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Quote from: shulio on January 26, 2017, 11:16:14 AM

Quote from: Oralmat on January 26, 2017, 10:57:14 AM

But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension.

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

It depends on person to person. Sports betting is still a sort of gambling and not everyone can afford to lose big amounts. So those who have less money can invest less in betting and win. I also prefer small bets because i also do not have lot of money to play with.

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Quote from: aardvark15 on January 22, 2017, 08:45:09 AM

I tend to agree that you will eventually lose in gambling always. It's better to just gamble for entertainment rather than to make money.

If you open a poll then you will see 99% of people agreeing to it but still 90% of those guys would still gamble and of course for fortunes and quick profits only.

It is almost like studies we all know that it would be good for us and our future but yet we are always lazy to do that, the opposite of that is gambling. Maybe the next generation people at least gamble for right reason and must stay safer.

- Lazy people always want to make money quickly, so they come with gambling.
- They just want to rely on luck, sitting at home and make money simply by a few clicks
- But they do not realize, they will never ever win, that's ridiculous and stupid

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Quote from: PokerFace3 on January 28, 2017, 07:10:05 AM

If you open a poll then you will see 99% of people agreeing to it but still 90% of those guys would still gamble and of course for fortunes and quick profits only.

It doesnt matter if people agree to it or not. The fact is that you are going to lose in the long run doesnt mean that you cant make any profit at all. You could make some profit, the thing is do you know what you have to do to actually win? most people dont and I doubt most people actually know about an EV+ games

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Quote from: Oralmat on January 28, 2017, 06:52:57 AM

Quote from: shulio on January 26, 2017, 11:16:14 AM

Quote from: Oralmat on January 26, 2017, 10:57:14 AM

But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension.

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

As i said i don't want to take risk, even i know in small bet my money is already on the risk, and i am not winning all the time in gambling.
But i think you are wrong said that sports betting doesn't need Superior Skills? You know without skill and prediction you can't do bet, especially in sports betting, because other than games don't need skills because they are luck base game.

I think the skills are not necessary in sports betting. Sometimes when we are betting for a game, sometimes there between big teams and small teams. looks like going to be easy, it looks like a big team that will win. But sometimes the results can be surprising. Sometimes small teams beat big teams. So I think there is no skill in sports betting.

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Quote from: PokerFace3 on January 28, 2017, 07:10:05 AM

Quote from: aardvark15 on January 22, 2017, 08:45:09 AM

I tend to agree that you will eventually lose in gambling always. It's better to just gamble for entertainment rather than to make money.

If you open a poll then you will see 99% of people agreeing to it but still 90% of those guys would still gamble and of course for fortunes and quick profits only.

It is almost like studies we all know that it would be good for us and our future but yet we are always lazy to do that, the opposite of that is gambling. Maybe the next generation people at least gamble for right reason and must stay safer.

Yes.. because even though you know that it is not a profitable activity you still do it either for fun or to somehow "solve" your problems. It is not going to solve anything but you still want to do it. I agree with this idea that you lose in the long run but I still gambled.

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Quote from: Oralmat on January 28, 2017, 06:52:57 AM

Quote from: shulio on January 26, 2017, 11:16:14 AM

Quote from: Oralmat on January 26, 2017, 10:57:14 AM

But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension.

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

As i said i don't want to take risk, even i know in small bet my money is already on the risk, and i am not winning all the time in gambling.
But i think you are wrong said that sports betting doesn't need Superior Skills? You know without skill and prediction you can't do bet, especially in sports betting, because other than games don't need skills because they are luck base game.

I agree with shulio here, you don't need super skills only thing you have to do is check statistics, predict outcome and make bet.

Actually...

Quote from: Oralmat on January 28, 2017, 06:52:57 AM

You know without skill and prediction you can't do bet

...why not? You can't do bet without prediction on high odds and hope it will pass Grin

As you mention skills, can you tell us what skills do you use for sport bets, as you don't have any effect on outcome of match?

