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legendary
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May 30, 2017, 11:17:04 AM

My then maybe is a perfectly fine conclusion from cause and effect showing how easily you can come up with conclusions using cause and effect, nowhere does cause and effect show that God was the first cause, it only suggests that there was a first cause, sure, how do you know what it was? You dont.

Limiting words such as those used to ''debunk'' the theory of evolution? What are those exactly, show me a specific example of what I wrote that was limiting to you and we will discuss it.

Probably the simplest limiting word is the word "if." IF this, that, and the other were true, then evolution might be true. "Might," another limiting word. You can go back and find all of them if you want. But you need to go slowly so yo don't miss them.

Using cause and effect in this thread is on-topic because it helps to show that evolution is a hoax. Using cause and effect to show God would probably be off topic. Does it tie in with evolution somehow? I mean, God isn't necessarily the only alternative to evolution, is He?

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Except all empirical (evolution in bacteria) and physical evidence points to evolution.  All evidence confirms the same conclusion.

With God hypothesis, you can't even define what it is you want to prove.  Never mind proving that 'something' is responsible to the evolutionary changes we observe.

What is next? You'll say that God 'programmed' evolution in his ultimate wisdom, but forgot to update the 'holy' books?

C'mon, you cannot be that stupid.


Except that all the evidence shows that the standard understanding of evolution doesn't consider cause and effect programming, which entirely eliminates evolution.

There isn't any God hypothesis since there is proof for God.

Since evolution is not known to exist, how can anyone say that God (Who has been proven to exist) programmed it? We can guess that evolution exists. Then we can further guess that God programmed it. But if we do this, then we would have to describe evolution anew, because the current descriptions of evolution don't fit something that has been programmed.

And, you are right. I am not that stupid. I'm not even stupid enough to ask how stupid you are?

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No it doesn't. What you are basically saying is that god programmed everything to look like it's evolution but it's not just to deceive us? Or what is it? Lots of things are imperfect, we are, animals are, God definitely didn't do a great job but it's better to believe that God did it instead of looking at the empirical evidence (overwhelming evidence) proving that evolution is in fact real. Every science that has to do with evolution is wrong, millions of scientists, now and many years ago are all wrong, they are all lying because they have some sort of agenda against God. The reality is different, evolution exists and it's used in applications in real life that also work.

Creationism does not contribute to anything, show me something that we made based on creationism or God. Science works and you wouldn't be typing this retarded shit if science didnt.

Nobody has to recognize God when looking at simple cause and effect. Sure, cause and effect looks like God is behind it, but alone, cause and effect doesn't prove God.

The point is that programmed evolution does not fit the current descriptions of evolution.

Cause and effect is science law, is upheld by Newton's 3rd law, is in evidence for everyone in his daily life, and cannot be refuted.

Evolution is theory, not law. All evolution evidences can be assigned as being evidence of something else - natural protection agencies at work, or programming through cause and effect, etc.

Because of these things - which scientists have all realized - evolution cannot exist as it known, and therefore, is a hoax being perpetrated on the unsuspecting populace of the world.

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Evolution 'Theory' is as real as 'Theory of Gravity' or 'General Theory of Relativity'.

It is not to say there is any doubt about what these theories describe.  The theories describe what has been validated by observations.

The term 'theory' used in this context is not the same as a colloquial use of that term as in "That stuff is theoretical we need concrete evidence".

All scientific theories start as hypothesis, then become theories that go through review, validation and re-validation countless times, some are accepted as fact, some are rejected.

Evolution, gravity and relativity are facts today.  Not some wild guesses.

Every scientist in the world was trying to disprove the above theories (some are still trying), with no luck.


legendary
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May 30, 2017, 11:05:46 AM

My then maybe is a perfectly fine conclusion from cause and effect showing how easily you can come up with conclusions using cause and effect, nowhere does cause and effect show that God was the first cause, it only suggests that there was a first cause, sure, how do you know what it was? You dont.

Limiting words such as those used to ''debunk'' the theory of evolution? What are those exactly, show me a specific example of what I wrote that was limiting to you and we will discuss it.

