Everyone looses in the long run - page 21.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on January 19, 2017, 09:55:15 AM

sooner or later the house edge will beat you. everybody will have same result in the end, and the casino owner can just laugh at us. so actually rather than have to gamble will be better to build your own casino.

Even if someone just give you their site, it is not a guarantee that you are going to get profit from your own casino. Players might win sometimes and you are going to lose money from your own gambling site so dont think that there is an easy money waiting for you if you own a casino, there will always be a risk no matter which you choose

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Not necessarily everyone BUT gambling is a negative loss game, that's known and confirmed. The house edge is always against the player and that's confirmed in online and offline games.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 18, 2017, 10:24:15 PM

In the mind of the gamblers, we are always positive to win despite of the fact that our chances is low, but who cares, that makes it more exciting to be optimistic.

No matter if you are optimistic or pessimistic, it wont make any difference at all. Actually the chances are quite high depending on how low the return that you want to get. If you wish to get high return then it is not possible to have high chance of getting it and if you wish a small return thrn the chances are very high

Small returns? You really mean what you said?
Even the smallest returns are riskiest, remember the U.S. Elections where Hilary Clinton and Donald Trump were standing against each other and Trump won in the end? Did anyone expect that result? The odds were the least and so many members, as well as even the bookies lost hard on his win.

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Quote from: just_Alice on January 19, 2017, 09:59:43 AM

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 18, 2017, 10:24:15 PM

In the mind of the gamblers, we are always positive to win despite of the fact that our chances is low, but who cares, that makes it more exciting to be optimistic.

No matter if you are optimistic or pessimistic, it wont make any difference at all. Actually the chances are quite high depending on how low the return that you want to get. If you wish to get high return then it is not possible to have high chance of getting it and if you wish a small return thrn the chances are very high

And still you might lose two or even three times in a row playing with 90% winning chance. I've seen it before. A guy was betting 10k with 90% win chance having 1k profit on win. After losing a bet he raised the betting amount to 100k to recover the lost 10k, but he lost again. Then he raised the betting amount to 0.01 and lost it too.

and its mean that guy is only loss much of amount in gambling and its not good for us too and i think everyone looses in the long run and it makes us to hard to recover our loss because the chance is small and without luck, we can not recover all of our money.

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Quote from: erwin45hacked on January 19, 2017, 12:50:29 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 18, 2017, 10:24:15 PM

In the mind of the gamblers, we are always positive to win despite of the fact that our chances is low, but who cares, that makes it more exciting to be optimistic.

No matter if you are optimistic or pessimistic, it wont make any difference at all. Actually the chances are quite high depending on how low the return that you want to get. If you wish to get high return then it is not possible to have high chance of getting it and if you wish a small return thrn the chances are very high

And still you might lose two or even three times in a row playing with 90% winning chance. I've seen it before. A guy was betting 10k with 90% win chance having 1k profit on win. After losing a bet he raised the betting amount to 100k to recover the lost 10k, but he lost again. Then he raised the betting amount to 0.01 and lost it too.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on January 17, 2017, 04:06:48 PM

Not everyone losses in the long run, the majority of people do but there are people that are very skilled in a particular game and others are simply lucky and then one day they win the lottery or a big price in the slots and as long as they are smart they will keep being winners.

but if you gamble daily and make it as a way to earn money i believe everyone will always get lost in the long run , nobody can manage keep getting lucky and having profit for long time , it is all temporary, the casino always win.

unless you won and stop gambling forever which it is a rare case.

its true and i think i am agree with this because getting luck in everytime we playing gambling is impossible and we don't know how long our luck will stay with us in a day and we don't know when our luck is comes and go. the other way to avoid from looses in the long run is when we get much of win or money, then we need stop gambling and leave the site and not comeback for one or two days.

nothing last forever , especially if you gamble in the long run.

sooner or later the house edge will beat you. everybody will have same result in the end, and the casino owner can just laugh at us. so actually rather than have to gamble will be better to build your own casino.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 18, 2017, 10:24:15 PM

In the mind of the gamblers, we are always positive to win despite of the fact that our chances is low, but who cares, that makes it more exciting to be optimistic.

No matter if you are optimistic or pessimistic, it wont make any difference at all. Actually the chances are quite high depending on how low the return that you want to get. If you wish to get high return then it is not possible to have high chance of getting it and if you wish a small return thrn the chances are very high

You're saying that you ned to be patience and wait for the luck came to you when you play that long depends on how many our you will stay and keep on betting? , I don't care if people are optimistic but if they had control on their selves they can really make it once is enough if already trippled bank roll why to play alot right?

Got your point mate and its right why needed to play long period if you already got some decent earnings well for me if i already doubled my bankroll i already satisfied and i quickly move away and bring my earnings sometimes even just a little earnings im already satisfied.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on January 17, 2017, 04:06:48 PM

Not everyone losses in the long run, the majority of people do but there are people that are very skilled in a particular game and others are simply lucky and then one day they win the lottery or a big price in the slots and as long as they are smart they will keep being winners.

