Topic: Everyone looses in the long run - page 114. (Read 96777 times)

yeah i guess everyone looses in a long term, i used to gamble really often some time ago and i have never managed to win some money out of it to buy myself something nice, now i try to avoid gambling at all costs

of course everyone looses in a long run it does not matter how much money you have or how good you are in gambling you will end up loosing after some time, casinos make money out of such player gambling when they lose their money

i have to disagree with this opinion, if you are lucky for the whole your life it is possible to end up in profit, or if you win a huge lottery so thats not correct to say that its not profitable in a long term

You are so right about this OP.

The house is in for the win, we are just players at the table waiting to send the house our money.

Many people entered into gambling just for entertainment or just to see how the gambling is going on. When they are gambling for fun, they would be making some profits. On seeing those small profits, they decided to turn full-time gamblers and doing gambling seriously and finding losses just to because of failure in a motion control. This must be one of the reason why gambling is not profitable in the long run.

Well it will surely work like that, gamblers sometimes think about their winning streak that their losses and because of the way they think they will play it for the long run and keeps going without thinking to back down from it and thinking about the win will not make you a good gambler it will only makes it worst.

No. The reason, many gamblers turn into losses with the gambling must be they are greedy and increasing their bet amount. Usually all the gamblers starting their activities with very low bets, on seeing some profit in short-term with the small bets, they increase their bet amount out of greedy. So, in long run it is not possible to stay with profits.

There are actually people who do count on it though.  They actually go there for the purpose of winning.  Whether it is a little bit or alot, they go in with certain goals and they treat it as a job.  The question is, how do they do it.  It can not all be luck.

Many gamblers are simply getting their hope on gambling for long run based on the small profits they are getting one day or other. They believe they can make every day would be profit-full day upon seeing a only one day profits. Actually gambling giving profits for single attempt out of 10 attempts.
This means, long run with gambling, will ensures the losses.

Good. If you accept my third paragraph with your third interpretation you automatically contrast your first explanation. If you play chess with money you never can be used as an example that chess is a example to be taken when is talked about gambling. You are very, to, very much, much few to be able to name chess as a gamble game. If the pro gamble poker cannot be taken only one time as an example to generalize that gamble is not dangerous (because are to few), you cannot be taken hundred times as example that chess is a gamble game. Are only one.

If your example can be used as an example of gambling then all the life is gamble. Someone can bet telling that in front of it will go within 5 minutes 50 cars and bet about this. This kind of reasoning is not correct because trivializes this question.

Totally agree with you except:

1. We are talking about gambling so there have no place for the chess in your post. Have nothing to do with gambling. If we will talk about all the possible games in existence all the thread would have only on e post: the list of games. Here we are talking only about the gambling. Gambling is totally another dangerous thing compared to the non gambling games (whatever can be) and have no meaning to put these in this kind of discussion.

2. You forget, when talk about gambling games, a very important characteristic (and even specific one - so only few things have this kind of characteristic) of those. The ability to create addiction. Created in almost all gamblers after gambling for a long time and/or for win (like must do the "pro"). Addiction in this kind of activity is the most dangerous one because give not only one but two bad (the worst ones) consequences. Disease (lost of health) and financial ruin. Whatever can be the gambling game create addiction if frequented for a long time and for win money. Scientifically proved and verified. The players of poker cannot go out of this scheme. But even yes, will be always a new player better than the previous one. The old player cannot accept never that the new one will be a better player than him. So will continue to play with the conviction that one day will be him the winner. In this way he will lost all the won money. Where is the pro here? Don't forget that I accepted your point of view. Thing this that is not true.

May exist only a few those who can go out of the above situations. Thing this that cannot be or used never as an example to justify in some way the gamble. For every kind of gamble with any kind of characteristics, specifics had or needed. Never.

While it is possible to make money gambling at a casino, you certainly shouldn't count on it. Luckily for the casinos, some gamblers do count on it – and some even think they have the winning method down, when all that method will get them is broke.

