@popcorn dude, you're preaching to the choir. Evolution is obviously real (until some overwhelming evidence to the contrary appears, which doesn't seem likely).
I was just pointing out the flaws in BADecker's "two big points".
@criptix, yeah "Nature = God" is an interesting idea, "pantheism" is one form of what you're talking about I believe.
It certainly makes a lot more sense to me that "God" is for example, the four fundamental forces of the universe, than some sort of conscious, anthropomorphised man in the sky.
And you even made up your own god..So who or what is it..
And if you say you don't know then why a god?..
Are you replying to me? I think you might be confused. I agree that a "god" in the conventional sense did not create the Earth - The idea that a supernatural deity clicked its fingers and popped the world into existence is a highly flawed argument with zero evidence to support it.
I didn't say I believed in a god at all. I just meant that I can relate to a pantheist idea of god far more easily than, for example, the Abrahamic god.
Some of it comes down to semantics - what is the definition of a god? One could argue that the force of gravity has many of the attributes of a god. While it is not conscious, it is not fully understood and seems to defy quantum mechanics as we know it. It also, in a way, created Earth and all of the planets and stars, and consequentially all life as we know it.
After all, I don't think even BADecker could tell us exactly who or what his god is. Is the idea of a Christian god that different from the idea that god is the force of gravity?
faith and free will are two things that elevate us above animals. You chose not to. 