Probably the simplest limiting word is the word "if." IF this, that, and the other were true, then evolution might be true. "Might," another limiting word. You can go back and find all of them if you want. But you need to go slowly so yo don't miss them.

Using cause and effect in this thread is on-topic because it helps to show that evolution is a hoax. Using cause and effect to show God would probably be off topic. Does it tie in with evolution somehow? I mean, God isn't necessarily the only alternative to evolution, is He?

Cool

Except all empirical (evolution in bacteria) and physical evidence points to evolution.  All evidence confirms the same conclusion.

With God hypothesis, you can't even define what it is you want to prove.  Never mind proving that 'something' is responsible to the evolutionary changes we observe.

What is next? You'll say that God 'programmed' evolution in his ultimate wisdom, but forgot to update the 'holy' books?

C'mon, you cannot be that stupid.


Except that all the evidence shows that the standard understanding of evolution doesn't consider cause and effect programming, which entirely eliminates evolution.

There isn't any God hypothesis since there is proof for God.

Since evolution is not known to exist, how can anyone say that God (Who has been proven to exist) programmed it? We can guess that evolution exists. Then we can further guess that God programmed it. But if we do this, then we would have to describe evolution anew, because the current descriptions of evolution don't fit something that has been programmed.

And, you are right. I am not that stupid. I'm not even stupid enough to ask how stupid you are?

Cool

No it doesn't. What you are basically saying is that god programmed everything to look like it's evolution but it's not just to deceive us? Or what is it? Lots of things are imperfect, we are, animals are, God definitely didn't do a great job but it's better to believe that God did it instead of looking at the empirical evidence (overwhelming evidence) proving that evolution is in fact real. Every science that has to do with evolution is wrong, millions of scientists, now and many years ago are all wrong, they are all lying because they have some sort of agenda against God. The reality is different, evolution exists and it's used in applications in real life that also work.

Creationism does not contribute to anything, show me something that we made based on creationism or God. Science works and you wouldn't be typing this retarded shit if science didnt.

Nobody has to recognize God when looking at simple cause and effect. Sure, cause and effect looks like God is behind it, but alone, cause and effect doesn't prove God.

The point is that programmed (by all-pervading cause and effect) evolution does not fit the current descriptions of evolution.

Cause and effect is science law, is upheld by Newton's 3rd law, is in evidence for everyone in his daily life, and cannot be refuted.

Evolution is theory, not law. All evolution evidences can be assigned as being evidence of something else - natural protection agencies at work, programming through cause and effect, etc.

Because of these things - which scientists have all realized - evolution cannot exist as it known, and therefore, is a hoax being perpetrated on the unsuspecting populace of the world.

Cool
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May 30, 2017, 10:51:35 AM

My then maybe is a perfectly fine conclusion from cause and effect showing how easily you can come up with conclusions using cause and effect, nowhere does cause and effect show that God was the first cause, it only suggests that there was a first cause, sure, how do you know what it was? You dont.

Limiting words such as those used to ''debunk'' the theory of evolution? What are those exactly, show me a specific example of what I wrote that was limiting to you and we will discuss it.

Probably the simplest limiting word is the word "if." IF this, that, and the other were true, then evolution might be true. "Might," another limiting word. You can go back and find all of them if you want. But you need to go slowly so yo don't miss them.

Using cause and effect in this thread is on-topic because it helps to show that evolution is a hoax. Using cause and effect to show God would probably be off topic. Does it tie in with evolution somehow? I mean, God isn't necessarily the only alternative to evolution, is He?

Cool

Except all empirical (evolution in bacteria) and physical evidence points to evolution.  All evidence confirms the same conclusion.

With God hypothesis, you can't even define what it is you want to prove.  Never mind proving that 'something' is responsible to the evolutionary changes we observe.

What is next? You'll say that God 'programmed' evolution in his ultimate wisdom, but forgot to update the 'holy' books?

C'mon, you cannot be that stupid.


