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sr. member
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Hey Matthias

coinexchage.io is closing down at 1st Dec. any other exchange or any plan B?


I was wondering the same thing myself.


Wasn't there a plan to get ERC back on Trex with a major publicity splurge to coincide with the launch of the API device?
jr. member
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Hey Matthias

coinexchage.io is closing down at 1st Dec. any other exchange or any plan B?
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It's kind of hard to start conversation when you're told to lean back and enjoy. Wink

In that other thread's OP you listed your projects and mentioned NuCo cloud which itself is quite OK of course, but how it ties to ERC? Because I gotta be honest, I didn't bother to look at it almost at all. It came at the wrong time, I just wanted to see ERC progress. Anyway, it's idea is to make good use of idle computers or something like that? How that benefits ERC, or is that project something of an "ideological hobby" to you personally or something completely else?
legendary
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O.K. there will be alot of Europecoin and Financecloud API "Newbies"

in our new thread .....  so lets educate them:






BTW comments and discussiuons to show some living community ther is always welcome ...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52563007

have fun,
Matthias Grin


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legendary
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Sounds good, I guess that having first class ticket with priority boarding in a complex system that you presented here definitely brings certain value! I saw you writing about the "most connected" aspect before and I was not sure how to grasp it at the time, but it is becoming clearer. Truth is that having full access to the services from the financecloud along with being able to "communicate" with all other tokens in the hub makes ERC very interesting.

YEP you nailed it!

Grin Matthias

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legendary
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" - then demonstating ATM integration by doing Europecoin as first "

so you will integrate ERC before even BTC or ETH ?

 Shocked Shocked Shocked Grin Grin Grin Grin

yes for sure, this is what we are doing

have fun
Matthias Cheesy


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Cool! One more question here.Smiley When it comes to financial assets, there is one feature to rule them all - liquidity. When you integrate EuropeCoin into ATMs, exchanges and so on - to make things really work you need high liquidity, how do you deal with that? Unfortunately, currently the market for ERC is very shallow. Any plans on this front or do you just expect things will change fast once you start rolling out the financecloud?

Don't get me wrong with all these annoying questions, it is just that I am really excited about this, otherwise I would not bother.Smiley Hope you do not mind.


Your questions are opposite of annojing, i enjoy  your interest and thoughts Smiley

In terms of liquidity there is plenty to say.

First: about our startingpoint

1) because we are a takeover .... liquity had to be .... well we had to accept what we had and start with zero

2) so in the time ahead we had to build opportunities to get some liquidity power, by impressing more powerful entities, through our work and dedication.

3) this may have made us much slower than other ICO consuming projects, but in the end (because trust is the hardest asset) slightly more crisis resillient

4) given this, while others did build a coin to empower their vision, we had to build our vision to empowerour coin

second: where we are now

though i really think once Financecloud starts kickin, we will have more own liquidity,
i have never planned with just one such wacky concept of hope.

I started building partnerships for liquidity very early and today we have

- one of Europes most popular real Gold and Silver providers to back our asset tokenization, VICTOREANUM.COM
- ELEGRO in collaboration with Barclays to back our Payment and ATM operations
- and many small and big partners, who are more caucious about me talking about the partnerships

 have Fun
Matthias Smiley


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newbie
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1) how we are going tpo implement it:

Ther token layert is DONE· as well as the ATMs are produced and ready to go, you will see us live, launching the working environment,
over the pace of the next FIVE WEEKS  ....

steps will be:

- demonstrating integration by doing Europecoin as first
- then demonstating ATM integration by doing Europecoin as first
- then publishing the tokenization platform
- then starting slowly to open for otherx


2) do coins need our help?

yes in the beginning they will. In future we will have a direct (vetted and regulated) access for regulated coins, that gives them access to Government accepted contracting, Banking and so on and we will
later, have an alternative "shitcoin" gateway for everybody else. This is a way to protect freedom while keeping a regulated environment for those, who like to do real business:

have fun
Matthias


1 - so basically, the USP for EuropeCoin is being always one step ahead, right? Smiley
2 - sounds fair and realistic

Thanks for your answers!


yes USP in short term is, to be one step ahead.
USP in the long term is to sit in the middle of the FINANCECLOUD API and to manage
to position Europecoin as the "most-connected" one in the game.