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Quote from: aardvark15 on January 22, 2017, 08:45:09 AM

I tend to agree that you will eventually lose in gambling always. It's better to just gamble for entertainment rather than to make money.

If you open a poll then you will see 99% of people agreeing to it but still 90% of those guys would still gamble and of course for fortunes and quick profits only.

It is almost like studies we all know that it would be good for us and our future but yet we are always lazy to do that, the opposite of that is gambling. Maybe the next generation people at least gamble for right reason and must stay safer.

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Quote from: shulio on January 26, 2017, 11:16:14 AM

Quote from: Oralmat on January 26, 2017, 10:57:14 AM

But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension.

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

As i said i don't want to take risk, even i know in small bet my money is already on the risk, and i am not winning all the time in gambling.
But i think you are wrong said that sports betting doesn't need Superior Skills? You know without skill and prediction you can't do bet, especially in sports betting, because other than games don't need skills because they are luck base game.

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Quote from: zagarcoin on January 22, 2017, 11:48:43 AM

Would be very difficult to win some profits by gambling, if you can gamble for fun and know when to stop, you will not suffer huge losses.

As quoted profiting from gambling is really hard. Lucky people get it easy, but luck too won't stand long. While understanding the real facts and knowing the limits user could have lost some amount on gambling. Gambling for fun alone gives a positive vibe as well an excitement.

People who are lucky do well at gambling but I am a very unlucky person and hence I prefer to work for my money rather than let luck earn it for me.

Again if we think that luck is always with us then we are making a big mistake because luck has the bad habit of simply slipping away from our hands.

We have to have proper self control which is why the emotional part is very important in gambling. If we cant control our emotions the we are going to lose no matter what. Its important also to cash out early and not keep on gambling.

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Quote from: shulio on January 26, 2017, 11:16:14 AM

Quote from: Oralmat on January 26, 2017, 10:57:14 AM

But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension.

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

Even though sports betting need skills to predict accurate results but at the end to win luck is a must factor because nowadays many matches have been fixed so we can't guess just based on their past performance. Also if you're very sure it is always good to bet only small amount instead going for big amount. Because it is alway a gambling and anything can happen.

It already happened a long time ago but we just open our eyes lately, it is because of the internet where information are easily shared for us to judge. I believe we have great chances this days since the information is open for free and we can use this to analyse games we like to bet. If we lose still in the long run, that means our skills is not enough to be exceptional.

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Quote from: shulio on January 26, 2017, 11:16:14 AM

Quote from: Oralmat on January 26, 2017, 10:57:14 AM

But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension.

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

Even though sports betting need skills to predict accurate results but at the end to win luck is a must factor because nowadays many matches have been fixed so we can't guess just based on their past performance. Also if you're very sure it is always good to bet only small amount instead going for big amount. Because it is alway a gambling and anything can happen.

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Quote from: olushakes on January 23, 2017, 10:25:11 AM

I will say it actually depends on the position one is looking at losses in gambling in the log run for individuals engaging in gambling like myself and couple of others, I will say yes it is true but same thing cannot be said to the gambling site which will continue to win whether short term or long term simply because 'the house will always win' for them there is never losses in the long run and that is why for the reputable gambling sites, they have stayed with us for years and still counting.

The house always win in long term because the more time passes the more people wager and hence the bigger profits for the site owner. In short term the wagered amount is less and hence some gamblers might win but as wagered amount increases gamblers loose more. You can see any gambler's profile on primedice and u will notice heavy bettors always in loss.

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Quote from: Punggawa on January 26, 2017, 06:28:47 AM

I think that not everyone lose in gambling for the long run
there's many of the people can survice and get a profit from gambling. We know is not easy to do that
we need a skill and lucky for sure.

Even most of them are surviving but still many of them are losing in the long run. Gambling is just created that way, so I do believe that we are just going to lose in the long run when we get too much exposure in gambling. But if you are that type of exceptional person that has a luck that's truly going to help you survive in the long run but I haven't heard that someone is like that.

