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Bonobo builds a fire and toasts marshmallows - Monkey ... - YouTube
Video for bonobo documentary youtube▶ 1:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQcN7lHSD5Y

The Bonobos Ape (Nature Documentary) - YouTube
Video for bonobo documentary bbc▶ 47:21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2OOB-dH1s4

Humans cousins^^ ..


Frogs just like apes and humans..

Moreover, frogs and toads are also both members of the same order — Anura — which means that they're closely related and share many similar characteristics. There are hundreds of individual species of frogs and toads within the Anura order..

Normally when frogs and toads share the same pond, their mating occurs at different times. However, occasionally a late coming frog may turn up on the toad dating scene..
You may see them trying to mate each other but the union will be sterile..

You tell jokes to say evolution is a hoax ..


One can tame and train all kinds of animals to do all kinds of things. Who trained you your evolution religion?

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One can tame and train all kinds of animals to do all kinds of things..

An animal can train all kinds of humans to do all kind of things..


Ukranian Girl Raised by Dogs - with Captions - YouTube
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Bonobo builds a fire and toasts marshmallows - Monkey ... - YouTube
Video for bonobo documentary youtube▶ 1:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQcN7lHSD5Y

The Bonobos Ape (Nature Documentary) - YouTube
Video for bonobo documentary bbc▶ 47:21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2OOB-dH1s4

Humans cousins^^ ..


Frogs just like apes and humans..

Moreover, frogs and toads are also both members of the same order — Anura — which means that they're closely related and share many similar characteristics. There are hundreds of individual species of frogs and toads within the Anura order..

Normally when frogs and toads share the same pond, their mating occurs at different times. However, occasionally a late coming frog may turn up on the toad dating scene..
You may see them trying to mate each other but the union will be sterile..

You tell jokes to say evolution is a hoax ..


One can tame and train all kinds of animals to do all kinds of things. Who trained you your evolution religion?

Cool
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Bonobo builds a fire and toasts marshmallows - Monkey ... - YouTube
Video for bonobo documentary youtube▶ 1:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQcN7lHSD5Y

The Bonobos Ape (Nature Documentary) - YouTube
Video for bonobo documentary bbc▶ 47:21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2OOB-dH1s4

Humans cousins^^ ..


Frogs just like apes and humans..

Moreover, frogs and toads are also both members of the same order — Anura — which means that they're closely related and share many similar characteristics. There are hundreds of individual species of frogs and toads within the Anura order..

Normally when frogs and toads share the same pond, their mating occurs at different times. However, occasionally a late coming frog may turn up on the toad dating scene..
You may see them trying to mate each other but the union will be sterile..

You tell jokes to say evolution is a hoax ..



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Is Evolution a Theory or a Fact?

It is both. But that answer requires looking more deeply at the meanings of the words "theory" and "fact."

In everyday usage, "theory" often refers to a hunch or a speculation. When people say, "I have a theory about why that happened," they are often drawing a conclusion based on fragmentary or inconclusive evidence.

The formal scientific definition of theory is quite different from the everyday meaning of the word. It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence.

Many scientific theories are so well-established that no new evidence is likely to alter them substantially. For example, no new evidence will demonstrate that the Earth does not orbit around the sun (heliocentric theory), or that living things are not made of cells (cell theory), that matter is not composed of atoms, or that the surface of the Earth is not divided into solid plates that have moved over geological timescales (the theory of plate tectonics). Like these other foundational scientific theories, the theory of evolution is supported by so many observations and confirming experiments that scientists are confident that the basic components of the theory will not be overturned by new evidence. However, like all scientific theories, the theory of evolution is subject to continuing refinement as new areas of science emerge or as new technologies enable observations and experiments that were not possible previously.

One of the most useful properties of scientific theories is that they can be used to make predictions about natural events or phenomena that have not yet been observed. For example, the theory of gravitation predicted the behavior of objects on the moon and other planets long before the activities of spacecraft and astronauts confirmed them. The evolutionary biologists who discovered Tiktaalik predicted that they would find fossils intermediate between fish and limbed terrestrial animals in sediments that were about 375 million years old. Their discovery confirmed the prediction made on the basis of evolutionary theory. In turn, confirmation of a prediction increases confidence in that theory.