Because in the very long haul, MOST CONNECTED ALWAYS WINS

B.T.W. THIS "most connected" rather than "unique nishe" approach is often difficult to grasp for many,
but its the single most point, that makes us different from most, if not all other projects around.


have fun
Matthias Smiley


.


Sounds good, I guess that having first class ticket with priority boarding in a complex system that you presented here definitely brings certain value! I saw you writing about the "most connected" aspect before and I was not sure how to grasp it at the time, but it is becoming clearer. Truth is that having full access to the services from the financecloud along with being able to "communicate" with all other tokens in the hub makes ERC very interesting.
legendary
Activity: 2100
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Europecoin Financecloud API
1) how we are going tpo implement it:

Ther token layert is DONE· as well as the ATMs are produced and ready to go, you will see us live, launching the working environment,
over the pace of the next FIVE WEEKS  ....

steps will be:

- demonstrating integration by doing Europecoin as first
- then demonstating ATM integration by doing Europecoin as first
- then publishing the tokenization platform
- then starting slowly to open for otherx


2) do coins need our help?

yes in the beginning they will. In future we will have a direct (vetted and regulated) access for regulated coins, that gives them access to Government accepted contracting, Banking and so on and we will
later, have an alternative "shitcoin" gateway for everybody else. This is a way to protect freedom while keeping a regulated environment for those, who like to do real business:

have fun
Matthias


1 - so basically, the USP for EuropeCoin is being always one step ahead, right? Smiley
2 - sounds fair and realistic

Thanks for your answers!


yes USP in short term is, to be one step ahead.
USP in the long term is to sit in the middle of the FINANCECLOUD API and to manage
to position Europecoin as the "most-connected" one in the game.

Because in the very long haul, MOST CONNECTED ALWAYS WINS

B.T.W. THIS "most connected" rather than "unique nishe" approach is often difficult to grasp for many,
but its the single most point, that makes us different from most, if not all other projects around.


have fun
Matthias Smiley


.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
" - then demonstating ATM integration by doing Europecoin as first "

so you will integrate ERC before even BTC or ETH ?

 Shocked Shocked Shocked Grin Grin Grin Grin

yes for sure, this is what we are doing

have fun
Matthias Cheesy


.


Cool! One more question here.Smiley When it comes to financial assets, there is one feature to rule them all - liquidity. When you integrate EuropeCoin into ATMs, exchanges and so on - to make things really work you need high liquidity, how do you deal with that? Unfortunately, currently the market for ERC is very shallow. Any plans on this front or do you just expect things will change fast once you start rolling out the financecloud?

Don't get me wrong with all these annoying questions, it is just that I am really excited about this, otherwise I would not bother.Smiley Hope you do not mind.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
1) how we are going tpo implement it:

Ther token layert is DONE· as well as the ATMs are produced and ready to go, you will see us live, launching the working environment,
over the pace of the next FIVE WEEKS  ....

steps will be:

- demonstrating integration by doing Europecoin as first
- then demonstating ATM integration by doing Europecoin as first
- then publishing the tokenization platform
- then starting slowly to open for otherx


2) do coins need our help?

yes in the beginning they will. In future we will have a direct (vetted and regulated) access for regulated coins, that gives them access to Government accepted contracting, Banking and so on and we will
later, have an alternative "shitcoin" gateway for everybody else. This is a way to protect freedom while keeping a regulated environment for those, who like to do real business:

have fun
Matthias


1 - so basically, the USP for EuropeCoin is being always one step ahead, right? Smiley
2 - sounds fair and realistic

Thanks for your answers!
legendary
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Europecoin Financecloud API
" - then demonstating ATM integration by doing Europecoin as first "

so you will integrate ERC before even BTC or ETH ?

