Everyone looses in the long run - page 19.

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Quote from: zagarcoin on January 22, 2017, 11:48:43 AM

Would be very difficult to win some profits by gambling, if you can gamble for fun and know when to stop, you will not suffer huge losses.

Even if you control your self, in the long run you will still lose. That's how gambling works and how the owner profit. The more you believe that when you control your self in gambling you will not lose, the more you will stay in the website and the more you will lose in the long run.

Though some people really believe that there is something at the end of the line in gambling, that's not true, the result of gambling is unpredictable, what is predictable is you will lose money and time there.

If you lose in gambling in the long run even if you have control in yourself then there might be wrong in the way you are gambling. Maybe you don't learn from your previous mistakes and keep repeating them that's why you are not earning any profit from your gambling for a long time. If you know how to control yourself in gambling then you won't let the casino take your money easily. And take any profit from the beggining you win some amounts.

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Quote from: zagarcoin on January 22, 2017, 11:48:43 AM

Would be very difficult to win some profits by gambling, if you can gamble for fun and know when to stop, you will not suffer huge losses.

Even if you control your self, in the long run you will still lose. That's how gambling works and how the owner profit. The more you believe that when you control your self in gambling you will not lose, the more you will stay in the website and the more you will lose in the long run.

Though some people really believe that there is something at the end of the line in gambling, that's not true, the result of gambling is unpredictable, what is predictable is you will lose money and time there.

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Quote from: aardvark15 on January 22, 2017, 08:45:09 AM

I tend to agree that you will eventually lose in gambling always. It's better to just gamble for entertainment rather than to make money.

yeah actually it has proven by a lot of research about how much chance a player can win against house edge? the answer was below 1 percent or so. pretty clear i guess for everyone to avoid gambling for making profit . do it for entertainment purpose only , it wouldn't be a matter at all even you always lost.

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Would be very difficult to win some profits by gambling, if you can gamble for fun and know when to stop, you will not suffer huge losses.

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Quote from: romero121 on January 18, 2017, 02:15:20 PM

Loss is everywhere, but with gambling it stands next to us. Similar to the Op's question everyone looses in the long run. Because initially even without strategy people used to win, but when they always depend upon the luck without making strategies winning chances will go down slowly.

Yeah, whatever gambling game you are going to play, you are bound for losing. And if you think that playing casino online and real will differs, still you are bound for losing. It is just a matter on how you are going to take the advantage when you are winning while the money is still your hands, it's on how you are going to keep them.

This is false, there are casino games where you cannot win the long run like dice or games like that but there are games that if you have skill you can make profits games like poker which you can learn online or you can sports bet and make good profits.

So what do you think if 5 of you are online and playing poker and beating against each other. Do you think that it is false that all of you are going to win? Or you are going to believe that only a chosen one has the chance to win and all of you are bound for losing? And besides I don't treat gambling money as profit because you didn't work for it.

It is impossible for everyone to win since gambling it is a zero sum game, it is even possible that no one wins even in a poker table because of the rake every casino takes from every pot, but if you are against weaker players than you then your expected value it is positive and you will make some earnings in the long run, it is not about luck but about mathematics.

but i think there are so many people who are even making good money in gambling and specially in sports gambling. because in sports gambling you have the advantage to use your previous experience, knowledge and skill, but it is a fact the most gambling games depend on your luck except sports gambling.

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Quote from: Botnake on January 22, 2017, 07:52:25 AM

why would people gamble when it's impossible to win, knowing that it's impossible to win and still do gambling is only making them fool. I know it's very hard to win in gambling due to the edge they have and lack of discipline in our part but I don't think we cannot have a good day in gambling, we will experience a win and we have to make sure that is huge enough to quit.

Theoretically you cant win in gambling especially in the long run, you can only win in the long run when there is variance although it is quite rare. A player win almost 300 btc few days ago and after wagering for that much he should have lost however variance actually was on his side and he won from the site

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I tend to agree that you will eventually lose in gambling always. It's better to just gamble for entertainment rather than to make money.

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Quote from: romero121 on January 18, 2017, 02:15:20 PM

Loss is everywhere, but with gambling it stands next to us. Similar to the Op's question everyone looses in the long run. Because initially even without strategy people used to win, but when they always depend upon the luck without making strategies winning chances will go down slowly.

Yeah, whatever gambling game you are going to play, you are bound for losing. And if you think that playing casino online and real will differs, still you are bound for losing. It is just a matter on how you are going to take the advantage when you are winning while the money is still your hands, it's on how you are going to keep them.

This is false, there are casino games where you cannot win the long run like dice or games like that but there are games that if you have skill you can make profits games like poker which you can learn online or you can sports bet and make good profits.

So what do you think if 5 of you are online and playing poker and beating against each other. Do you think that it is false that all of you are going to win? Or you are going to believe that only a chosen one has the chance to win and all of you are bound for losing? And besides I don't treat gambling money as profit because you didn't work for it.

