Estimate of ASIC pre-orders: 13 to 15 PH/s (diff 1.8B to 2.1B) by end of 2013 - page 6.

ralree

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Quote from: geofflosophy on October 20, 2013, 06:05:01 AM

Quote from: ralree on October 20, 2013, 12:09:15 AM

So, are we accounting for all the horribly inefficient avalon hardware coming offline in a few months due to power cost?

I don't think Avalon's gear will be enough of the network to make a difference by the time it comes offline.

It's 500TH according to the first page - a decent hunk. Especially in Europe, power cost is going to kill it (assuming 0.30 USD/kwh, 1.4 billion diff is breakeven on power). By 3 billion or so, it will also be basically dead in the US.

Of course, all this assumes current pricing - it could change.

500TH will only be a few percent of the total hashrate when it comes offline, but I think it will still be noticeable versus GPU -> ASIC.

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Quote from: maursader on October 21, 2013, 10:56:07 AM

Hey there DeathAndTaxes, do you suppose we could post some difficulty estimates on the first page of this thread?

There are difficulty estimates on the first page. Not sure what you are asking?

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Quote from: GodfatherBond on October 15, 2013, 09:07:21 PM

I wish to give my 2 satoshis, but not exacty sure how network speed converts roughly to difficulty.
Can I calculate 1PH/s = 150 MM difficulty and 10PH/s = 1500 MM difficulty? (Please correct if Im calculating this absolutely wrong?)

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Difficulty#What_network_hash_rate_results_in_a_given_difficulty.3F

Hashrate = Diff * 2^32 / 600

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Hey there DeathAndTaxes, do you suppose we could post some difficulty estimates on the first page of this thread?

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Quote from: geofflosophy on October 20, 2013, 06:05:01 AM

Quote from: ralree on October 20, 2013, 12:09:15 AM

So, are we accounting for all the horribly inefficient avalon hardware coming offline in a few months due to power cost?

I don't think Avalon's gear will be enough of the network to make a difference by the time it comes offline.

Just like GPUs when they came off the network. Didn't see any dip there either.

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Quote from: ralree on October 20, 2013, 12:09:15 AM

So, are we accounting for all the horribly inefficient avalon hardware coming offline in a few months due to power cost?

I don't think Avalon's gear will be enough of the network to make a difference by the time it comes offline.

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Quote from: ralree on October 20, 2013, 12:09:15 AM

So, are we accounting for all the horribly inefficient avalon hardware coming offline in a few months due to power cost?

why do you think one would turn off mining gear ? because its irrelevancy. if it is irrelevant, there´s nothing to account. Wink

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So, are we accounting for all the horribly inefficient avalon hardware coming offline in a few months due to power cost?

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Quote from: GodfatherBond on October 15, 2013, 09:07:21 PM

I wish to give my 2 satoshis, but not exacty sure how network speed converts roughly to difficulty.
Can I calculate 1PH/s = 150 MM difficulty and 10PH/s = 1500 MM difficulty? (Please correct if Im calculating this absolutely wrong?)

Closer to 1 PH/s = 140 MM difficulty but yes there is a direct linear relationship between difficulty and network hashrate.

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I wish to give my 2 satoshis, but not exacty sure how network speed converts roughly to difficulty.
Can I calculate 1PH/s = 150 MM difficulty and 10PH/s = 1500 MM difficulty? (Please correct if Im calculating this absolutely wrong?)

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Quote from: btc_uzr on October 15, 2013, 02:33:59 PM

so far KnC seems to ship less than guesstimated (and slower)
Cointerra is already late on tape out as it seems: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3337524
Hashfast statement is 'shipping Oct. 20-30th' but: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3340500

I think it's safe to say that Hashfast is already late too and no i'm not hunting posts and i don't want to get into an argue with troll wannabe cypherdoc.

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so far KnC seems to ship less than guesstimated (and slower)
Cointerra is already late on tape out as it seems: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3337524
Hashfast statement is 'shipping Oct. 20-30th' but: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3340500

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Now that Bitcointalk is back up... How are these projections coming along?

Any major changes that should be noted?

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Quote from: Puppet on September 20, 2013, 12:16:04 PM

Quote from: FeedbackLoop on September 20, 2013, 12:05:13 PM

How many reels are they delivering?

I had no problems adding 1000 reels to my cart. I may have some problems coming up with the €83,700,000 needed to find out if they actually ship

Anyway, 9TH in a box is kinda cool.

I wonder if that is a poorly coded web cart or a true indicator of the number of reels they are shipping. I'd go with the former.

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Quote from: FeedbackLoop on September 20, 2013, 12:05:13 PM

How many reels are they delivering?

I had no problems adding 1000 reels to my cart. I may have some problems coming up with the €83,700,000 needed to find out if they actually ship

Anyway, 9TH in a box is kinda cool.

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Bitfury is shipping these early:

http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/bitfury-reel-fifo/

that's 9 TH-s per reel...

How many reels are they delivering?

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Firing it up

Pre-order is completely nothing but the first real 500Th/s can be possible by Kncminer due to the shipping. but for caution note. Since there are many problem for the current model. If you like to win, two methods must be used at the same time.

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Quote from: el_rlee on September 18, 2013, 07:31:54 AM

1 PH actually only means 10M$ for a 51% attack at a rate of 10$/GH...

What would be a "healthy" relationship between the value of the safe and the money in it?

Very interesting question. Anyone got stats?

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1 PH actually only means 10M$ for a 51% attack at a rate of 10$/GH...

What would be a "healthy" relationship between the value of the safe and the money in it?

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