map 2 too seriously, game was pretty meaningless tbh but they still pulled through in the decider, imagine the memes if hey had lost to a NA team Grin

Quote from: ralle14 on March 27, 2022, 10:57:15 PM

then they came back all the way from an 8-10k deficit. Grin

i watched the VOD last night, super mega carry from Chovy tbh, stalling that last baron fight by killing Kellin, Peanut trolling and getting killed by canyon, but then a massive triple kill from Chovy in that 4v5 teamfight... the absolute mad lad looked so calmed after winning such a crazy game Cheesy

btw, Finals markets are live and they're not that bad... over 3.5 @1.4, T1 ML @1.3, Gen.G +2.5 @1.4 and +1.5 @2

people are not underestimating Gen.G as much as i thought and for a good reason, they're finally gonna play T1 with the main roster for the first time this season. First series in the split they had Ophelia from the challenger team, in the second series they had two players from the challenger team and a sub plus chovy and ruler. They lost both series, obviously...But, as if it was totally scripted (*wink, wink* lol), both teams will face each other with their best rosters avalaible in no other than the Final Cool

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Like the postponement of the match before of OG and Team Secret IIRC, here goes the Nigma.Galaxy Racer and Gladiators due to the result of testing for covid-19.

Anyway, together with the day of the match by OG and Team Secret, there's also the Gladiators and Entity. Gladiators won it. These two are both underrated teams yet they got in as Division 1.

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Quote from: sunsilk on March 27, 2022, 05:21:12 PM

Quote from: Eternad on March 27, 2022, 03:38:16 AM

Watching the game between OG and Secret is exhilarating especially the map3 of the games which OG already had a huge lead while they can't close the game because nisha ember spirit keeps killing the backline of OG leaving Terror Blade alone in the clash without any support. The last clash which Sumail purchase a refresher orb to have a good setup with double chrono sphere seal the game. There's a lot of misplay with ATF setup and they can't even give TB a perfect setup to free hit the enemy. Cheesy

Yeah, they did well at the very early game of map 3 although Team Secret has given them also some fair fights and clashes so they're close. IMO, the one that stood out in the early game is ATF. The sand king he played was actually good and I'm a fan of him.

Nisha was really good at killing those backlines as they can target and kill them easily. That was a good strat for them when it seems that OG is winning the game, still GG.

Sumail as Pos1 again make a lot of improvement to the performance of Secret, I'm now kinda like there performance because Nisha can finally his best on his comfortable role as a solid midlaner. I really feel the frustration of OG for not giving a proper support to there carry since Nisha keeps killing there controls and setup to win the clash. I really feel like they can dominate the current DPC tournament and can rival again Tundra on there rematch.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on March 27, 2022, 01:57:26 PM

good call
My DK +1.5 @1.6 hit as well. That one was a completely biased ticket since i'm a bit of a DK fanboy, but it was good value regardless, they never go down without a fight as seen in their past series against Gen.G.
Can't wait for the grand final, gotta keep an eye for the markets opening very soon to place the tickets asap before volume moves all the lines and we're left with T1 3-0 at 1.10 odds Wink

I agree there's decent value on DK's handicap and good for you that it hit after the third map compared to my Gen G ticket where it was just one hell of a rollercoaster until the fifth map where it looked hopeless for them then they came back all the way from an 8-10k deficit. Grin

Nearly lost hope when Canyon decided to remove Peanut from the game by taking all of his camps and then followed him in the first 5-10 minutes of the game but luckily they held on long enough for their composition to go online.

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