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Quote from: GazetaBitcoin on August 11, 2024, 07:48:15 AM

Quote from: GazetaBitcoin on August 04, 2024, 06:25:00 AM

a Pidgin translation of OP was made by Nheer: eXch - instant exchange BTC / LN / XMR / LTC / ETH / ERC20.

An Urdu translation was made recently by ThemePen and it can be found here: eXch - فوری تبادلہ BTC/LN/XMR/LTC/ETH/ERC20.
paid2 told me that he also translated this thread a while ago. His French translation can be found here: eXch - échangez instantanément BTC / LN / XMR / LTC / ETH / ERC20.

I would like to announce that a Turkish translation was just made by mela65: eXch - Hızlı Borsa BTC / LN / XMR / LTC / ETH / ERC20.
As a plus, Peanutswar also realized a Filipino translation for OP: eXch - mabilisang nag papalit ng BTC / LN / XMR / LTC / ETH / ERC20.

So in this moment there are 10 translations existent for eXch. I would like to thank to all translators for their efforts!

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Quote from: JollyGood on August 13, 2024, 02:54:08 AM

The website you reported does not open, it is showing an Internal Server Error therefore safe to conclude it no longer poses any form of threat.

About an hour ago, when I first saw your post, I checked that and I got the same error as you.
I just checked it again and unfortunately that clone is working now.

By the way, the issue with the certificate has been solved.

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Quote from: Lucius on August 13, 2024, 04:10:52 AM

As for a possible scam report, very few people will do something like that even if they become victims of a scam, some because they don't even know this forum exists, others because they feel embarrassed that something like that happened to them and would rather keep it to themselves than share with the public.

Now that you have mentioned them, I guess the biggest two obstacles to reporting would first be the awareness of this forum (and the scam accusation board) and secondly embarrassment. Having said that, in any case if just one victim came forward with a cloned website domain it would help to stop at least some others from becoming victims. I sincerely hope there were no victims in the months while the website was active.

Quote from: examplens on August 13, 2024, 04:56:34 AM

It is a very large-scale job and it is difficult to make a model that would work reliably, and it can easily be bypassed. In the end, hosting services do not need to deal with content control (except for illegal things like terrorism, drugs, weapons...) on their servers.

I agree, it would be very difficult for hosting providers to monitor every aspect of activity on their servers therefore they can be unaware of clone/scam websites but the real negligence would be if they refused to take action (or delayed taking action) after scams running on their servers were reported to them.

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Quote from: Lucius on August 13, 2024, 04:10:52 AM

Considering how easy it is to clone any web site, it is not surprising that every service that can generate profit has its own clones, and no matter how many are detected, there are always at least two undetected for every detected one.

The design of almost any site can be obtained very easily, It is enough just to ask ChatGPT to print the .css code from a specific page.

Quote from: Lucius on August 13, 2024, 04:10:52 AM

The biggest problem is with hosting providers who simply don't care about such things (and they should).

It is a very large-scale job and it is difficult to make a model that would work reliably, and it can easily be bypassed. In the end, hosting services do not need to deal with content control (except for illegal things like terrorism, drugs, weapons...) on their servers.

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Quote from: JollyGood on August 13, 2024, 02:54:08 AM

It is unfortuante the clone website could have been operating for up to three months but thankfully it seems nobody knew about otherwise we would probably have had some report about it in the scam accusation board by now.
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Considering how easy it is to clone any web site, it is not surprising that every service that can generate profit has its own clones, and no matter how many are detected, there are always at least two undetected for every detected one. The biggest problem is with hosting providers who simply don't care about such things (and they should).

As for a possible scam report, very few people will do something like that even if they become victims of a scam, some because they don't even know this forum exists, others because they feel embarrassed that something like that happened to them and would rather keep it to themselves than share with the public.

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It is unfortuante the clone website could have been operating for up to three months but thankfully it seems nobody knew about otherwise we would probably have had some report about it in the scam accusation board by now. The website you reported does not open, it is showing an Internal Server Error therefore safe to conclude it no longer poses any form of threat.

Quote from: hosseinimr93 on August 11, 2024, 06:07:54 PM

Here is another clone of eXch that should be reported.

Code:

ecxh.cx

According to who.is, this clone has been registered more than 3 months ago and unfortunately it's still up now.

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Quote from: d5000 on August 12, 2024, 10:58:43 PM

The certificate of the clearnet site (exch.cx including two other sites: exch.pw and exch.bz) seems to have expired a couple of hours ago, at least my browser is showing this.

Yes, it looks like the certificate has expired. It appears that the automatic renewal system was not turned on or failed, meaning the renewal was not carried out.

I believe that within a few hours, I will have this issue resolved.

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Quote from: d5000 on August 12, 2024, 10:58:43 PM

The certificate of the clearnet site seems to have expired a couple of hours ago, at least my browser is showing this.

A reputable certificate search website confirms it: https://crt.sh/?q=e97b33d2bb1710d4cdc2158ac3890e50070ccb0d9cfd3d0e59d168c6979baa93

I've sent a PM to "eXch Support" to raise this issue in case he prioritizes PMs than posts.

Quote from: eXch Support on July 31, 2024, 04:22:23 PM

PMs are checked at least twice a day in all cases.

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The certificate of the clearnet site (exch.cx including two other sites: exch.pw and exch.bz) seems to have expired a couple of hours ago, at least my browser is showing this.

Edit: Solved on my side (Aug 13 somewhen during the morning).