We have to be exceptional to be able to succeed, it's not easy to win therefore we have to work hard to develop ourselves and be a successful gambler. Majority loses in the long run but there are few who were able to succeed, that means of the majority losers only few are focus on their goal.

Sometimes we gamble and aim for profit despite the reality that we are not ready yet and that results to being frustrated along the way.

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Quote from: Punggawa on January 26, 2017, 06:28:47 AM

I think that not everyone lose in gambling for the long run
there's many of the people can survice and get a profit from gambling. We know is not easy to do that
we need a skill and lucky for sure.

Even most of them are surviving but still many of them are losing in the long run. Gambling is just created that way, so I do believe that we are just going to lose in the long run when we get too much exposure in gambling. But if you are that type of exceptional person that has a luck that's truly going to help you survive in the long run but I haven't heard that someone is like that.

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Quote from: diegz on January 26, 2017, 07:58:37 PM

Quote from: shulio on January 26, 2017, 11:16:14 AM

Quote from: Oralmat on January 26, 2017, 10:57:14 AM

But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension.

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

Actually even without prediction from others, by just watching their games, you could have an idea who with the two has the greater chance to win in the game. Sports betting is still gambling and that means, even without knowledge, just by luck you could have a chance to win. But all of it would just end in losing in the long run, that's how gambling works, you win today and you will lose few bets after.

Thats right mate even how good you are reveiwing and analyzing the games but if luck is not behind you theres still big chances of losing in the long run as you mention its still gambling and its very hard to win from time to time the only pissible is to lessen your risk if you know how to review well.

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Quote from: shulio on January 26, 2017, 11:16:14 AM

Quote from: Oralmat on January 26, 2017, 10:57:14 AM

But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension.

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

Actually even without prediction from others, by just watching their games, you could have an idea who with the two has the greater chance to win in the game. Sports betting is still gambling and that means, even without knowledge, just by luck you could have a chance to win. But all of it would just end in losing in the long run, that's how gambling works, you win today and you will lose few bets after.

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Quote from: Oralmat on January 26, 2017, 10:57:14 AM

But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension.

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

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Quote from: Punggawa on January 26, 2017, 06:28:47 AM

I think that not everyone lose in gambling for the long run
there's many of the people can survice and get a profit from gambling. We know is not easy to do that
we need a skill and lucky for sure.

Definitely, we need skills and luck in gambling. But only a few people are here who make profit from gambling in a long run, and many people have lost everything in gambling. Because they have looses in the long run. But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension.

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Quote from: The_prodigy on January 21, 2017, 02:16:24 AM

THis is what i want to point to them not all people are looses when they playing or spend too much time on gambling some of them enjoying winning while others are loosing don't compare all people when they play gambling even a skilled people are loosing and newbie some are winning.

You are very right and most of it depends on luck. Some gamblers loses even in skill-based game maybe because they have missed something or did wrong so that's why sometimes they don't win. And newbies win because of pure luck.

It always depends on luck if you are just good for random bets and always depend on your luck sometimes the more you got to win in the end the more you got some loses its not all about skilled based but lucks more appropriate if you can handle with your coins then good to go.

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Quote from: MMA on January 26, 2017, 09:33:24 AM

Quote from: mishi44 on January 26, 2017, 04:02:33 AM

I hear if you are capable you sustain for long run and start making profits, but this tread is saying totally opposite. If you bet for small amount like 1$ then you can get more chances and thus this allows you to understand better on where to bet and where not to bet.

what is the definition of capable here in gambling. your experience? your money (investment) ? your strategy? your skill? or your luck? i think in gambling we cannot say it so confidently that who is capable in gambling and who is not, because some time an inexperience person make a lot of money, while some time a very poor person make millions over a night. so gambling is a game of luck and it mostly depend on our luck.

I agree with you in a way here. It doesn't matter if your bet is high or not. If the gambling type you chose are one of those that mainly rely on luck like dice, then you simply get 50/50 chance of winning. For slots though I don't think your chances are that high. so for long term, I agree that gambling is not a very good idea unless you're one lucky guy

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