Except that all the evidence shows that the standard understanding of evolution doesn't consider cause and effect programming, which entirely eliminates evolution.

There isn't any God hypothesis since there is proof for God.

Since evolution is not known to exist, how can anyone say that God (Who has been proven to exist) programmed it? We can guess that evolution exists. Then we can further guess that God programmed it. But if we do this, then we would have to describe evolution anew, because the current descriptions of evolution don't fit something that has been programmed.

And, you are right. I am not that stupid. I'm not even stupid enough to ask how stupid you are?

Cool

No it doesn't. What you are basically saying is that god programmed everything to look like it's evolution but it's not just to deceive us? Or what is it? Lots of things are imperfect, we are, animals are, God definitely didn't do a great job but it's better to believe that God did it instead of looking at the empirical evidence (overwhelming evidence) proving that evolution is in fact real. Every science that has to do with evolution is wrong, millions of scientists, now and many years ago are all wrong, they are all lying because they have some sort of agenda against God. The reality is different, evolution exists and it's used in applications in real life that also work.

Creationism does not contribute to anything, show me something that we made based on creationism or God. Science works and you wouldn't be typing this retarded shit if science didnt.
legendary
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May 30, 2017, 10:48:35 AM

My then maybe is a perfectly fine conclusion from cause and effect showing how easily you can come up with conclusions using cause and effect, nowhere does cause and effect show that God was the first cause, it only suggests that there was a first cause, sure, how do you know what it was? You dont.

Limiting words such as those used to ''debunk'' the theory of evolution? What are those exactly, show me a specific example of what I wrote that was limiting to you and we will discuss it.

Probably the simplest limiting word is the word "if." IF this, that, and the other were true, then evolution might be true. "Might," another limiting word. You can go back and find all of them if you want. But you need to go slowly so yo don't miss them.

Using cause and effect in this thread is on-topic because it helps to show that evolution is a hoax. Using cause and effect to show God would probably be off topic. Does it tie in with evolution somehow? I mean, God isn't necessarily the only alternative to evolution, is He?

Cool

Except all empirical (evolution in bacteria) and physical evidence points to evolution.  All evidence confirms the same conclusion.

With God hypothesis, you can't even define what it is you want to prove.  Never mind proving that 'something' is responsible to the evolutionary changes we observe.

What is next? You'll say that God 'programmed' evolution in his ultimate wisdom, but forgot to update the 'holy' books?

C'mon, you cannot be that stupid.


Except that all the evidence shows that the standard understanding of evolution doesn't consider cause and effect programming, which entirely eliminates evolution.

There isn't any God hypothesis since there is proof for God.

Since evolution is not known to exist, how can anyone say that God (Who has been proven to exist) programmed it? We can guess that evolution exists. Then we can further guess that God programmed it. But if we do this, then we would have to describe evolution anew, because the current descriptions of evolution don't fit something that has been programmed.

And, you are right. I am not that stupid. I'm not even stupid enough to ask how stupid you are?

Cool

You are smart, just not smart enough to understand why you are wrong.

Religious brainwashing is clouding your reasoning.  You want to defend your belief system because you don't want to be wrong.
This behavior is no different from Flat Earther defending his 'proofs' of flat Earth, or a Muslim defending Islamism or Jihadism.

You cannot objectively look at your predicament because you are too emotionally involved.

Knowing that you could be wrong is a sign of intelligence.

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May 30, 2017, 10:35:57 AM

My then maybe is a perfectly fine conclusion from cause and effect showing how easily you can come up with conclusions using cause and effect, nowhere does cause and effect show that God was the first cause, it only suggests that there was a first cause, sure, how do you know what it was? You dont.

Limiting words such as those used to ''debunk'' the theory of evolution? What are those exactly, show me a specific example of what I wrote that was limiting to you and we will discuss it.

Probably the simplest limiting word is the word "if." IF this, that, and the other were true, then evolution might be true. "Might," another limiting word. You can go back and find all of them if you want. But you need to go slowly so yo don't miss them.