In science, a "fact" typically refers to an observation, measurement, or other form of evidence that can be expected to occur the same way under similar circumstances. However, scientists also use the term "fact" to refer to a scientific explanation that has been tested and confirmed so many times that there is no longer a compelling reason to keep testing it or looking for additional examples. In that respect, the past and continuing occurrence of evolution is a scientific fact. Because the evidence supporting it is so strong, scientists no longer question whether biological evolution has occurred and is continuing to occur. Instead, they investigate the mechanisms of evolution, how rapidly evolution can take place, and related questions..


I wonder if we will ever evolve enough to not believe in sky monsters ..
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It's not about the number either. I explained it to you but you just didn't understand. I mean I said humans have different number of chromosomes than their ancestors yet they are their ancestors. Our chromosome 2 developed from fusion of Hominidae chromosomes 2A and 2B is a falsifiable claim.

Every now and then, chromosomes fuse. This fusion occurs as sperm and eggs develop, as pairs of chromosomes fold over each other and swap chunks of DNA. Sometimes two different chromosomes grab onto each other and then fail to separate.

Scientists have observed both humans and mammals with fused chromosomes. Chromosomes typically have distinctive stretches of DNA in their center and at their ends. From time to time, scientists will find an individual that’s short a chromosome, but one of the chromosomes it retains now has an odd structure, with chromosome endings near the middle and other peculiar features.

This might seem like a fantastic mutation–something like a human and a horse being joined into a centaur. Remarkably, however, fused chromosomes are real, and there are surprising number of normal, healthy people carrying them.

If humans and apes did indeed share a common ancestor, then it would make sense that two chromosomes fused in our ancestors. The rise of genome sequencing allowed them to test that hypothesis. They found that human chromosome two bears the hallmarks of an ancient chromosome fusion, with remnants of chromosome ends nestled at its core. In 2005, it became possible to test the hypothesis again, when a team of scientists sequenced the chimpanzee genome and could compare it to the human genome. The chimp genome team were able to match human chromosome two to two unfused chromosomes in the chimpanzee genome.

You and a bunch of other people were there to watch this all happen, right? Don't you see that all of the evolution argument is based on assumptions that things happened in this way or that? All of evolution is a good story that people have thought up, to connect happenings in nature in ways that nobody has seen happen. Further, these connections are unlikely, and have multitudes of other reasons for their happenings, as well. Even further, there are all kinds of things in nature that show that evolution is impossible.

Evolution is a good science fiction story. Read the science fiction Skylark series, written by Edward E. (Doc) Smith. Notice the "Doc" in his name. Why did they call him "Doc." Because he took real science, looked at the direction it was going, and extrapolated. But his extrapolations were wrong in many areas.

All the evolution idea is, is an extrapolation into the past. Multitudes of things of the evolution extrapolation are wrong. Most of all of it could never be proven, even if we had a time viewer to look at what happened... because we couldn't follow the processes even if we were looking right at them while they were happening.

Evolution is a great science fiction story. The bad part about it is that it has become a religion for many. But it is a false religion, that is destroying the lives of many. And it is a religion for you, Astargath. How do we know? Because most of everything you post about evolution is religious writing. You argue evolution like it is a religion.

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Were you there to see god making the universe? What kind of retarded argument is that. There is no way to go back in time and watch things happen. What is your point? They are assumptions based on evidence. By your logic we would never catch criminals or murderers if no one was there to see the murder. Evolution theory is like a murder case. You have dna of the killer, you have a motive, you found the weapon in his truck with his fingerprints and blood from the victim. You don't need eye witnesses or a camera to know he did it, sure eye witnesses are good evidence but you can't convict someone just because someone else said he saw him do it, what if he is lying, what if he saw it wrong. With dna, motive and the weapon you can be sure who the killer was.

We see God making the universe in 3 things:
1. The universe had a beginning as shown by entropy;
2. Evolution and all of the things other than God that we attribute to part of the making of the universe can't be proven, and do not even have any strong evidence;
3. Complexity, which does not happen on its own spontaneously (if it did, you could throw a handful of sand into the air and get something complex out of it), exists in such greatness that mankind can't figure it out.

At best, people can close their eyes and their minds, and say that they have no idea where everything came from. Rather than do this, people do the worst by thinking claiming that their puny intellects have found that some science fiction is truth. If they were humbly honest, they would say that we aren't even close to understanding how the universe came into being through scientific observation of this fiction.