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Quote from: SFR10 on August 11, 2024, 11:35:40 AM

Just spotted another phishing website that managed to stay under the radar for the past couple of weeks ^{[please take a minute guys to also report it]}:
^{- BTW, the first few characters of its onion link are exactly the same as the original one!}

Code:

exch.exchange

~snip~

Quote from: hosseinimr93 on August 11, 2024, 06:07:54 PM

Here is another clone of eXch that should be reported.

Code:

ecxh.cx

~snip~

I have reported both to Google Safebrowsing (phishing), so I hope that it will help potential users to be warned about the deceptive site before they even visit it. In any case, I hope that they will be offline or blocked in any other way as soon as possible.

Code:

https://safebrowsing.google.com/safebrowsing/report_phish/?hl=en

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Here is another clone of eXch that should be reported.

Code:

ecxh.cx

According to who.is, this clone has been registered more than 3 months ago and unfortunately it's still up now.

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One thing to say about the scammers is they clearly find the eXch website appealing (probably because of their reputation) and that is why they keep cloning it. They seem to be making one after another akin to a production line. I think we will probably see more of these clone with various similar domains appearing now and again especially if it is one group that is targetting them.

Quote from: SFR10 on August 11, 2024, 11:35:40 AM

Just spotted another phishing website that managed to stay under the radar for the past couple of weeks ^{[please take a minute guys to also report it]}:
^{- BTW, the first few characters of its onion link are exactly the same as the original one!}

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At first I thought the new copycat doesn't work or won't load but after a painfully long delay it finally pops up. Reported to provided registrar abuse email...

The more report, the better!

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Just spotted another phishing website that managed to stay under the radar for the past couple of weeks ^{[please take a minute guys to also report it]}:
^{- BTW, the first few characters of its onion link are exactly the same as the original one!}

Code:

exch.exchange

Quote from: https://www.namecheap.com/domains/whois/result?domain=exch.exchange

Creation Date: 2024-07-28
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4165350123

In addition to the above phishing website, I think we should also keep tabs on the following two:

Code:

exch.email
exch.contact

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Though it might be somewhat off-topic, it was discussed in the forum several years ago about coinsbit/p2pb2b/extrates/whitebit.

There were scam allegations against them and they have been cited as being connected therefore anybody dealing with any business that has a direct or indirect relation with any of them is advised to avoid them otherwise a loss of funds is a possibility.

Quote from: eXch on August 03, 2024, 06:17:48 PM

Warning to WhiteBit and Bestchange users who also use eXch:

Ukrainian service AMLBot and exchange WhiteBIT (registered in Lithuania with ukrainian and ex-russian citizen shareholders) have decided to start a malicious campaign against eXch.

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Quote from: GazetaBitcoin on August 04, 2024, 06:25:00 AM

At same time, I also want to announce that a Pidgin translation of OP was made by Nheer: eXch - instant exchange BTC / LN / XMR / LTC / ETH / ERC20.

I have more good news for eXch, as there are 2 more translations available for this topic.

An Urdu translation was made recently by ThemePen and it can be found here: eXch - فوری تبادلہ BTC/LN/XMR/LTC/ETH/ERC20.
Additionally, paid2 told me that he also translated this thread a while ago. His French translation can be found here: eXch - échangez instantanément BTC / LN / XMR / LTC / ETH / ERC20.

eXch, would you like to add these 3 translations to OP, please?

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Quote from: bitmover on August 04, 2024, 06:56:21 AM

I have recently send LTC from exch.cx to my wallet then directly to a local brazilian exchange foxbit. No problems!

I hope things continue to be like this. Good luck exch!

It works just fine I've tested exchanging BTC into USDC directly from exch and then to our local exchange but this time I tried the dynamic rate it seems it's a bit longer to process because it took more than 1 hour or maybe because of the fee that I set 3sat/vb then sudden network spikes. I don't have any problem I still receive it without any problem.

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Quote from: LoyceV on August 07, 2024, 04:41:10 AM

Quote from: NotATether on August 07, 2024, 03:48:02 AM

Thing is, this is less about what we think about taint, and more about what the exchanges we are using think about it.

Just like banks, I believe they couldn't care less. All they care about is being compliant, so they can say "they tried their best". It doesn't really matter if the result is based on arbitrary criteria, and it doesn't matter that different exchanges use different criteria.

Banks don't care about AML, but they do about regulators fining and punishing them. So they are overzealous in reporting AML suspicious activities of their customers, sending loads of reports to the regulators.
No one will ever complain about a suspicious activity report leading to nothing, while dire consequences are for the banks that do not signal a real illegal activity. When in doubt, signal.
My experience with other regulated agents, like the one operating ATM in Europe, is that they tend to respect the bare minimum information required by regulators, but effectively reporting more than necessary in terms of transactions.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on August 07, 2024, 03:21:24 AM

From what I understood, it's not affiliated with bestchange but rather the exchanges listed there. Since AFAIK, Bestchange doesn't hold any funds or accept any transactions, it just refers users to other exchanges.

I think it is.
They partnered with something called CrystalBlockchain like they publicly confirmed, and few months ago they started offering their own front end paid service for this stupid AML checks.
I don't care who created this thing in the first place, maybe it was some government agency as a way to attack bitcoin, but I was always against it.

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Quote from: NotATether on August 07, 2024, 03:48:02 AM

Thing is, this is less about what we think about taint, and more about what the exchanges we are using think about it.

Just like banks, I believe they couldn't care less. All they care about is being compliant, so they can say "they tried their best". It doesn't really matter if the result is based on arbitrary criteria, and it doesn't matter that different exchanges use different criteria.

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