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legendary
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September 02, 2017, 03:22:41 PM
That's how I know that often they don't even allow seeing eye dogs into the libraries, to say nothing about millions of them.

As humans evolved millions of dogs, they didn't take each one into a library, no.

Libraries didn't exist when mankind started evolving dogs.

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No provable species to species change.    Cool

Millions of people have proved otherwise.

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And that's part of the reason you can't show any proof, right?    Cool
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legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
September 02, 2017, 03:19:25 PM
That's how I know that often they don't even allow seeing eye dogs into the libraries, to say nothing about millions of them.

As humans evolved millions of dogs, they didn't take each one into a library, no.

Libraries didn't exist when mankind started evolving dogs.

Cool

No provable species to species change.    Cool

Millions of people have proved otherwise.

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legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
September 02, 2017, 03:17:22 PM
That's how I know that often they don't even allow seeing eye dogs into the libraries, to say nothing about millions of them.

As humans evolved millions of dogs, they didn't take each one into a library, no.

Libraries didn't exist when mankind started evolving dogs.

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No provable species to species change.    Cool
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legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
September 02, 2017, 03:15:43 PM
That's how I know that often they don't even allow seeing eye dogs into the libraries, to say nothing about millions of them.

As humans evolved millions of dogs, they didn't take each one into a library, no.

Libraries didn't exist when mankind started evolving dogs.

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legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
September 02, 2017, 03:12:55 PM
Actually, there isn't even one recorded instance of such. There might be a few assumptions, but no proof.

Actually, there are millions.  Visit a library.

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Often they don't even allow seeing eye dogs into the libraries.

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Then don't bring a dog.  Visit a library and educate yourself.

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That's how I know that often they don't even allow seeing eye dogs into the libraries, to say nothing about millions of them. You enjoy being dense, don't you. Wasn't a question.

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legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
September 02, 2017, 03:09:47 PM
Actually, there isn't even one recorded instance of such. There might be a few assumptions, but no proof.

Actually, there are millions.  Visit a library.

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Often they don't even allow seeing eye dogs into the libraries.

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Then don't bring a dog.  Visit a library and educate yourself.

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legendary
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Merit: 1373
September 02, 2017, 03:08:34 PM
Actually, there isn't even one recorded instance of such. There might be a few assumptions, but no proof.

Actually, there are millions.  Visit a library.

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Often they don't even allow seeing eye dogs into the libraries.

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legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
September 02, 2017, 02:46:00 PM
Actually, there isn't even one recorded instance of such. There might be a few assumptions, but no proof.

Actually, there are millions.  Visit a library.

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legendary
Activity: 3906
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September 02, 2017, 02:39:47 PM
Since you aren't talking species to species changes, we won't know what you are talking about until you tell us.

I'm talking about dogs proving evolution - species to species change.

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Actually, there isn't even one recorded instance of such. There might be a few assumptions, but no proof.

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legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
September 02, 2017, 02:34:21 PM
Since you aren't talking species to species changes, we won't know what you are talking about until you tell us.

I'm talking about dogs proving evolution - species to species change.

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full member
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September 02, 2017, 02:33:24 PM
Nobody has seen dogs evolve regarding species. All dog changes are in breeding. "But, but, but..." you will say. "The various species exist. So, they must have come about." So, you can play the game that there was species change without actually knowing it.

Millions of people have watched and guided dogs evolutions over the last few centuries.

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Have they? Grin
legendary
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September 02, 2017, 02:33:02 PM
Species aren't changing. They are simply being found, just like planets around stars.

Millions of people have guided dog's evolution over the past few centuries, and they have kept records.

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Since you aren't talking species to species changes, we won't know what you are talking about until you tell us.

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legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
September 02, 2017, 02:16:03 PM
Species aren't changing. They are simply being found, just like planets around stars.

Millions of people have guided dog's evolution over the past few centuries, and they have kept records.

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legendary
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September 02, 2017, 02:13:31 PM
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September 02, 2017, 09:01:05 AM
Nobody has seen dogs evolve regarding species. All dog changes are in breeding. "But, but, but..." you will say. "The various species exist. So, they must have come about." So, you can play the game that there was species change without actually knowing it.

Millions of people have watched and guided dogs evolutions over the last few centuries.

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So what? Dogs and people change. Check out the cemeteries. No species to species change, however. That form of evolution is a hoax.

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there were the two new species of American goatsbeards (or salsifies, genus Tragopogon) that sprung into existence in the past century. In the early 1900s, three species of these wildflowers - the western salsify (T. dubius), the meadow salsify (T. pratensis), and the oyster plant (T. porrifolius) - were introduced to the United States from Europe. As their populations expanded, the species interacted, often producing sterile hybrids. But by the 1950s, scientists realized that there were two new variations of goatsbeard growing. While they looked like hybrids, they weren't sterile. They were perfectly capable of reproducing with their own kind but not with any of the original three species - the classic definition of a new species.

But just because we can't see all speciation events from start to finish doesn't mean we can't see species splitting. If the theory of evolution is true, we would expect to find species in various stages of separation all over the globe. There would be ones that have just begun to split, showing reproductive isolation, and those that might still look like one species but haven't interbred for thousands of years. Indeed, that is exactly what we find.