The best we have is that there was some great intelligence that started the universe. The term "God" describes that intelligence. In fact, that term is extremely lacking when trying to explain the greatness and magnificence of every aspect of God. God isn't really God the way the dictionaries and encyclopedias say. Rather, the references are a pale weakness when trying to express the greatness of God.

Mitochndrial DNA shows that all people came from one mother. When this happened - the time that it happened - is based on all kinds of flawed thinking about the length of time from the entropically shown beginning.

You don't need witnesses. OJ's government case against him fell at first because the DNA was improperly handled by government. Now scientists are trying to twist non-handling of DNA into evidence of evolution, when there is all kinds of evidence that DNA shows that the first woman was only 10,000 years back in the past from right now.

You don't need witnesses, but when you have them, they show how to understand the evidence. The Bible witnesses show that today's standard science is all mixed up regarding the past of DNA.

The steps of evolution scientists might be funny to watch. But they are nothing when compared with reality.

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Remarkably, however, fused chromosomes are real, and there are surprising number of normal, healthy people carrying them.

How is that, that the fision in human create the normal human, and a human ancestor (lets fantasise now for the sake of fantasy) was not only a normal human ancestor but became a human?

Magic? Give them some time?

For me it looks like this logic:

We can have a condition x. So maybe a condition of x and y can create whatever we think it could have, like gold from lead. Noone ever seen condintion x and y at the same time, so maybe having that condition could open the portal for other dimension. Right now we have a condition x, so the work on interdimensional portal is on its way.

Seriously? It looks like you are making this voodoo science intentionaly unverifiable. You just want to make it look like work is in progress.

Love of money is truely the root of all evil. In this case the love for scientific project money is the root of evolution. Its too good to miss money, and easy - noone will verify it, as everyone wants its holy grail.

What?

''Our chromosome 2 developed from fusion of Hominidae chromosomes 2A and 2B is a falsifiable claim.'' You know what falsifiable means? I don't know what you mean that I'm making science unverifiable, it is perfectly verifiable. Is not my problem that you don't understand enough science to understand what I was talking about. It usually happens when someone is trying to deny evolution.


I know your x is falsifiable. You can convince general audience with pseudoscientific jargon. I get that. But x and y claims are not falsifiable. You do not have the y - that is an evidences that your fusion actualy does anything, because as you have said it does nothing.

You know? Such a small detail - like cause and effect. You have the supposed cause but that cause causes no factual effect.

You know. My super mambo jambo patent is falsifiable. What can I do with it? Right now nothing, but when I will have mambo dambo with mambo jambo you would see Great mega hiper amazing amazement.

You have to believe me... It will work miracles. Its so amazing.
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Remarkably, however, fused chromosomes are real, and there are surprising number of normal, healthy people carrying them.

How is that, that the fision in human create the normal human, and a human ancestor (lets fantasise now for the sake of fantasy) was not only a normal human ancestor but became a human?

Magic? Give them some time?

For me it looks like this logic:

We can have a condition x. So maybe a condition of x and y can create whatever we think it could have, like gold from lead. Noone ever seen condintion x and y at the same time, so maybe having that condition could open the portal for other dimension. Right now we have a condition x, so the work on interdimensional portal is on its way.

Seriously? It looks like you are making this voodoo science intentionaly unverifiable. You just want to make it look like work is in progress.

Love of money is truely the root of all evil. In this case the love for scientific project money is the root of evolution. Its too good to miss money, and easy - noone will verify it, as everyone wants its holy grail.

What?

''Our chromosome 2 developed from fusion of Hominidae chromosomes 2A and 2B is a falsifiable claim.'' You know what falsifiable means? I don't know what you mean that I'm making science unverifiable, it is perfectly verifiable. Is not my problem that you don't understand enough science to understand what I was talking about. It usually happens when someone is trying to deny evolution.
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August 25, 2017, 12:21:43 PM
It's not about the number either. I explained it to you but you just didn't understand. I mean I said humans have different number of chromosomes than their ancestors yet they are their ancestors. Our chromosome 2 developed from fusion of Hominidae chromosomes 2A and 2B is a falsifiable claim.

