Exchange accidentally sent 512 bitcoins after coding error - page 2.

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Quote from: hmongotaku on October 11, 2011, 01:25:29 PM

How do you fail on cut & paste addresses? lol.

that's easy in opera. double-click an address and it comes up with this stupid menu which somehow blocks the ctrl-c keyboard command. (potentially leaving a previously-copied address in the clipboard instead).

joeyjoe

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i found out a way i could of emptyed intersango's entire bitcoin balance, told them about it, and never even got a thanks! ill be keeping the 90btc i took though.

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How do you fail on cut & paste addresses? lol.

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Quote from: Gabi on October 11, 2011, 10:05:53 AM

People using a non reversable currency and then asking their bitcoins back->so much fail.

If you want chargebacks, go back to fiat monet Cheesy

They did, that's why bitcoin is slowly declining to a footnote in the history books. Grin

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If you want to walk on water, get out of the boat

People using a non reversable currency and then asking their bitcoins back->so much fail.

If you want chargebacks, go back to fiat monet Cheesy

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This is intersango isnt it?

Their site is full of flaws. i guess thats what they get with editing the live site

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Glad I didn't know about bitcoin prior to the fiascos I am reading about.

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Quote from: Raoul Duke on September 12, 2011, 01:27:55 PM

Quote from: hightax on September 12, 2011, 01:08:23 PM

Apparently not thoroughly enough. Test environments are supposed to MATCH the production environment. But of course, secure coding doesn't apply to Bitcoins.

What does Bitcoin have to do with an exchange that is a completely different project?
You should word your trolls a little better or STFU.
Or in alternative tell me where in Bitcoin is that insecure coding... I suspect you will not find it, hell, even Dan Kaminsky admited that the coding is f'ugly but very secure and does what it's supposed to do(and I believe he really tried hard to find flaws in it).

Way to miss the context, genius. You're posting in a thread about how an exchange's developer wrote flawed code that gave away free bitcoins to people. You're complaining about my post where I said that "if he didn't want to give the coins away, he shouldn't have programmed his exchange to give away free coins." I don't give a fuck if the bitcoin protocol is flawless, it's clear as day that everyone else associated with bitcoins is flawed and prime for ridicule.

*edit* I have yet to see a real success story of a project that's associated with bitcoins. The track record's pretty abysmal and filled with great examples of people who really shouldn't be handling any serious amount of money.

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Quote from: hightax on September 12, 2011, 01:08:23 PM

Apparently not thoroughly enough. Test environments are supposed to MATCH the production environment. But of course, secure coding doesn't apply to Bitcoins.

What does Bitcoin have to do with an exchange that is a completely different project?
You should word your trolls a little better or STFU.
Or in alternative tell me where in Bitcoin is that insecure coding... I suspect you will not find it, hell, even Dan Kaminsky admited that the coding is f'ugly but very secure and does what it's supposed to do(and I believe he really tried hard to find flaws in it).

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Quote from: mizerydearia on September 12, 2011, 10:11:43 AM

Quote from: hightax on September 09, 2011, 01:48:25 PM

If Intersango didn't want to give BenDavis 511 bitcoins, they would write code that doesn't give it away so freely.

Quote from: phantomcircuit on September 02, 2011, 10:21:25 AM

This code was thoroughly tested using testnet.
The issue was with the server configuration, the database user did not have the proper permissions and the code failed in an unexpected way.
I have now changed to relevant code such that any failure of any kind will stop the script cold.

Apparently not thoroughly enough. Test environments are supposed to MATCH the production environment. But of course, secure coding doesn't apply to Bitcoins.

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Quote from: hightax on September 09, 2011, 01:48:25 PM

If Intersango didn't want to give BenDavis 511 bitcoins, they would write code that doesn't give it away so freely.

Quote from: phantomcircuit on September 02, 2011, 10:21:25 AM

This code was thoroughly tested using testnet.
The issue was with the server configuration, the database user did not have the proper permissions and the code failed in an unexpected way.
I have now changed to relevant code such that any failure of any kind will stop the script cold.

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Ultimately, assuming that everything is as it seems, bendavis should give the coins back. I know that no authority is going to make him do that however if the case were to go into a British court (only because that is the only country that I have knowledge of) then it would be pretty clear that bendavis should give the money back, possibly with a small amount of compensation to bendavis from the exchange for having wasted his time with their mistake.

Seriously though, how could anyone honestly think that just because someone makes a mistake that it gives you the right to keep money, that you haven't done anything to receive, as a result.

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If I was writing exchange software I should sure as hell be following test driven development and also implementing runtime assertions with preconditions and postconditions to ensure all operations were checked before execution.

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Quote from: Blackout on September 08, 2011, 09:26:23 PM

In Monopoly of the future, will there be a:

"Bitcoin error in your favor, collect $4000 dollars"

because of this?

If phantomcircuit was worthy of keeping his customers' bitcoins, they would write code that doesn't give it away freely.

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Quote from: molecular on September 09, 2011, 02:58:36 AM

"Exchange Coding Error - collect 2^9 - 1 BTC"

other cards include:

Grid Blackout - your mining farm is offline for an hour - pay 10 BTC per mining farm
Bank Fraud - pay 51% of your cash
HELLO MY DEAR FRIEND, PLEASE HELP, I NEED TO GET RID OF USD 10,000,000
You bought a product using Bitocin - roll dice: odd number: you receive goods, even number: you've been frauded, pay 5 BTC
Rollback - each players last action is annulled

Quote from: deepceleron on September 09, 2011, 07:37:22 AM

From sale of stock you get $50 => From sale of socks you get 50 BTC.

