Topic: Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! - page 11. (Read 6668 times)

So. If a user Skypes me and verifies my identity, I can magically steal theirs! Because fuck logic

Scammers mad at users who don't keep their word.  The irony!

Typical scammy weaseling. You picked one concern that has been thoroughly explained (ibminer provided reasonable arguments why you can't be trusted even if you have a brother) and you mingled it with some pitty-whoring nonsense. There is more to it than just your alleged brother. You have exhibited many untrustworthy traits and your neg trust feedback reflects that.


Stop fishing for identities of forum users with your ridiculous skype demands.

If I wanted to do a "long con" I'd change my MAC, buy a VPN, and work on a new account immediately. This is an account that has a 13 page long "scam" report on it, and it has negative trust from 7 DT users. I had no reason at all to pay back aTriz, except for the fact that I'm not a scammer. The trust ratings certainly won't be removed, nobody will trust me with even $2 - but I'm glad I could rise above aTriz and keep my word, unlike him.

nullius, you and I have talked via PM, and I remember everything you talked to me about. Skype me - you can not only verify the way I look, but you can also interview me. I'll answer anything you want about bitcoin, about the forum, about our discussions, everything. This is the only form of valid proof that I see.

Well, set this aside for now.  I’m glad you answered how you found it.  Seems likely enough.

I see that theymos also found it funny, though he didn’t go back and merit it:

theymos’ negative feedback for #883539 “Amine14madrid ALT”
Date: 2016-08-01
Risked BTC amount: 0.00000000      
Reference: (none)


Note:  This archive is from gyazo.com, which Alia also uses.  I had difficulty with that; I can’t see pictures there, because that site refuses to display the image without Javascript (which I have disabled since the 90s).

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Now, Alia, I would appreciate if you would address what ibminer said.  Also this post by NLNico from some pages ago, which you seem to have ignored:


I ask this, not so much to prosecute you, but because I really did mean this:


I’m probably the only person on this entire forum who isn’t absolutely convinced that you are favours/revcback/Light/et al.  Closest thing to a friend you’ve still got here.  It would be nice if you could show some evidence of your identity better than “Skype me”, which your alleged (?) brother could also do:

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That struck me as not-scammy.  Me, at least; others don’t seem so impressed.  But really, all it means is that either you do have a conscience, or this is an impressive long con.  0.18 BTC could be an “investment”, worth much more down the road.  Yes, such is what this world has come to...

If you could prove that you are a different individual than your “brother”, that would go a long way toward showing that you returned that money for conscience.  Based on what I read at all the links others dug up, I’m not so sure that “if he was in the situation of taking 0.18 btc and running he would have no hesitation”.  I think he may return it to buy trust, so he could scam out more.

Are you him?  I hope you’re not.  If you’re not, then I might believe that you did that for conscience, yes; and that would show some basic common decency on your part.

Why should my rep be tarnished because of what my brother did? I'm sure that if he was in the situation of taking 0.18 btc and running he would have no hesitation, but I have a moral compass. Why am I being lynched for someone else's wrongdoings?

Ms. Zombie Horse,

as it has been explained in my PM to you, and also much more eloquently by ibminer two posts above, you're a scammer for reasons that have nothing to do with aTriz.

A bank robber who donates to a charity is still a bank robber.

Please use fewer fallacies and less whining in your next bank robbery scam attempt.

Thanks.
--sm.

Jeez. I noticed that account in theymos's red trust, thought it was funny, gave it merit. Don't read into it too much. I'm sure theymos can IP check.

Also, if you guys still believe I am a scammer, even after I repaid aTriz $2,000 even after he broke the contract then you are all braindead. RIP

SCAMMER
noun
1. a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, especially for making a quick profit; swindle.
verb (used with object), scammed, scamming.
2. to cheat or defraud with a scam.

confidence game: a swindle in which the victim is persuaded to trust the swindler in some way.
swindle: use deception to deprive (someone) of money or possessions.

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Your "brother" favours starts a similar cam service posing as an 18 year old girl, thus using deception to deprive someone of money or possessions.
https://archive.is/gfWso
Showing this image as himself: https://archive.is/fUKPe

Your "brother" revcback requests a fake ID that he can "print and use" with the name "Alia Armelle" using this image:
http://www.shivalikrecruiters.com/admin/album/1464158934771Shivalik_Recruiters_Candidates.jpg
which is the picture of some random candidate on a recruiting agency website.
also specifically requesting that it needs the birthdate of March 16, 1998 - making the fake ID be 19 years old (as Alia claimed to be when joining here). I'm sure something special was planned for a fake birthday event on March 16th, 2018 with the fake identity turning 20.

archived ID request (it has disappeared from Google): http://archive.is/eT0zY

revcback ("brother") also scamming fitbits back in July 2017, Singapore thinks he's a scammer and he risks himself & parents getting kicked out of Singapore:
(original reddit thread has been scrubbed)
full archive here
partial archive (excluding OP) here: http://archive.is/tSdju
... sounds like Singapore doesn't want him either.