There are games of skill, such as chess.  There are games of chance, such as dice.  And, there are games of skill and chance, such as poker.  What is unique about a game of skill and chance is that the strategy is modified by how skillfully one interprets, manipulates, and anticipates their opponents behavior surrounding the part of the game that is unknown. There are many professional poker players.

I have the honor to have e Hero Member who give to me the needed explanations about my post.

Finally, at least one has explained what is a pro in gambling. So a pro in gambling is someone you make so much money with gambling that are enough to live him and his family and have even much more to gamble again the next night or day in order to have other money to maintain his family etc .... Every day this thing. Very hard to learn such things... But I will try. At least have a source full of arguments about the meaning of the "pro" in gambling. The above post quoted by me.

So, for one thing we can be sure: such species exist. Is argued in a undeniable way (full of facts) by the poster quoted by me. And we also know from the devastating facts given always by the poster quoted by me that the pro can be everyone independently from the source which give the name the pro as such. The luck or the skill. So not even exist the pro but exist even the pro who come from luck and the pro who come from skills. In other words we have a pro who take his luck always with himself when go at the casino to gamble and order to it, every day, to earn money in order that him deserve the name pro. Then we have the worker pro. That who order to his skills again to earn every night and day at the casino in order that him deserve the name worker pro.

Fantastic explanations. Full of arguments. Who can have the courage to think to discuss such arguments.

But nothing above can be compared with the comparison made a few down. The gambler is like the brain surgery doctor. Practically are the same person. We have a pro luck and a pro worker. Or maybe even a Big Pro who have luck and skills together (even this must be taken with to many reserves because is not mentioned at the analytical, devastating, factual, undeniable argumentation of the poster quoted by me). Then we have a doctor which have some skills and some luck and use those to make him capable to make brain surgery. Same as the Big Pro. Wow. Must be easy to be a doctor. Go some time in casino, go pro and here we are. You are a brain-surgery doctor. How many important and new things can be learned following savants here in bitcointalk. How many pearls can be learned reading their posts.

And at the end everyone must be sure that at poker and at the sport betting cannot be lose never money even if you are not pro. Because when you are pro have any kind of importance if you gamble or put money in bets. You always win. The problem are the simple people like who are not pro. But here we are the owners of the bet stations or bet points, or bet bars, or whatever bet can be who think for us. Only for us. Have you need for money. Go to one of the previous, do a bet (with not "luck" games) and will have your money. Piece of cake. Here can win everyone. Are not "luck" games. (sorry for the quotes of word "luck" - that to tell the right don't know why are used - but must respect the expression of the explainer). But are not only the above owners who care for us. But every person involved in the bet:  the players of the match, the referees, the FIFA, UEFA and all the other initiates who belong to the world of the bet world (in other words not the "luck" games). They before make e decision about the results of a match have all the needed info how ill be the result of it and then realize it. If are bets who are in opposite with each other make two matches with two different results and accept both as a formal result of that match. So everyone has their promised money from the not "luck" money (I will ask the name of those when will have the fortune to have a reply from the poster quoted by me - cannot be named simply named: not "luck" games).

I have not desire even to laugh.

Everyone wants to get easy money and defeated or not it is not always we can get. That depends on your luck when you gamble, if you have luck you can get some profit but you need try to control yourselves before you busted all your balance

I agree with you 100%.
Gambling should only be treated as entertainment (though one of my friends tries to make money with it)
It's sad when people don't understand that and buy bots, e.t.c to make a profit.
In the end it comes down to luck.

Sports gambling is a great way to test your luck. A lot of research can pay off, and though you may lose occasionally, it's more likely for you to win. I think that's probably the only way to "win" in the long run.

If you become really good at it... or ||sway|| bets, then you can make a ton of money. You just have to hope that shady stuff doesn't run down.

Addiction is inevitable as the user always want to win easy money, defeat is the only gain we receive.