It is impossible for everyone to win since gambling it is a zero sum game, it is even possible that no one wins even in a poker table because of the rake every casino takes from every pot, but if you are against weaker players than you then your expected value it is positive and you will make some earnings in the long run, it is not about luck but about mathematics.

I doubt if you really know gambling well, in the first place, why would people gamble when it's impossible to win, knowing that it's impossible to win and still do gambling is only making them fool. I know it's very hard to win in gambling due to the edge they have and lack of discipline in our part but I don't think we cannot have a good day in gambling, we will experience a win and we have to make sure that is huge enough to quit.

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Quote from: romero121 on January 18, 2017, 02:15:20 PM

Loss is everywhere, but with gambling it stands next to us. Similar to the Op's question everyone looses in the long run. Because initially even without strategy people used to win, but when they always depend upon the luck without making strategies winning chances will go down slowly.

Yeah, whatever gambling game you are going to play, you are bound for losing. And if you think that playing casino online and real will differs, still you are bound for losing. It is just a matter on how you are going to take the advantage when you are winning while the money is still your hands, it's on how you are going to keep them.

This is false, there are casino games where you cannot win the long run like dice or games like that but there are games that if you have skill you can make profits games like poker which you can learn online or you can sports bet and make good profits.

So what do you think if 5 of you are online and playing poker and beating against each other. Do you think that it is false that all of you are going to win? Or you are going to believe that only a chosen one has the chance to win and all of you are bound for losing? And besides I don't treat gambling money as profit because you didn't work for it.

It is impossible for everyone to win since gambling it is a zero sum game, it is even possible that no one wins even in a poker table because of the rake every casino takes from every pot, but if you are against weaker players than you then your expected value it is positive and you will make some earnings in the long run, it is not about luck but about mathematics.

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Quote from: Fatanut on January 21, 2017, 06:53:14 AM

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Quote from: Text on January 21, 2017, 02:36:06 AM

You are very right and most of it depends on luck. Some gamblers loses even in skill-based game maybe because they have missed something or did wrong so that's why sometimes they don't win. And newbies win because of pure luck.

I dont know where you get this from bu there is no such thing as pure skill based game. If there is a pure skill based game then only those skilled in the game will dominate it, luckily there is none and there is only combination of skill and luck based game which makes the result totally unpredictable even if you are skilled in it

How about the games like drag racing? It's purely skill based and people bet on that. You can bet money too as a player. Boxing is another example of this. Literally all types of sports are skilled based game that you can gamble on. That's 100% skill based. I think you're putting a limit on your thinking. You're just thinking of this dice, roulette, etc. Those are purely luck based but gambling is not limited to that. People bet on almost everything. Even the presidency, people gamble on that.

Im not sure wether you are stupid or pretending to be one (?). It has been stated clearly in the bolded part , the bolded part actually means that you literally bet in a skill based game which means that it literally means most casino games or even poker. It is lame that you dont read first before trying to put this kind of post

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Quote from: tommorisonwebdesign on October 03, 2015, 03:32:01 PM

Let's be honest. Gambling should only be considered for entertainment purposes only. If you are in need of quick cash, doing hard dirty work is more often than not better than hitting up the casino sites. I see way too many people in this section try to justify their gambling habits by saying they have strategies to always win. Others on this forum will go as far as to say that they are professional gamblers, and they always win. You're fooling no one and you look stupid.

All the gambling addicts I knew in real life who claimed to win from casinos all the time had serious mental issues. I went gambling with that guy once, and he ended up blaming me for him loosing at Pai Gow poker, a game that's 100% chance.

And just to let you guys know, ALL the casinos in my jurisdiction say the same things in public advertising campaigns. So far, my sig campaign manager has not PM'ed me telling me to quit bashing gambling. Nobody wins gambling, so lets stop pretending anyone here makes a living gambling online.

Indeed, all gamblers who are addicts have their own mental issue, because once they've loss big amount, he/she became stress and depress. Therefore all gamblers always thinking they will win the games, even they know their money is already melted of losing the games.

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Quote from: Fatanut on January 21, 2017, 06:53:14 AM

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Quote from: Text on January 21, 2017, 02:36:06 AM

You are very right and most of it depends on luck. Some gamblers loses even in skill-based game maybe because they have missed something or did wrong so that's why sometimes they don't win. And newbies win because of pure luck.

I dont know where you get this from bu there is no such thing as pure skill based game. If there is a pure skill based game then only those skilled in the game will dominate it, luckily there is none and there is only combination of skill and luck based game which makes the result totally unpredictable even if you are skilled in it

How about the games like drag racing? It's purely skill based and people bet on that. You can bet money too as a player. Boxing is another example of this. Literally all types of sports are skilled based game that you can gamble on. That's 100% skill based. I think you're putting a limit on your thinking. You're just thinking of this dice, roulette, etc. Those are purely luck based but gambling is not limited to that. People bet on almost everything. Even the presidency, people gamble on that.

I agree that skill based games are better to bet on rather than the luck based casino games. However you should be knowing that many games are fixed and the money-lines are manipulated in ways to make to gamblers bet on the party who is fixed to lose.