You wanting to be verified on skype means absolutely nothing. Just like it meant nothing when you did it from your favours account in the same fashion:
https://archive.is/gfWso#selection-8169.51-8169.103
https://archive.is/gfWso#selection-8823.0-8832.1

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All of that without even getting into the other accounts:

At the end of the day, you are nowhere near a trustworthy account and deserve the red. Brother or not, nobody should trust an account that is easily accessible to a known scammer.

No Skype session will prove you to be trustworthy.
No gambling script will prove you to be trustworthy.


Ok, I think I'm done beating this horse... unless it wants to keep galloping?

Alright!


Done.


You shouldn't have! Anyway, that's nice of you!

I have a scintilla of a doubt here:  Perhaps this individual may genuinely believe, even obsessively believe that the script can perform as claimed.  I have seen such behaviour here before, in a context not involving monetary gain or scam accusations.

It began in the Vanitygen thread.  (I linked to the post which led into the discussion; continue reading downthread.)  With no obvious material motive, Jude Austin (a Legendary) claimed to have randomly found an address with funds on an imitator of directory.io.  Discussion ensued involving me, DannyHamilton, LoyceV, and dooglus on one side, and Jude Austin on the other.  Key points:




N.b. that Jude Austin spends his cycles on LBC, too.  Between “scammer” and “kook”, I will call the latter there.

Jude Austin subsequently began a thread in Technical Support titled, “I found a collision. The hard part is proving it.”  I did not participate in that thread, or even read it; life is too short.  Now, compare the title of Alia’s new thread.

In this overall context of this thread, the question arises of whether Alia be trying to build credibility for a future gambling scam, or sincerely trying to “prove” the mathematically impossible.

I have a minor side hobby of exercising skepticism upon kooks; and although many if not most are swindlers who knowingly deceive others for fame and fortune, some of them seemed sincerely obsessed with a kooky idea.  Alia is a self-described “degen” in matters of gambling.  You will laugh at me if I even bother to point out that many gamblers are obsessed.  She may be fixated on the idea of a winning script.  —Or maybe not.

If she ever tries to sell the damn thing again, that would conclusively show her motives.  As many others have said, I also wonder why she doesn’t shut up, gather up every satoshi in her wallet, and make herself rich with her winning script.

Partly to have my say, partly to help assess her motives, I will post a possibly-edited version of the foregoing in her thread and see whether she discusses it, or deletes it.  —  Edit:  Done:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.31351462

https://web.archive.org/web/20180301171902/https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.31351462
(Too bad, it looks like web.archive.org and ip.bitcointalk.org are not friends today.  This archive also preserves RGBKey’s post, minus his embedded equation image.)

Alia just started a new thread in the Gambling subforum titled Proving that my gambling script works.


One of the two sites (Cryptobust) also has an open scam accusation.
That was the wrong cryptobust, I assume the correct one is cryptobust.io

Edit: I have made a post about alia's chances of winning based on the terms she outlined in the above post.

Welcome to the internet, nullius  

For the record:  I still think that the identity of the person(s) controlling #1764044 “alia” is questionable.  (That’s part of the problem:  Questionable, with IP evidence weighing much more strongly than the user’s uncorroborated story.)  But there is no question that the account sold a fraudulent gambling script, scammed by lying about knowing Dave, and issued itself positive trust feedback (whether through an alt, or an alleged family member’s account—it doesn’t matter), among other misdeeds all worthy of being red-tagged to hell.  I say this according to the same standard I always apply to trust feedback.  Moreover, even under the most favourable (so to speak) assumption that the unlikely “little brother” story be true, that would make Alia the sister of a well-documented serial scammer (thanks: ibminer and NLNico), living in the same household as him and sharing computers and account info with him.  The more likely alternative theory:  “Alia” is him.

If Alia is actually a 19-year-old college girl who suffers a coincidental mix of bad luck, disreputable family, and a fast-and-loose attitude toward the truth, then I would suggest that she learn a lesson here, buckle down to her studies, take a long-term view of her future—and permaban her brother from ever even coming close to any of her computer equipment, ID cards, and account information.