 Shocked Shocked Shocked Grin Grin Grin Grin

yes for sure, this is what we are doing

have fun
Matthias Cheesy


.
sr. member
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" - then demonstating ATM integration by doing Europecoin as first "

so you will integrate ERC before even BTC or ETH ?

 Shocked Shocked Shocked Grin Grin Grin Grin
jr. member
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Amazing things are ahead of us.
Great work and congratulations to the whole team.
The next days will be very hot  Smiley
legendary
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Europecoin Financecloud API
legendary
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Europecoin Financecloud API






… and how to start thinking beyond “just exchange”

The Financecloud  API crypto unification layer is a token layer with a non destructive approach. Europecoin Financecloud always claimed to be a promoter of collaborative, friendly and BORDERLESS technology. Many token concepts are claiming the same, but are promoting to burn and to destroy coins, in favour of getting some tokens. This is a total double standard behaviour and this has to end.

The Financecloud API token-layer introduces a locking approach to token generation. Simple users can lock their coins to receive a token and they can destroy a token, to get their coin back, if they prefer, or need them
.

Future Role in Financecloud API Unification
At the same time, the Financecloud API Service Layer will use this Unification Token System to share / lend out coin specific functions inside the Financecloud API in a service oriented economical approach, to bridge among technological islands. As an example: doing ethereum like smart contracts among Dogecoins, by paying the ethereum Network for it, using the tokenlayer as a payment bridge. This will spark a new kind of automatized service economy, that is borderless, fair and encourages the sharing of formerly proprietary innovative functions without the fear of being “just copied”

Immediate Role in Vending and POS
The Financecloud Crypto unification layer gives technological incompatible coins the power, to jump onto a unified payment layer, without loosing their culture or identity. They can serve our network serving as a  provider for their coinspecific function, to generate income for their shareholders at the same time. Small coins are having problems  to negotiate deals with payment providers, or they fall victim to their reckless “joining fees”. This will immediately have an end, after joining the Financecloud, again, without loosing their Identity or community. Financecloud empowers “Blockchain Souverainity”
 

Immediate Role for Exchange and ATM access
Same game for exchanges, stop getting pushed around by exchanges, an start acting like a collective by joining us. Be listed on our two way ATMs, that are setup to do 2way exchange ACROSS not only any cryptocurrency but also assets, like real gold and silver and company shares. In future you credit card will not care about WHAT you chose, to back up your spending budget.

Future Role for Corporations and Contracting
we already developed a contract tokenization layer, that will be specified, after it has passed the ongoing  review. It will join conventional contracting with blockchain in a regulatory meaningful way.


EUROPECOIN specific
The tokenization approach will transform the power of Europecoin beyond the just explained features, by altering the TermDeposit layer. It will enable to generate values across Europecoin, real Gold and Silver and Tokens, just as you wish and as you need. So you could for example generate your own, well diversified pension account, just by locking your Europecoins. Or you could subscribe to servicelayers, by just using your generated interests.


WHY THIS APPROACH
Only a fair business approach will give this Crypto revolution the entry point into maturity. Let's stop being worse than those markets we tent to reform long time ago. Let's give any crypto, that enjoys the love of some community access to goods and services, lets make each  other stronger. To be honest, it's the only way to survive, because regardless how strong you think, you are, in terms of VOLUME, you are NOTHING in the eyes of Wall Street.

THINK AS A COLLECTIVE!

hope this was inspiring
have fun
Matthias Wink



.


Hi Matthias,

it sounds great indeed!

I have to agree with you on the need of the open platform and like it very much! I wonder how is it going to be implemented. Will other coins willing to join need some assistance from your side, or will they be able to add their coins on their own just by following certain predetermined steps?