Yes we may say that not everyone losses in the end but most of the gamblers have the same fate in gambling. We may not lose at the same time, but there is a certain time that we are going to lose and that is guaranteed. It is just a matter on how wise you are when you are gambling, so when you win some, don't let it get again by the house, save it.

I think we should look at the fact that in gambling we won't always win. so obvious, most people will lose in the long run.
Therefore, when I'm getting a big win I withdraw and exchange to fiat. then and I save some for play again.

We should really believe that it is very hard to win in gambling. Because there are some lucky individual gamblers who manage to win, many of us are looking to them as inspirations and thinks that their fortune will also happen to us. So instead of thinking that gambling will just make us lose all the time, we are keep on gambling.

And I believe some casinos use few guys as marketing to bring more gamblers to it. They show one or another guy having nice earnings to make people believe they can earn the same, but when they try the result is different. In long term it's very hard to win and only few people can do it, because they are lucky or because they are managing their game very well.

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Quote from: erwin45hacked on January 19, 2017, 12:50:29 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 18, 2017, 10:24:15 PM

In the mind of the gamblers, we are always positive to win despite of the fact that our chances is low, but who cares, that makes it more exciting to be optimistic.

No matter if you are optimistic or pessimistic, it wont make any difference at all. Actually the chances are quite high depending on how low the return that you want to get. If you wish to get high return then it is not possible to have high chance of getting it and if you wish a small return thrn the chances are very high

You're saying that you ned to be patience and wait for the luck came to you when you play that long depends on how many our you will stay and keep on betting? , I don't care if people are optimistic but if they had control on their selves they can really make it once is enough if already trippled bank roll why to play alot right?

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Quote from: andycarrol on January 17, 2017, 11:56:31 PM

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Quote from: wxa7115 on January 17, 2017, 04:06:48 PM

Not everyone losses in the long run, the majority of people do but there are people that are very skilled in a particular game and others are simply lucky and then one day they win the lottery or a big price in the slots and as long as they are smart they will keep being winners.

Yes we may say that not everyone losses in the end but most of the gamblers have the same fate in gambling. We may not lose at the same time, but there is a certain time that we are going to lose and that is guaranteed. It is just a matter on how wise you are when you are gambling, so when you win some, don't let it get again by the house, save it.

I think we should look at the fact that in gambling we won't always win. so obvious, most people will lose in the long run.
Therefore, when I'm getting a big win I withdraw and exchange to fiat. then and I save some for play again.

We should really believe that it is very hard to win in gambling. Because there are some lucky individual gamblers who manage to win, many of us are looking to them as inspirations and thinks that their fortune will also happen to us. So instead of thinking that gambling will just make us lose all the time, we are keep on gambling.

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Quote from: Carmen_Sandiego on January 18, 2017, 11:58:20 PM

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Quote from: romero121 on January 18, 2017, 02:15:20 PM

Loss is everywhere, but with gambling it stands next to us. Similar to the Op's question everyone looses in the long run. Because initially even without strategy people used to win, but when they always depend upon the luck without making strategies winning chances will go down slowly.

in gambling people use strategy not to lose out of their limit. otherwise there is no use of strategy and planning for changing gambling into profit, because gambling mostly depend on your luck. if you are lucky you will make good money in gambling without any experience and skill you can make a strategy so as to prevent yourself from extra lose.

that's the idea using strategy, if you can use that properly you will lessen the risk to burned all your bankroll and with that strategy you are relying to win not much but some acceptable winnings, its better to win little than lose everything, the more we engaged the more we are at risk so better to make sure to stay with your strategy or being sorry in the long run.

I think the risk will continue to be high, but playing with strategy is certainly much better than playing without any strategy. Something more important than that is not investing large amounts of money, if you cannot afford the loss of it, since something that you can not change in gambling is the fact that most of the time the chances of losing will be higher than the chances of winning.

Doing a search we can see that there are people who use various techniques and manage to earn a living from it, but it's rare, and even such people do not recommend putting a lot of money into it.

No, i think playing to know where your limit is most important.
U need to know even u have your strategy also can burst anytime.
odds given by banker and at least u need to have heart preparation when ur strategy doesnt work.
People easy to rely on strategy but not every can stand last.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 18, 2017, 10:24:15 PM

In the mind of the gamblers, we are always positive to win despite of the fact that our chances is low, but who cares, that makes it more exciting to be optimistic.

No matter if you are optimistic or pessimistic, it wont make any difference at all. Actually the chances are quite high depending on how low the return that you want to get. If you wish to get high return then it is not possible to have high chance of getting it and if you wish a small return thrn the chances are very high

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Quote from: romero121 on January 18, 2017, 02:15:20 PM

Loss is everywhere, but with gambling it stands next to us. Similar to the Op's question everyone looses in the long run. Because initially even without strategy people used to win, but when they always depend upon the luck without making strategies winning chances will go down slowly.

in gambling people use strategy not to lose out of their limit. otherwise there is no use of strategy and planning for changing gambling into profit, because gambling mostly depend on your luck. if you are lucky you will make good money in gambling without any experience and skill you can make a strategy so as to prevent yourself from extra lose.

that's the idea using strategy, if you can use that properly you will lessen the risk to burned all your bankroll and with that strategy you are relying to win not much but some acceptable winnings, its better to win little than lose everything, the more we engaged the more we are at risk so better to make sure to stay with your strategy or being sorry in the long run.