Every now and then, chromosomes fuse. This fusion occurs as sperm and eggs develop, as pairs of chromosomes fold over each other and swap chunks of DNA. Sometimes two different chromosomes grab onto each other and then fail to separate.

Scientists have observed both humans and mammals with fused chromosomes. Chromosomes typically have distinctive stretches of DNA in their center and at their ends. From time to time, scientists will find an individual that’s short a chromosome, but one of the chromosomes it retains now has an odd structure, with chromosome endings near the middle and other peculiar features.

This might seem like a fantastic mutation–something like a human and a horse being joined into a centaur. Remarkably, however, fused chromosomes are real, and there are surprising number of normal, healthy people carrying them.

If humans and apes did indeed share a common ancestor, then it would make sense that two chromosomes fused in our ancestors. The rise of genome sequencing allowed them to test that hypothesis. They found that human chromosome two bears the hallmarks of an ancient chromosome fusion, with remnants of chromosome ends nestled at its core. In 2005, it became possible to test the hypothesis again, when a team of scientists sequenced the chimpanzee genome and could compare it to the human genome. The chimp genome team were able to match human chromosome two to two unfused chromosomes in the chimpanzee genome.

You and a bunch of other people were there to watch this all happen, right? Don't you see that all of the evolution argument is based on assumptions that things happened in this way or that? All of evolution is a good story that people have thought up, to connect happenings in nature in ways that nobody has seen happen. Further, these connections are unlikely, and have multitudes of other reasons for their happenings, as well. Even further, there are all kinds of things in nature that show that evolution is impossible.

Evolution is a good science fiction story. Read the science fiction Skylark series, written by Edward E. (Doc) Smith. Notice the "Doc" in his name. Why did they call him "Doc." Because he took real science, looked at the direction it was going, and extrapolated. But his extrapolations were wrong in many areas.

All the evolution idea is, is an extrapolation into the past. Multitudes of things of the evolution extrapolation are wrong. Most of all of it could never be proven, even if we had a time viewer to look at what happened... because we couldn't follow the processes even if we were looking right at them while they were happening.

Evolution is a great science fiction story. The bad part about it is that it has become a religion for many. But it is a false religion, that is destroying the lives of many. And it is a religion for you, Astargath. How do we know? Because most of everything you post about evolution is religious writing. You argue evolution like it is a religion.

Cool

Were you there to see god making the universe? What kind of retarded argument is that. There is no way to go back in time and watch things happen. What is your point? They are assumptions based on evidence. By your logic we would never catch criminals or murderers if no one was there to see the murder. Evolution theory is like a murder case. You have dna of the killer, you have a motive, you found the weapon in his truck with his fingerprints and blood from the victim. You don't need eye witnesses or a camera to know he did it, sure eye witnesses are good evidence but you can't convict someone just because someone else said he saw him do it, what if he is lying, what if he saw it wrong. With dna, motive and the weapon you can be sure who the killer was.
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August 25, 2017, 12:02:25 PM
Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

Why does regular milk still exist now that chocolate milk is here?
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It's not about the number either. I explained it to you but you just didn't understand. I mean I said humans have different number of chromosomes than their ancestors yet they are their ancestors. Our chromosome 2 developed from fusion of Hominidae chromosomes 2A and 2B is a falsifiable claim.

Every now and then, chromosomes fuse. This fusion occurs as sperm and eggs develop, as pairs of chromosomes fold over each other and swap chunks of DNA. Sometimes two different chromosomes grab onto each other and then fail to separate.

Scientists have observed both humans and mammals with fused chromosomes. Chromosomes typically have distinctive stretches of DNA in their center and at their ends. From time to time, scientists will find an individual that’s short a chromosome, but one of the chromosomes it retains now has an odd structure, with chromosome endings near the middle and other peculiar features.

This might seem like a fantastic mutation–something like a human and a horse being joined into a centaur. Remarkably, however, fused chromosomes are real, and there are surprising number of normal, healthy people carrying them.

If humans and apes did indeed share a common ancestor, then it would make sense that two chromosomes fused in our ancestors. The rise of genome sequencing allowed them to test that hypothesis. They found that human chromosome two bears the hallmarks of an ancient chromosome fusion, with remnants of chromosome ends nestled at its core. In 2005, it became possible to test the hypothesis again, when a team of scientists sequenced the chimpanzee genome and could compare it to the human genome. The chimp genome team were able to match human chromosome two to two unfused chromosomes in the chimpanzee genome.