Also, I am curious of the role of the Europecoin in the ecosystem. Does it have any utility - IE is the tokenization anyhow dependent on Europecoin or is it not related? Or is there any other utility setting it apart from any other coin that can join? Because, let's face it, bitcoin is only one and other coins/tokens need to justify their very existence (well, not that BTC doesn't have to do that too)..Smiley

Must have been crazy amount of work putting all of this together. Respect to you! Cheers!



1) how we are going tpo implement it:

Ther token layert is DONE· as well as the ATMs are produced and ready to go, you will see us live, launching the working environment,
over the pace of the next FIVE WEEKS  ....

steps will be:

- demonstrating integration by doing Europecoin as first
- then demonstating ATM integration by doing Europecoin as first
- then publishing the tokenization platform
- then starting slowly to open for otherx


2) do coins need our help?

yes in the beginning they will. In future we will have a direct (vetted and regulated) access for regulated coins, that gives them access to Government accepted contracting, Banking and so on and we will
later, have an alternative "shitcoin" gateway for everybody else. This is a way to protect freedom while keeping a regulated environment for those, who like to do real business:

have fun
Matthias



newbie
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https://i.postimg.cc/NfmYLCvs/GOPR1284.jpg


… and how to start thinking beyond “just exchange”

The Financecloud  API crypto unification layer is a token layer with a non destructive approach. Europecoin Financecloud always claimed to be a promoter of collaborative, friendly and BORDERLESS technology. Many token concepts are claiming the same, but are promoting to burn and to destroy coins, in favour of getting some tokens. This is a total double standard behaviour and this has to end.

The Financecloud API token-layer introduces a locking approach to token generation. Simple users can lock their coins to receive a token and they can destroy a token, to get their coin back, if they prefer, or need them
.

Future Role in Financecloud API Unification
At the same time, the Financecloud API Service Layer will use this Unification Token System to share / lend out coin specific functions inside the Financecloud API in a service oriented economical approach, to bridge among technological islands. As an example: doing ethereum like smart contracts among Dogecoins, by paying the ethereum Network for it, using the tokenlayer as a payment bridge. This will spark a new kind of automatized service economy, that is borderless, fair and encourages the sharing of formerly proprietary innovative functions without the fear of being “just copied”

Immediate Role in Vending and POS
The Financecloud Crypto unification layer gives technological incompatible coins the power, to jump onto a unified payment layer, without loosing their culture or identity. They can serve our network serving as a  provider for their coinspecific function, to generate income for their shareholders at the same time. Small coins are having problems  to negotiate deals with payment providers, or they fall victim to their reckless “joining fees”. This will immediately have an end, after joining the Financecloud, again, without loosing their Identity or community. Financecloud empowers “Blockchain Souverainity”
 

Immediate Role for Exchange and ATM access
Same game for exchanges, stop getting pushed around by exchanges, an start acting like a collective by joining us. Be listed on our two way ATMs, that are setup to do 2way exchange ACROSS not only any cryptocurrency but also assets, like real gold and silver and company shares. In future you credit card will not care about WHAT you chose, to back up your spending budget.

Future Role for Corporations and Contracting
we already developed a contract tokenization layer, that will be specified, after it has passed the ongoing  review. It will join conventional contracting with blockchain in a regulatory meaningful way.


EUROPECOIN specific
The tokenization approach will transform the power of Europecoin beyond the just explained features, by altering the TermDeposit layer. It will enable to generate values across Europecoin, real Gold and Silver and Tokens, just as you wish and as you need. So you could for example generate your own, well diversified pension account, just by locking your Europecoins. Or you could subscribe to servicelayers, by just using your generated interests.


WHY THIS APPROACH
Only a fair business approach will give this Crypto revolution the entry point into maturity. Let's stop being worse than those markets we tent to reform long time ago. Let's give any crypto, that enjoys the love of some community access to goods and services, lets make each  other stronger. To be honest, it's the only way to survive, because regardless how strong you think, you are, in terms of VOLUME, you are NOTHING in the eyes of Wall Street.

