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Thanks Criptyx.

Simple explanation of a complex theory.

But people saying evolution is a hoax are not able to process any cognitive thought. Don't lose too much time with them.

Yes we evolutionists are very intelligent and better people than others. We don't need to even discuss about anything because we already won.
This level of argumentation is a sign of real intelligence, unlike looking for evidence.

Did you notice how argumentation of some of these of atheists resemble that of muslims? I hope insecurity about their "beliefs" wont lead to more concentration camps.

Not like it would be the first or second time.

By the way I didn't understand that either.
First: we're not insecure, we're tired of pointing at you something completely obvious and proven by thousands of different scientists and studies. That's not insecuirty that's simply despair and loss of faith in humanity.
Second: Wtf are you talking about when claiming concentration camps are the fruits of atheists beliefs?
Third: What's the link between Muslims and atheists?

Fundamentalists of the latter are likely to shove arguments down your throat. Those of the former would simply slit it.

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@popcorn dude, you're preaching to the choir. Evolution is obviously real (until some overwhelming evidence to the contrary appears, which doesn't seem likely).

I was just pointing out the flaws in BADecker's "two big points".

@criptix, yeah "Nature = God" is an interesting idea, "pantheism" is one form of what you're talking about I believe.

It certainly makes a lot more sense to me that "God" is for example, the four fundamental forces of the universe, than some sort of conscious, anthropomorphised man in the sky.

No i am saying that god never made this earth..
And you even made up your own god..So who or what is it..
And if you say you don't know then why a god?..

Are you replying to me? I think you might be confused. I agree that a "god" in the conventional sense did not create the Earth - The idea that a supernatural deity clicked its fingers and popped the world into existence is a highly flawed argument with zero evidence to support it.

I didn't say I believed in a god at all. I just meant that I can relate to a pantheist idea of god far more easily than, for example, the Abrahamic god.

Some of it comes down to semantics - what is the definition of a god? One could argue that the force of gravity has many of the attributes of a god. While it is not conscious, it is not fully understood and seems to defy quantum mechanics as we know it. It also, in a way, created Earth and all of the planets and stars, and consequentially all life as we know it.

After all, I don't think even BADecker could tell us exactly who or what his god is. Is the idea of a Christian god that different from the idea that god is the force of gravity?

So your god is falling ?..

i would think more of your god if we had anti gravity..

Doesn't take much to impress you..A falling god..

Haha OK so you're trolling, I get it. Your last line did make me chuckle actually Cheesy

No, firstly it's not my god. Secondly, the god that I speculated is not falling, it makes things fall. There's a difference.

Thirdly, if I was impressed by the idea that god was the force of gravity, then think of my reaction when I saw magnets defy the force of gravity!

If God = Gravity, then Magnets = Satan Grin

I've heard it said that opposites attract. This truth must be universal if you ask me.

No wonder truth seekers swarm this thread!

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Quote from: criptix on May 21, 2017, 11:48:18 AM

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@popcorn

Ugh... we are talking on a philosophical level about a god entity.
In this case i stated i could accept a god entity which equals our nature/universe/phisycal principles etc pp.

Im not atheist per se, because i have an open minded personality, it is more i guess in direction of an agnostic.
But overall this is not an important factor of my life it is just more of a though experiment.

No but why a god ..Why the need for something more powerful than your self?..

Why not it's just science simple science..?

Something went bang because of blah blah blah blah..

Why oh it went bang because of a god or some type of god..

This is just semantics now.
You could just call it nature if you dont like the word god.

Check out the topics about pantheism and spinozism.

Spinozism (also spelled Spinoza-ism or Spinozaism) is the monist philosophical system of Baruch Spinoza which defines "God" as a singular self-subsistent substance, with both matter and thought being attributes of such.