You and a bunch of other people were there to watch this all happen, right? Don't you see that all of the evolution argument is based on assumptions that things happened in this way or that? All of evolution is a good story that people have thought up, to connect happenings in nature in ways that nobody has seen happen. Further, these connections are unlikely, and have multitudes of other reasons for their happenings, as well. Even further, there are all kinds of things in nature that show that evolution is impossible.

Evolution is a good science fiction story. Read the science fiction Skylark series, written by Edward E. (Doc) Smith. Notice the "Doc" in his name. Why did they call him "Doc." Because he took real science, looked at the direction it was going, and extrapolated. But his extrapolations were wrong in many areas.

All the evolution idea is, is an extrapolation into the past. Multitudes of things of the evolution extrapolation are wrong. Most of all of it could never be proven, even if we had a time viewer to look at what happened... because we couldn't follow the processes even if we were looking right at them while they were happening.

Evolution is a great science fiction story. The bad part about it is that it has become a religion for many. But it is a false religion, that is destroying the lives of many. And it is a religion for you, Astargath. How do we know? Because most of everything you post about evolution is religious writing. You argue evolution like it is a religion.

Cool
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Remarkably, however, fused chromosomes are real, and there are surprising number of normal, healthy people carrying them.

How is that, that the fision in human create the normal human, and a human ancestor (lets fantasise now for the sake of fantasy) was not only a normal human ancestor but became a human?

Magic? Give them some time?

For me it looks like this logic:

We can have a condition x. So maybe a condition of x and y can create whatever we think it could have, like gold from lead. Noone ever seen condintion x and y at the same time, so maybe having that condition could open the portal for other dimension. Right now we have a condition x, so the work on interdimensional portal is on its way.

Seriously? It looks like you are making this voodoo science intentionaly unverifiable. You just want to make it look like work is in progress.

Love of money is truely the root of all evil. In this case the love for scientific project money is the root of evolution. Its too good to miss money, and easy - noone will verify it, as everyone wants its holy grail.
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August 25, 2017, 07:34:37 AM
There has been no definite evidence to prove these theories at all. Shouldn't all monkeys have evolved to being man by now.

Here i absolutly agree with it!
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It's not about the number either. I explained it to you but you just didn't understand. I mean I said humans have different number of chromosomes than their ancestors yet they are their ancestors. Our chromosome 2 developed from fusion of Hominidae chromosomes 2A and 2B is a falsifiable claim.

Every now and then, chromosomes fuse. This fusion occurs as sperm and eggs develop, as pairs of chromosomes fold over each other and swap chunks of DNA. Sometimes two different chromosomes grab onto each other and then fail to separate.

Scientists have observed both humans and mammals with fused chromosomes. Chromosomes typically have distinctive stretches of DNA in their center and at their ends. From time to time, scientists will find an individual that’s short a chromosome, but one of the chromosomes it retains now has an odd structure, with chromosome endings near the middle and other peculiar features.

This might seem like a fantastic mutation–something like a human and a horse being joined into a centaur. Remarkably, however, fused chromosomes are real, and there are surprising number of normal, healthy people carrying them.

If humans and apes did indeed share a common ancestor, then it would make sense that two chromosomes fused in our ancestors. The rise of genome sequencing allowed them to test that hypothesis. They found that human chromosome two bears the hallmarks of an ancient chromosome fusion, with remnants of chromosome ends nestled at its core. In 2005, it became possible to test the hypothesis again, when a team of scientists sequenced the chimpanzee genome and could compare it to the human genome. The chimp genome team were able to match human chromosome two to two unfused chromosomes in the chimpanzee genome.
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We share a common ancestor with other primates, please read and inform yourself before making assumptions
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If we us an academics approach evolution is real, they have proof of the steps and progress of human from apes, however from any religious perspectives there is no reason tho believes that as in any holy bible they always wrote that man is god creation. So which one are you feeling now being religious or academics?

I would believe the bible rather than these pathetic scientists that are talking against religions and saying that people came from apes. Well try to prove it then by studying it, put them into a studying cubicle and let's see how apes can evolve into human being.
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