The apple maggot fly, Rhagoletis pomonella is a prime example of a species just beginning to diverge. These flies are native to the United States, and up until the discovery of the Americas by Europeans, fed solely on hawthorns. But with the arrival of new people came a new potential food source to its habitat: apples. At first, the flies ignored the tasty treats. But over time, some flies realized they could eat the apples, too, and began switching trees. While alone this doesn't explain why the flies would speciate, a curious quirk of their biology does: apple maggot flies mate on the tree they're born on. As a few flies jumped trees, they cut themselves off from the rest of their species, even though they were but a few feet away. When geneticists took a closer look in the late 20th century, they found that the two types - those that feed on apples and those that feed on hawthorns - have different allele frequencies. Indeed, right under our noses, Rhagoletis pomonella began the long journey of speciation.

As we would expect, other animals are much further along in the process - although we don't always realize it until we look at their genes.

Orcas (Orcinus orca), better known as killer whales, all look fairly similar. They're big dolphins with black and white patches that hunt in packs and perform neat tricks at Sea World. But for several decades now, marine mammalogists have thought that there was more to the story. Behavioral studies have revealed that different groups of orcas have different behavioral traits. They feed on different animals, act differently, and even talk differently. But without a way to follow the whales underwater to see who they mate with, the scientists couldn't be sure if the different whale cultures were simply quirks passed on from generation to generation or a hint at much more.

Now, geneticists have done what the behavioral researchers could not. They looked at how the whales breed. When they looked at the entire mitochondrial genome from 139 different whales throughout the globe, they found dramatic differences. These data suggested there are indeed at least three different species of killer whale. Phylogenetic analysis indicated that the different species of orca have been separated for 150,000 to 700,000 years.
legendary
Activity: 3906
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September 02, 2017, 08:18:56 AM
Nobody has seen dogs evolve regarding species. All dog changes are in breeding. "But, but, but..." you will say. "The various species exist. So, they must have come about." So, you can play the game that there was species change without actually knowing it.

Millions of people have watched and guided dogs evolutions over the last few centuries.

Cool

So what? Dogs and people change. Check out the cemeteries. No species to species change, however. That form of evolution is a hoax.

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legendary
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September 02, 2017, 03:41:55 AM
We often hear Darwin's theory of evolution, but it seems that many people misunderstand this. People often say human ancestors are monkeys, but they are not. At least not that short, and that's not what Darwin meant. If drawn away, the ancestors of humans are the same as the ancestors of other creatures.even if drawn to the span of time more closely, we can not say that the ancestors of humans are monkeys or apes. But more precisely, monkeys and humans have the same ancestors. We, baboons, gorillas, orangutans and chimpanzees are in one Family, Hominidae and in one Order with monkeys that are equally classified into primates.
People often say human ancestors are monkeys..

And they are ..
We humans come from monkeys just the same as an ape come from a monkey..
The monkey come first not the ape so we humans and apes share a common ancestor the monkey ..
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legendary
Activity: 3668
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Licking my boob since 1970
September 02, 2017, 02:00:44 AM
Nobody has seen dogs evolve regarding species. All dog changes are in breeding. "But, but, but..." you will say. "The various species exist. So, they must have come about." So, you can play the game that there was species change without actually knowing it.

Millions of people have watched and guided dogs evolutions over the last few centuries.

Cool
sr. member
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September 01, 2017, 11:13:42 PM
We often hear Darwin's theory of evolution, but it seems that many people misunderstand this. People often say human ancestors are monkeys, but they are not. At least not that short, and that's not what Darwin meant. If drawn away, the ancestors of humans are the same as the ancestors of other creatures.even if drawn to the span of time more closely, we can not say that the ancestors of humans are monkeys or apes. But more precisely, monkeys and humans have the same ancestors. We, baboons, gorillas, orangutans and chimpanzees are in one Family, Hominidae and in one Order with monkeys that are equally classified into primates.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
September 01, 2017, 10:52:00 PM
Evolution means change. But there are some changes that have not happened. Speces to different species is one of them.

Evolution does mean change.

We can see how dogs have evolved since your fairy tale flood, and prove it happens. 

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Nobody has seen dogs evolve regarding species. All dog changes are in breeding. "But, but, but..." you will say. "The various species exist. So, they must have come about." So, you can play the game that there was species change without actually knowing it.

There is absolutely no proof that each dog species didn't develop in evolution completely independently. "That's absurd," you might say. But why is it absurd? After all, it is essentially impossible for the required numbers of molecular changes to happen, to make evolution at all! So, if they are going to happen, why not go all the way and claim that the natural selection for various dog species was in the works, and they all developed independently?

Play the evolution science fiction game if you want. But why continue to lie to us like you know how it worked in reality? And especially in the face of cause and effect which (at worst) suggests that these kinds of changes are impossible without a programmer to program nature into making the changes. And now we are talking about a programmer who is way beyond anything we can understand.

We need to change our definitions of God to express how powerful He actually is, rather than to suggest that He is only almighty.

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