In a letter to Henry Oldenburg Spinoza wrote: "as to the view of certain people that I identify god with nature (taken as a kind of mass or corporeal matter), they are quite mistaken".[1] For Spinoza, our universe (cosmos) is a mode under two attributes of Thought and Extension. God has infinitely many other attributes which are not present in our world. According to German philosopher Karl Jaspers, when Spinoza wrote "Deus sive Natura" ("God or Nature") Spinoza meant God was Natura naturans not Natura naturata, that is, "a dynamic nature in action, growing and changing, not a passive or static thing

Did god tell him this OR did he make this up?..God has infinitely many other attributes which are not present in our world..

You see i find it strange why people need a god..
Is it the need to be loved no matter what we do?.
Are you scared to die?

thunder was the start of gods to tell stories to children to make them scared ..
Pack it in jack or the thunder god will get you ..
And thousands of years later we come to this point were people blow themselves up for make believe stories that all started from THUNDER..

And because of this thunder we have people not blaming the thunder but blaming something that they don't even know what it is Cheesy

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So how did we get here ..Well i don't know but something put us here ..NO SHIT Cheesy

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Even a reason why things explode..

before the Big bang ..
A black hole sucks all the matter in and the matter gets to heavy for the black hole .
Then because it's to heavy it explodes ripping a new part of the universe to release all it's matter..
Creating new galaxies and solar systems .

And because it's a collapsed black hole you can travel down them into a new part of the universe..
MAYBE ^^.. And that's how aliens travel vast distances MAYBE ..

No that's not what happened a man like being or an unknown thing went zap and then there was a bang.. Huh

Just please tell me what you think your gods look like describe it or him..

Nature so a tree is god?..
So dogs piss on god?..

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@popcorn dude, you're preaching to the choir. Evolution is obviously real (until some overwhelming evidence to the contrary appears, which doesn't seem likely).

I was just pointing out the flaws in BADecker's "two big points".

@criptix, yeah "Nature = God" is an interesting idea, "pantheism" is one form of what you're talking about I believe.

It certainly makes a lot more sense to me that "God" is for example, the four fundamental forces of the universe, than some sort of conscious, anthropomorphised man in the sky.

No i am saying that god never made this earth..
And you even made up your own god..So who or what is it..
And if you say you don't know then why a god?..

Are you replying to me? I think you might be confused. I agree that a "god" in the conventional sense did not create the Earth - The idea that a supernatural deity clicked its fingers and popped the world into existence is a highly flawed argument with zero evidence to support it.

I didn't say I believed in a god at all. I just meant that I can relate to a pantheist idea of god far more easily than, for example, the Abrahamic god.

Some of it comes down to semantics - what is the definition of a god? One could argue that the force of gravity has many of the attributes of a god. While it is not conscious, it is not fully understood and seems to defy quantum mechanics as we know it. It also, in a way, created Earth and all of the planets and stars, and consequentially all life as we know it.

After all, I don't think even BADecker could tell us exactly who or what his god is. Is the idea of a Christian god that different from the idea that god is the force of gravity?

So your god is falling ?..

i would think more of your god if we had anti gravity..

Doesn't take much to impress you..A falling god..

Haha OK so you're trolling, I get it. Your last line did make me chuckle actually Cheesy

No, firstly it's not my god. Secondly, the god that I speculated is not falling, it makes things fall. There's a difference.

Thirdly, if I was impressed by the idea that god was the force of gravity, then think of my reaction when I saw magnets defy the force of gravity!

If God = Gravity, then Magnets = Satan Grin

Its funny, that when "atheists" try to explain natural phenomena to each other, they quickly fall back to christian iconography Grin

And where is the rest? The antimatter? The source of life? The source of energy? The source of time? You might end up with full blown hinduistic pantheon of bigger and lesser gods like this. Good luck with your sophistic exercise, though. Mind should be busy.

I was using Christian iconography as a metaphorical joke. If I use theism as a metaphor, is that evidence for a god? I think not.

Do you have an explanation for the things you speak of? Antimatter, the source of life, the source of energy?

If you have an explanation, do you have evidence for it?

Atheists may not be able to explain everything, but they do not make the fallacy of formulating explanations for that which is unexplained. Especially when those explanations are based on flimsy evidence.

What do you think about evolution, Okur?

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