THINK AS A COLLECTIVE!

hope this was inspiring
have fun
Matthias Wink



.


Hi Matthias,

it sounds great indeed!

I have to agree with you on the need of the open platform and like it very much! I wonder how is it going to be implemented. Will other coins willing to join need some assistance from your side, or will they be able to add their coins on their own just by following certain predetermined steps?

Also, I am curious of the role of the Europecoin in the ecosystem. Does it have any utility - IE is the tokenization anyhow dependent on Europecoin or is it not related? Or is there any other utility setting it apart from any other coin that can join? Because, let's face it, bitcoin is only one and other coins/tokens need to justify their very existence (well, not that BTC doesn't have to do that too)..Smiley

Must have been crazy amount of work putting all of this together. Respect to you! Cheers!
legendary
Activity: 2100
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Europecoin Financecloud API






… and how to start thinking beyond “just exchange”

The Financecloud  API crypto unification layer is a token layer with a non destructive approach. Europecoin Financecloud always claimed to be a promoter of collaborative, friendly and BORDERLESS technology. Many token concepts are claiming the same, but are promoting to burn and to destroy coins, in favour of getting some tokens. This is a total double standard behaviour and this has to end.

The Financecloud API token-layer introduces a locking approach to token generation. Simple users can lock their coins to receive a token and they can destroy a token, to get their coin back, if they prefer, or need them
.

Future Role in Financecloud API Unification
At the same time, the Financecloud API Service Layer will use this Unification Token System to share / lend out coin specific functions inside the Financecloud API in a service oriented economical approach, to bridge among technological islands. As an example: doing ethereum like smart contracts among Dogecoins, by paying the ethereum Network for it, using the tokenlayer as a payment bridge. This will spark a new kind of automatized service economy, that is borderless, fair and encourages the sharing of formerly proprietary innovative functions without the fear of being “just copied”

Immediate Role in Vending and POS
The Financecloud Crypto unification layer gives technological incompatible coins the power, to jump onto a unified payment layer, without loosing their culture or identity. They can serve our network serving as a  provider for their coinspecific function, to generate income for their shareholders at the same time. Small coins are having problems  to negotiate deals with payment providers, or they fall victim to their reckless “joining fees”. This will immediately have an end, after joining the Financecloud, again, without loosing their Identity or community. Financecloud empowers “Blockchain Souverainity”
 

Immediate Role for Exchange and ATM access
Same game for exchanges, stop getting pushed around by exchanges, an start acting like a collective by joining us. Be listed on our two way ATMs, that are setup to do 2way exchange ACROSS not only any cryptocurrency but also assets, like real gold and silver and company shares. In future you credit card will not care about WHAT you chose, to back up your spending budget.

Future Role for Corporations and Contracting
we already developed a contract tokenization layer, that will be specified, after it has passed the ongoing  review. It will join conventional contracting with blockchain in a regulatory meaningful way.


EUROPECOIN specific
The tokenization approach will transform the power of Europecoin beyond the just explained features, by altering the TermDeposit layer. It will enable to generate values across Europecoin, real Gold and Silver and Tokens, just as you wish and as you need. So you could for example generate your own, well diversified pension account, just by locking your Europecoins. Or you could subscribe to servicelayers, by just using your generated interests.


WHY THIS APPROACH
Only a fair business approach will give this Crypto revolution the entry point into maturity. Let's stop being worse than those markets we tent to reform long time ago. Let's give any crypto, that enjoys the love of some community access to goods and services, lets make each  other stronger. To be honest, it's the only way to survive, because regardless how strong you think, you are, in terms of VOLUME, you are NOTHING in the eyes of Wall Street.

THINK AS A COLLECTIVE!

hope this was inspiring
have fun
Matthias Wink



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newbie
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Hello guys and especially Matthias!

Nice to see that things have started moving finally! I have to say I was also getting worried after the regular updates disappeared. But all seems fine now, so I am looking forward to the rock and roll that is seemingly coming. I am very curious about more info on the system!

