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Topic: Everyone loses money when the market is down right? - page 17. (Read 22173 times)

newbie
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Not everyone. I have heard the saying that many loose for many to gain and vice versa, and this seems true most times. When you buy something, you loose money for the other person to gain. The other person loose the something for you to gain. so, if the something eventually worth more, days later, the seller just lost some values, and if otherwise, the buyer incurred two losses.  Market analysis is crazy really, but I'm sure some people even prefer market downtrend, cause of what they stand to gain after the market goes up.
newbie
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Virtually, if you are a Cryptocurrency investor, its a must that you would lose money if market is going down except you know technical analysis so that you would know when price is going down
newbie
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I bought some coin when price up but now price down so I hold my coin but now this is the good time to buy coin because market is down
newbie
Activity: 70
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Definitely yes! But we can prevent of getting lose by just holding our coins in our wallet. In that scenario, we can say that we will avoid of getting lose. However, holding of coins are always risking our capital and many investors are fear for their assets to be fade away. Therefore, only few investors succeed of holding from entire bear market
full member
Activity: 364
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Although Bitcoin may increase by several hundred million dollars a year, it should not blindly invest in this virtual currency. Anything that fluctuates 20-30% in a day is unstable. Therefore, investing in Bitcoin can lost all your possessions or you may be able to make a million dollars from it.

Yes it can make you lose a lot of your possessions but that is also the reason why you only need to invest a value that you can lose in this bear market, so keep on holding your coins today while the price is still low.
newbie
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No, the people who do shorts don't lose, they earn.
newbie
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Not everyone because it also serve as opportunity for many people to buy and make cool money... In the other way Rand some people do lost money when market is a little bit down
newbie
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Not everyone loses when the market goes down, usually when the market signals to go down the traders are converted to usdt and wait to buy at lower prices. You need to monitor and stoploss when necessary.
full member
Activity: 364
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most people have lost their money when the market goes down because they panic and sell coins they have at a low price, but not everyone loses, there are some who still think clearly and can even get money when the price goes down
jr. member
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When the prices are down in the market everybody is losing their money, I know this is not true. Many people benefit if some people lose investment. If there is a good idea about the market and the strategy is adopted then it is always possible to gain benefit from the market.
sr. member
Activity: 826
Merit: 265
NO its not,because many investors are looking for the market to go down,this is the moment they are waiting to buy another sets of coin to add in their portfolios

Yes many are crying when market drops,but it doesnt mean all of us losing ,this market is big and lots of opportunities to gain not just by daytrading but in long term investment also
member
Activity: 490
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We view the market with different perspective when some people analyses the market for a sell trade others views it as time to buy whichever way the market moves favours either the buyers or the sellers thus when the market moves down buyers are losers while sellers makes profits.
newbie
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When accepting investment, we should accept the loss of market losses if the market up we will earn a profit but if the market goes down we will lose some money. there. However, we should be optimistic tomorrow
jr. member
Activity: 70
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Not everyone in my opinion. I've seen some traders switch their coins to USDT after every time that they're earned profit.
This is a good way if the market is down, opposite term it's very very bad.
full member
Activity: 395
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Although Bitcoin may increase by several hundred million dollars a year, it should not blindly invest in this virtual currency. Anything that fluctuates 20-30% in a day is unstable. Therefore, investing in Bitcoin can lost all your possessions or you may be able to make a million dollars from it.
newbie
Activity: 114
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This is not necessarily true. There is a lot of profit taking when the market goes down as this will be an opportunity for them to buy large amounts of money at very low prices.
copper member
Activity: 672
Merit: 270
I learned in this situation that i should sell it when the time comes. There is no need to wait for more time. After a while the price starts to fall and you don't want to sell anymore. Afterwards it comes to a situation that we should sell at the lowest price.
Whenever I have the opportunity to sell my coin in a good value I am definitely grabbed it. It is true that there's no need to wait for more time when you know that the world of crypto market is inconsistent and this would vary anytime that's why I wouldn't want to missed this kind of opportunity.
sr. member
Activity: 798
Merit: 255
So with how much bitcoin and all the altcoins are down, is it even possible for any trader to make any money?  Example let say this.  You buy btc at a very low price due to these dips.  Now you could either keep btc or buy altcoins with it.  Now the market goes down every single day.  First off, does anyone know if btc or any altcoins ever have a day where the prices drop every single hour?  Or is that impossible?