I think the risk will continue to be high, but playing with strategy is certainly much better than playing without any strategy. Something more important than that is not investing large amounts of money, if you cannot afford the loss of it, since something that you can not change in gambling is the fact that most of the time the chances of losing will be higher than the chances of winning.

Doing a search we can see that there are people who use various techniques and manage to earn a living from it, but it's rare, and even such people do not recommend putting a lot of money into it.

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Quote from: tabas on January 18, 2017, 10:04:28 PM

Quote from: romero121 on January 18, 2017, 02:15:20 PM

Loss is everywhere, but with gambling it stands next to us. Similar to the Op's question everyone looses in the long run. Because initially even without strategy people used to win, but when they always depend upon the luck without making strategies winning chances will go down slowly.

Yeah, whatever gambling game you are going to play, you are bound for losing. And if you think that playing casino online and real will differs, still you are bound for losing. It is just a matter on how you are going to take the advantage when you are winning while the money is still your hands, it's on how you are going to keep them.

With that way of thinking there is no reason to gamble at all, we are not bound to losing and I believe that. The only thing that keeps us losing is the slight advantage of the house but if we are lucky then we can make it possible to win.

In the mind of the gamblers, we are always positive to win despite of the fact that our chances is low, but who cares, that makes it more exciting to be optimistic.

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Quote from: romero121 on January 18, 2017, 02:15:20 PM

Loss is everywhere, but with gambling it stands next to us. Similar to the Op's question everyone looses in the long run. Because initially even without strategy people used to win, but when they always depend upon the luck without making strategies winning chances will go down slowly.

Yeah, whatever gambling game you are going to play, you are bound for losing. And if you think that playing casino online and real will differs, still you are bound for losing. It is just a matter on how you are going to take the advantage when you are winning while the money is still your hands, it's on how you are going to keep them.

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Quote from: Fireblade on January 18, 2017, 07:23:19 PM

Quote from: romero121 on January 18, 2017, 02:15:20 PM

Loss is everywhere, but with gambling it stands next to us. Similar to the Op's question everyone looses in the long run. Because initially even without strategy people used to win, but when they always depend upon the luck without making strategies winning chances will go down slowly.

in gambling people use strategy not to lose out of their limit. otherwise there is no use of strategy and planning for changing gambling into profit, because gambling mostly depend on your luck. if you are lucky you will make good money in gambling without any experience and skill you can make a strategy so as to prevent yourself from extra lose.

that's the idea using strategy, if you can use that properly you will lessen the risk to burned all your bankroll and with that strategy you are relying to win not much but some acceptable winnings, its better to win little than lose everything, the more we engaged the more we are at risk so better to make sure to stay with your strategy or being sorry in the long run.

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Quote from: romero121 on January 18, 2017, 02:15:20 PM

Loss is everywhere, but with gambling it stands next to us. Similar to the Op's question everyone looses in the long run. Because initially even without strategy people used to win, but when they always depend upon the luck without making strategies winning chances will go down slowly.

in gambling people use strategy not to lose out of their limit. otherwise there is no use of strategy and planning for changing gambling into profit, because gambling mostly depend on your luck. if you are lucky you will make good money in gambling without any experience and skill you can make a strategy so as to prevent yourself from extra lose.

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Almost everyone has this type of experience with online casino's and you are not the one who is experiencing it. I also did experienced to gamble with real life casino's and slot machines but you know what? The result has been always the same and I keep on losing again and again. So that's good for you that is making profit in the long run with it.

It is silly to expect the different result from either real or online casino and there is no way that you are going to make any profit at all in the long run assuming that nothing happened if everything just goes smoothly as usual. I wonder why people keep expecting different result when it is all written like a textbook all over the internet that everyone going to lose in the long run

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Quote from: wxa7115 on January 18, 2017, 12:37:16 PM

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Not everyone losses in the long run, the majority of people do but there are people that are very skilled in a particular game and others are simply lucky and then one day they win the lottery or a big price in the slots and as long as they are smart they will keep being winners.

Based on your statement, it still mean that everyone looses in the long run. Though you've mention that one day they win, that does not mean we know that we are the one meant to win. In gambling that is the end point, we lose. No one wins in gambling except if you are the operator.

Being smart/knowledgeable about the game isn't always a guarantee that you are a sure winner.

The fact you do not know if you are going to win or not does not deny the evidence there are some winners out there, if there were not any winners people will not have any hope to win in gambling but since there are some winners then people can try their luck and see if they would be one of them.

yes that is right, in fact people are getting hope from gambling when they see people earning money in gambling, as in my area there are some people who have make good money in gambling on regular basis. and when other people see them they also start playing gambling hopping to make money like them. but it depend on their luck and somehow their experience also.

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Loss is everywhere, but with gambling it stands next to us. Similar to the Op's question everyone looses in the long run. Because initially even without strategy people used to win, but when they always depend upon the luck without making strategies winning chances will go down slowly.

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