Also psychologically the players manipulate the gamblers buy fixing some games themselves - like winning the first game and losing the next and then winning the next in a set of tennis.

So in the end I think it only depends on your luck in case you manage to bank the fixed game properly or not Grin

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Quote from: erwin45hacked on January 21, 2017, 03:36:22 AM

Quote from: Text on January 21, 2017, 02:36:06 AM

You are very right and most of it depends on luck. Some gamblers loses even in skill-based game maybe because they have missed something or did wrong so that's why sometimes they don't win. And newbies win because of pure luck.

I dont know where you get this from bu there is no such thing as pure skill based game. If there is a pure skill based game then only those skilled in the game will dominate it, luckily there is none and there is only combination of skill and luck based game which makes the result totally unpredictable even if you are skilled in it

How about the games like drag racing? It's purely skill based and people bet on that. You can bet money too as a player. Boxing is another example of this. Literally all types of sports are skilled based game that you can gamble on. That's 100% skill based. I think you're putting a limit on your thinking. You're just thinking of this dice, roulette, etc. Those are purely luck based but gambling is not limited to that. People bet on almost everything. Even the presidency, people gamble on that.

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Quote from: erwin45hacked on January 21, 2017, 03:36:22 AM

Quote from: Text on January 21, 2017, 02:36:06 AM

You are very right and most of it depends on luck. Some gamblers loses even in skill-based game maybe because they have missed something or did wrong so that's why sometimes they don't win. And newbies win because of pure luck.

I dont know where you get this from bu there is no such thing as pure skill based game. If there is a pure skill based game then only those skilled in the game will dominate it, luckily there is none and there is only combination of skill and luck based game which makes the result totally unpredictable even if you are skilled in it

I think Poker and sports betting are some of skill based games (altough it is not pure-skill (all games need luck too), but in both of those games you really need some skills before you can make some profit. If you are saying "totaly unpredcitable" it is means you/they are playing on 100% luck based games, slots games as one of example, you can not use any of skills in this games.

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The greedy loses in the long run. Grin

Happened to me a lot of time. I have already won a lot and can stop then just sit for the whole day but still there is something bothering me saying "What if I win again?" "Just one more." Those kind of view will really make you lose in the long run and regret that you havent stopped early on. That is greed.

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Quote from: Text on January 21, 2017, 02:36:06 AM

You are very right and most of it depends on luck. Some gamblers loses even in skill-based game maybe because they have missed something or did wrong so that's why sometimes they don't win. And newbies win because of pure luck.

I dont know where you get this from but there is no such thing as pure skill based game. If there is a pure skill based game then only those skilled in the game will dominate it, luckily there is none and there is only combination of skill and luck based game which makes the result totally unpredictable even if you are skilled in it

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Quote from: The_prodigy on January 21, 2017, 02:16:24 AM

THis is what i want to point to them not all people are looses when they playing or spend too much time on gambling some of them enjoying winning while others are loosing don't compare all people when they play gambling even a skilled people are loosing and newbie some are winning.

You are very right and most of it depends on luck. Some gamblers loses even in skill-based game maybe because they have missed something or did wrong so that's why sometimes they don't win. And newbies win because of pure luck.

Yeah and sometimes its also one way of he house to attract players allowing newbies to wins just let them feel that they really have a good luck so new gamblers will be at home and play from time to time and for sure losing streak will follow and loses will show up and for sure newbies will try hard to chase loses.

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Quote from: The_prodigy on January 21, 2017, 02:16:24 AM

THis is what i want to point to them not all people are looses when they playing or spend too much time on gambling some of them enjoying winning while others are loosing don't compare all people when they play gambling even a skilled people are loosing and newbie some are winning.

You are very right and most of it depends on luck. Some gamblers loses even in skill-based game maybe because they have missed something or did wrong so that's why sometimes they don't win. And newbies win because of pure luck.

I could not remember anymore when I won because of luck, I was 0-5 tonight with NBA games, so I guess luck does not work all the time. But as a gambler, I have to move on and accept my loses, everyday is a new day and new day means new chance to win. Grin

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Quote from: The_prodigy on January 21, 2017, 02:16:24 AM

THis is what i want to point to them not all people are looses when they playing or spend too much time on gambling some of them enjoying winning while others are loosing don't compare all people when they play gambling even a skilled people are loosing and newbie some are winning.

You are very right and most of it depends on luck. Some gamblers loses even in skill-based game maybe because they have missed something or did wrong so that's why sometimes they don't win. And newbies win because of pure luck.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on January 17, 2017, 04:06:48 PM

Not everyone losses in the long run, the majority of people do but there are people that are very skilled in a particular game and others are simply lucky and then one day they win the lottery or a big price in the slots and as long as they are smart they will keep being winners.

THis is what i want to point to them not all people are looses when they playing or spend too much time on gambling some of them enjoying winning while others are loosing don't compare all people when they play gambling even a skilled people are loosing and newbie some are winning.

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