Repost this to https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-monopoly-42459 and continue discussion there ^_^

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Quote from: molecular on September 09, 2011, 02:58:36 AM

Quote from: mizerydearia on September 09, 2011, 12:14:38 AM

Quote from: Blackout on September 08, 2011, 09:26:23 PM

In Monopoly of the future, will there be a:

"Bitcoin error in your favor, collect $4000 dollars"

because of this?

It seems to be more appropriate for such a card to be specified in terms of bitcoins than any region-specific or controlled currency. However, nice idea for bitcoin monopoly. Perhaps someone (or several someones) can take initiative to contact Hasbro and work with them to prepare and establish a 'bitcoin monopoly' board game. Otherwise perhaps a Chinese monopory rook-arike?

"Exchange Coding Error - collect 2^9 - 1 BTC"

other cards include:

Grid Blackout - your mining farm is offline for an hour - pay 10 BTC per mining farm
Bank Fraud - pay 51% of your cash
HELLO MY DEAR FRIEND, PLEASE HELP, I NEED TO GET RID OF USD 10,000,000
You bought a product using Bitocin - roll dice: odd number: you receive goods, even number: you've been frauded, pay 5 BTC
Rollback - each players last action is annulled

From sale of stock you get $50 => From sale of socks you get 50 BTC.

molecular

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Quote from: mizerydearia on September 09, 2011, 12:14:38 AM

Quote from: Blackout on September 08, 2011, 09:26:23 PM

In Monopoly of the future, will there be a:

"Bitcoin error in your favor, collect $4000 dollars"

because of this?

It seems to be more appropriate for such a card to be specified in terms of bitcoins than any region-specific or controlled currency. However, nice idea for bitcoin monopoly. Perhaps someone (or several someones) can take initiative to contact Hasbro and work with them to prepare and establish a 'bitcoin monopoly' board game. Otherwise perhaps a Chinese monopory rook-arike?

"Exchange Coding Error - collect 2^9 - 1 BTC"

other cards include:

Grid Blackout - your mining farm is offline for an hour - pay 10 BTC per mining farm
Bank Fraud - pay 51% of your cash
HELLO MY DEAR FRIEND, PLEASE HELP, I NEED TO GET RID OF USD 10,000,000
You bought a product using Bitocin - roll dice: odd number: you receive goods, even number: you've been frauded, pay 5 BTC
Rollback - each players last action is annulled

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Quote from: Blackout on September 08, 2011, 09:26:23 PM

In Monopoly of the future, will there be a:

"Bitcoin error in your favor, collect $4000 dollars"

because of this?

It seems to be more appropriate for such a card to be specified in terms of bitcoins than any region-specific or controlled currency. However, nice idea for bitcoin monopoly. Perhaps someone (or several someones) can take initiative to contact Hasbro and work with them to prepare and establish a 'bitcoin monopoly' board game. Otherwise perhaps a Chinese monopory rook-arike?

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Quote from: film2240 on September 07, 2011, 03:46:12 PM

Talk about a very profitable error to the (unintended) recipient :-)

If I felt sorry for the guy,I'd give the money back.If I think the guy's an idiot (like has a history of scamming/losing peoples money with poor quality code),then I'll keep it and he'll learn his lesson (sorry if that sounds unfair,but that's real life.People who do nothing wrong should definatly get the money back if it's a coding error though.I'll reserve the attitude for the scammers who deserve it)

Bankers profit all the time with bank errors,why shouldn't we? It's their fault we're in this mess.

If you don't like my opinion,then don't flame me,just say why not.

In Monopoly of the future, will there be a:

"Bitcoin error in your favor, collect $4000 dollars"

because of this?

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Quote from: bitlane on September 07, 2011, 01:00:56 AM

This COMPLETE BS.....

The Forum Mods/Admins could have EASILLY stepped in and cleared up a few things beore this got so out of hand.

Do you have any idea how many New users signed up, just to find their way into this thread because of where it was posted originally ?
Moving the thread could have helped immensly and cut down on the OBVIOUS double and most likely TRIPLE accounts now possessed by some, who might have not wanted to join into the conversation with already established usernames/accounts.

Sometimes people just like to be given the opportunity to prove that they are perhaps smarter than the next guy and the Legal Debate which has taken place is also nothing more than those assholes giving themselves a pat on the back for a quote well posted.....

Now that there is nothing more, no more legal jargon to post.....PEOPLE COME UP WITH THE SINGULAR ENTITY SCAM POSSIBILITY ?
Tinfoil hat time......

Are you guys serious ?

It's been confirmed that ONE PARTY HAS MADE A COMPLAINT. The SECOND PARTY HAS ADMITTED TO HAVING THE BTC AND NOT WILLING TO GIVE THEM BACK.

Is this the extent that people are willing to go to make things right ? Nothing but legal quotes in a forum thread ?

This just blows my mind.

May all of you who posted in favor of the receiver, suffer the same or similar fate.

I wouldn't put bitcoins on a public exchange, I also wouldn't write the software for an exchange unless I knew what I was doing.

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