Using cause and effect in this thread is on-topic because it helps to show that evolution is a hoax. Using cause and effect to show God would probably be off topic. Does it tie in with evolution somehow? I mean, God isn't necessarily the only alternative to evolution, is He?

Cool

Except all empirical (evolution in bacteria) and physical evidence points to evolution.  All evidence confirms the same conclusion.

With God hypothesis, you can't even define what it is you want to prove.  Never mind proving that 'something' is responsible to the evolutionary changes we observe.

What is next? You'll say that God 'programmed' evolution in his ultimate wisdom, but forgot to update the 'holy' books?

C'mon, you cannot be that stupid.


Except that all the evidence shows that the standard understanding of evolution doesn't consider cause and effect programming, which entirely eliminates evolution.

There isn't any God hypothesis since there is proof for God.

Since evolution is not known to exist, how can anyone say that God (Who has been proven to exist) programmed it? We can guess that evolution exists. Then we can further guess that God programmed it. But if we do this, then we would have to describe evolution anew, because the current descriptions of evolution don't fit something that has been programmed.

And, you are right. I am not that stupid. I'm not even stupid enough to ask how stupid you are?

Cool
legendary
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May 30, 2017, 10:18:36 AM

My then maybe is a perfectly fine conclusion from cause and effect showing how easily you can come up with conclusions using cause and effect, nowhere does cause and effect show that God was the first cause, it only suggests that there was a first cause, sure, how do you know what it was? You dont.

Limiting words such as those used to ''debunk'' the theory of evolution? What are those exactly, show me a specific example of what I wrote that was limiting to you and we will discuss it.

Probably the simplest limiting word is the word "if." IF this, that, and the other were true, then evolution might be true. "Might," another limiting word. You can go back and find all of them if you want. But you need to go slowly so yo don't miss them.

Using cause and effect in this thread is on-topic because it helps to show that evolution is a hoax. Using cause and effect to show God would probably be off topic. Does it tie in with evolution somehow? I mean, God isn't necessarily the only alternative to evolution, is He?

Cool

Except all empirical (evolution in bacteria) and physical evidence points to evolution.  All evidence confirms the same conclusion.

With God hypothesis, you can't even define what it is you want to prove.  Never mind proving that 'something' is responsible for the evolutionary changes we observe.

What is next? You'll say that God 'programmed' evolution in his ultimate wisdom, but forgot to update the 'holy' books?

C'mon, you cannot be that stupid.
legendary
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May 30, 2017, 10:08:54 AM

My then maybe is a perfectly fine conclusion from cause and effect showing how easily you can come up with conclusions using cause and effect, nowhere does cause and effect show that God was the first cause, it only suggests that there was a first cause, sure, how do you know what it was? You dont.

Limiting words such as those used to ''debunk'' the theory of evolution? What are those exactly, show me a specific example of what I wrote that was limiting to you and we will discuss it.

Probably the simplest limiting word is the word "if." IF this, that, and the other were true, then evolution might be true. "Might," another limiting word. You can go back and find all of them if you want. But you need to go slowly so yo don't miss them.

Using cause and effect in this thread is on-topic because it helps to show that evolution is a hoax. Using cause and effect to show God would probably be off topic. Does it tie in with evolution somehow? I mean, God isn't necessarily the only alternative to evolution, is He?

Cool
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If even creationists are getting involved with Bitcoins, this is a good sign of the growing interest of crypto currencies. When even dumb people are using BTC, it means everyone can (and will) do it.
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May 30, 2017, 06:05:07 AM
Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

I don't think evolution is real. It's not in the bible. But on the other hand evolution is real on little things, culture and other little things just maybe not on what Darwin thinks.
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May 29, 2017, 04:40:30 PM
evolution is the change in the characteristics of a species over several generations and relies on the process of natural selection,That means monkeys are a species that can survive to this day

Because of the complexity involved in the change, if it is natural selection, it means that nature is intelligent enough to select the right thing. I mean, it is attributing free will to nature to suggest that nature is selecting at all! More than likely, there is a God controlling the change.

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