For my part, I have here learned a hard lesson myself.

Before I stepped in and made “alia” famous, that account was quietly posting once or twice per day—mostly in loan-related threads, while maintaining NSFW threads.  The account had 52 merits from other users, mostly awarded after original “merit masturbation” post; but that had been a short-lived fad, quickly forgotten by almost everybody.

Within the span of less than a week, I picked up a Jr. account which had faded to obscurity, and brought it widespread attention—particularly from high-ranking members.  Not only attention, but credibility.  Though surely not all of it, much of “alia’s” public credibility was implicit, by association with me.

Moreover, I am almost certain that aTriz would never have even heard of “alia” if not for my actions—and I’m absolutely certain that he never would have given the account an unprecedented signature deal for a Jr. Member, if not for the association with me.  (Those who call him stupid for that, should ask if it would have been stupid to have given me the same deal when I was a Jr. Member.  aTriz did do some other quite foolish things here, as I expect he now realizes; but I think snapping up the signature of a “rising star” was just business savvy, albeit with a poorly-drafted contract.)  Obviously, aTriz is responsible for his own decisions just as I am for mine.  But I do still feel some sense of moral responsibility.  Sorry, aTriz.

In the future, I intend to be much more careful about whom I grant instant fame—with my own reputation on the line.  I never gave “alia” any positive endorsement of trustworthiness, via the formal trust system or otherwise.  But nevertheless:  Even what seems such a seemingly positive thing as a sexy merit bet and a titillating public romance can have serious consequences, if the recipient of my affections turns out to be a doorway to a whole closet full of skeletons.

Standard of evidence:  Reasonable, articulable suspicion.  Warrants examination.  Not “proved”.

Suspicious links:  Permabanned ban evader #813214 “amine14madrid”, #887705 “amine15madrid”, #888390 “amine16madrid”, and other known variations.

Archival reference: https://web.archive.org/web/20180301125625/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1572983.msg15790516#msg15790516

On 19 February 2018, “alia” awarded these two merits to the Meta appeal of a permabanned user known to commit ban evasion with alts (merit summary):


Again, “alia” sez, LOL, +1:


(imgur embeds have been changed to web.archive.org.  Of course, in the original posts, the images do not show as embeds due to account “Newbie” status.)

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I now have more to say on this topic.  I will deliberately double-post, as reasonably required by subject matter plus length.

@scam_detector, I request that you keep this thread open indefinitely.  Given what NLNico dug up, I suspect that this thread may carry on some long-term investigations—with potential connections to abuse on other forums as well as this one.

Also, I suggest that the OP subject line be changed since the aTriz matter has been split to its own thread.

P.S., check your trust page.

As I predicted. Now suddenly her MacBook is broken.  


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.31299231

Archive:
http://archive.is/mmS60#selection-2151.0-2151.80

I edited my above response, and I don't really endorse meeting girls like that, but I suppose it could be done.. My edits were meant to attempt to make my response a bit closer related to the topic of the thread.. I mean does anyone really want to meet an interweb girl and then attempt to reform her and then just have a kind of business relationship and then in the end you question whether she really is a she and what other baggage that she might have in the interpersonal skills arena?

tinder?

Well, yeah, we don't really want to be meeting girls online, even though a lot of girls, these days spend time online.

Also, meeting any girl in a business like relationship is probably not good either for resolving your virginity issue.

 Do you have any hobby in which you can meet regular and local girls besides the internet?   Yeah, meeting over the webs does not necessarily make for easy logistics, geographically speaking.

Or if you go to church then you can see some live girls, but I don't really agree with going to church, even though it could be a decent place to meet actual real girls, but maybe not DTF girls..? hahahahaha.  Although, frequently even seemingly shy girls will be willing to do a lot of passionate and intimate things as long as you push your own agenda in a way that is acceptable and you have something to offer, such as an interesting personality or some kind of mutual hobby.

For example, if you take up dancing as a hobby (partner dancing), then maybe you can meet girls through that - or some other ways, besides on the job meeting of "working girls" is not a seemingly good way to meet DTF girls.  Sometimes too, your hobby may partly depend on whether you are in a big city or not or the geographical area where you are concerning how easy it is to meet girls and preferably DTF girls... if you have prostitutes in your city than I suppose that it is BIG enough to have other activities, too, correct?

I am having my doubts whether alia is even a girl, so she might not be very helpful in this regard... she just seems to be decent at business items, and probably it is not good to find a girl like that, even assuming she is a girl.