Anyways, with how much all the coins are dropping, is it even possible for any trader to make money on days or weeks like this?  Im thinking its only possible if they make sure they sell it at the right hour and minute etc in order to profit.  But of course if they are down almost all day, how is it even possible for anyone to make any money?  Sure when the market goes back up in a while, and the price gets higher than they bought it at and now they sell, the profit.  However, the same ppl who hold the coins will profit as well.


Because doesn't it seem like there is no skill involved at all it seems?  Because if the market is down for a long time, what percentage of traders are even making any money when the market is down?  Of course if you got a coin at like 10 cents a long time ago and then it went to 5 dollars... and now because of this.. its now down to say 1 dollar, well you are still up money if you sell it now.  But the same ppl who got this coin probably got it at over 3 dollars and lost a huge percentage of its value.


So is it true almost everyone loses money when the market is down?  And almost everyone makes money when the market is up?  Because if btc goes up, the alts follow.  BTC drops, everything follows.  Its like there is zero skill at all almost.   Such that yes when it goes up, some altcoins might go up higher than others.  Also why do certain very good altcoins drop when btc drop if that project is very good etc?  Yes i know you need btc to get that coin and vice versa but its like its either everyone wins or everyone loses.


So right now market is down a lot especially for those who bought not that long ago.  So where is the skill here?  Its basically when to sell and when to buy right?  However, when market is down like this, who is damn making any money?  Because isn't almost everyone losing money?  The only ppl that i could see that likes this huge dip are those that have usd/usdt ready and picking when to buy.  Of course they could have waited till btc was 8k and thought great i buy now or buy alts and each of these already lost a lot already.


Who is making any money now when the market is down?  The ppl who are selling?  Surely not since the price they sell now is much less than before.  Also just curious but does this apply to stocks and forex trading as well?  I know that well stock market goes up, doesn't almost all the stocks all go up it seems?  The same can be said of forex or am i wrong here?  I only know forex is money trading with different currencies etc.  Because when you look at other things like poker or sportsbetting... someone is winning and someone is losing.  Also to anyone that bets sports or knows about sports, you might hear how all the wise guys are losing money.  Wise guys are sophisticated sharp bettors that are much smarter than your average joe.   That average joe most likely bets very square picks... meaning like obvious public teams etc.  However, the thing is the public does win.  And when they do that, sportsbook would lose money.  But usually they get it back and the average joe loses it back betting very public plays and the sophisticated bettors aka sharps win again.  However, i heard of sharps having really bad seasons etc.



So based on that, doesn't it seem like crypto trading is basically everyone wins or everyone loses?  Because in sportsbetting, yes the house does win and they house could also have a losing streak.  But eventually they win back the average joes money.  But if the average joe gets lucky and goes on a huge run whether betting favorites or underdogs or whatnot, its possible for him to win for a long time or lose for a long time.  Also let say you have a few players who are sharp sportsbettors and a few average joes.  Well if the sharp guys are winning, most likely the average joes are losing.  If the sharp guys are losing, average joes are most likely winning.  I say this because they usually play opposite plays most of the time.  But no matter what, someone has to win.  Whether its the sportsbook or the bettor.  Also in sportsbetting, there is something called live betting where its like trading.  Basically you can bet on either side while the game is going on when odds change always etc.  But when you live bet, if one player bets this team while another player bets another team... remember each of these players are betting against the sportsbook, one player will win... the other loses.  Thus that is where the skill comes in.  So does anyone here feel like the market dictating winning or losing is just stupid?  I mean if market is down, who is making any money?  Its like ppl say when there is a bull market, everyone thinks they are a genius.  Well if its a bull market, the only thing you have to think about is okay i will buy btc but should i exchange it for altcoin or not and which one.



Anyone here have thoughts or opinions on this?  I got excited about cryptocurrency and trading and wanted to do it.  But now when i look at it, its basically look at the market.  There doesn't seem to be any skill in it.  Can anyone here correct me with any of my statements especially if i made any especially in sportsbetting?  Thanks.
People that still hold never lose this is always crypto people tell us but the thing is we didn't know when our emotion can strike and it make us doubt sometimes and feel depress on it and some of us sell it because they are afraid that the price wont come up again.
jr. member
Activity: 33
Merit: 1
People who do not sell coins when prices fall, will not lose their money. And they are very smart people because they don't waste the opportunity to succeed. They know, the market will return to bullish in the near future.
sr. member
Activity: 1624
Merit: 250
I learned in this situation that i should sell it when the time comes. There is no need to wait for more time. After a while the price starts to fall and you don't want to sell anymore. Afterwards it comes to a situation that we should sell at the lowest price.
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