BTW, looks like since Europecoin is going out into the public, have you been thinking of getting it some nice visual identity? I think it could come handy once you want to approach wider audience. Including logo - not sure the current one would be the best "performer" regarding the target audience perception.

Just thinking out loud, because we might be here for the tech, but people out there have to get intrigued and lured in by the regular laws of the business. I guess these things are even more important because of the EuropeCoin name itself which might not be an easy sell and therefore the whole brand "package" needs to be well thought through in my opinion.Wink

In any case, I am happy to see things are on track and wish you good luck in the upcoming period!

Yeah even more, we are in need of several logos and graphic works,
if you are having some contacts to get stuff done, i am open to get in touch with him/her

thank you for wishing us luck
have fun
Matthias  Cheesy

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Well, unfortunately I do not have anyone I could recommend right now. Perhaps one person, but not sure whether I'd be able to get in touch. Will try and will let you know if I succeed and will still think it would be a good match after some review.

If I could voice my opinion, it would be great if you could onboard someone who would not only make logos but whole visual identity and could work also on interfaces and so on to make it matching - pro-looking visual communication do wonders and creating the logo is actually the easier part of this.

To RataXes - yeah you are right, but you know, lurking is much more time effective then getting into conversations.Smiley Regarding your reply - I am not saying the name is not good per se - yet it indeed is kind of special among "serious" tokens. But standing out is usually a good thing when it comes to business - so it is about using this the right way. One aspect of the name that I think should definitely be considered and worked with - at least in some info materials and so on - is that the name itself is suggesting geographical limitations - which is obviously not the case - the coin is not limited to Europe at all - but could be understood that way by someone - and let's face it, once you get out of this crypto bubble among normal people - they know very little about crypto so they might be jumping into conclusions.

Of course there will be many other ideas popping up in the head of the targeted subject after hearing and seeing "Europecoin" brand and many of them could definitely work in favor of the Europecoin mission - my opinion is just that it needs to be "found out" - "sorted out" - and "worked with".Smiley

The result indeed might be amazing if these details are taken into consideration while creating the strategy. Of course, sometimes there is not enough time in the beginning and if the product is really good, these things are just left alongside and dealt with at the further stage of growth. On the other hand - user base is the core of this kind of business like Matthias is creating - so psychology of the crowd and their perception of the brand is much more important than in some other businesses.

Well, that is why I just lurk - I tend to spend too much time in discussions once I start..Smiley

Enjoy your evening everyone (in the right timezones)!
legendary
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And, to give answer to a question that no one asked - I got my wallet syncing.

 Grin Grin Grin
how nice!
full member
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Hello guys and especially Matthias!

Nice to see that things have started moving finally! I have to say I was also getting worried after the regular updates disappeared. But all seems fine now, so I am looking forward to the rock and roll that is seemingly coming. I am very curious about more info on the system!

BTW, looks like since Europecoin is going out into the public, have you been thinking of getting it some nice visual identity? I think it could come handy once you want to approach wider audience. Including logo - not sure the current one would be the best "performer" regarding the target audience perception.

Just thinking out loud, because we might be here for the tech, but people out there have to get intrigued and lured in by the regular laws of the business. I guess these things are even more important because of the EuropeCoin name itself which might not be an easy sell and therefore the whole brand "package" needs to be well thought through in my opinion.Wink

In any case, I am happy to see things are on track and wish you good luck in the upcoming period!

Gosh darnit, you fricking lurker! You should post more. We need more conversation.

EuropeCoin as a name was actually something that I remember thinking it being quite good. I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but szene also stormed to scene thinking it was good. Visually though, it was appalling: original developers tried to cram europe into circle and it ended having a bit of Spain and UK in it, 90 % of it was just Atlantic ocean. That's Europe for you, huh!

And, to give answer to a question that no one asked - I got my wallet syncing.
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