Experimenting with Jalapeno firmware... - page 23.

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Quote from: Lucko on June 26, 2013, 06:41:14 PM

Hm... I just realised something. Look at board pictures publish hire. And look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw7kVfJ5X5Y

Do you see a difference? Anyone has a single? I think that this chip that is missing here is for a 50gh single to connect 2 boards. If you look at the plans you will see chain out chain in connected to that... And I really think that this is a longboard. 2 normal boards connected... If anyone has a idea how to get program off that chip we can make a longboard....

Why would you bother?

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Hm... I just realised something. Look at board pictures publish hire. And look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw7kVfJ5X5Y

Do you see a difference? Anyone has a single? I think that this chip that is missing here is for a 50gh single to connect 2 boards. If you look at the plans you will see chain out chain in connected to that... And I really think that this is a longboard. 2 normal boards connected... If anyone has a idea how to get program off that chip we can make a longboard....

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And they have free delivery for orders over $45.

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Quote from: kano on June 26, 2013, 10:53:07 AM

Oh ... I was hoping that would be a good test before actually flashing it ... though I've not got that far yet ...

I have (which I finally found today) an Xilinx Platform Cable USB with 4 cables and an adapter board to match the 3 extra cables provided by ngzhang - it was called the icarus dev kit back when I bought it last year - but I've never used it.

I'm in the process of slowly downloading the free version of the Xilinx ISE - anyone know in advance if that will work?

Edit: OK after reading up much more about all this ... it seems the answer is probably no.
It also seems that the AVR32 chips are rarely supported by the random no-name Amtel JTAG programmers you can find on ebay.
Fortunately, google found me a shop 35km away that has 44 in stock

$63 ... OK time to go visit them tomorrow.

Aside: I found the pictures provided by others a little hard to read clearly ... so I took one of my Jala mining

(click if you want it 4x that size)

Anyone is Aus wanting to know where they can find an AVR Dragon - this is the place I'll be visiting tomorrow ... after I call them and verify it is the right device.
http://au.element14.com/atmel/atavrdragon/in-system-debugger-programmer-avr/dp/145508801

Element14 are huge, they are the one of the international Raspberry Pi distributor networks, so you should be able to find them all over the planet, they are part of the Farnell group of electronic distributors http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_Farnell

The Premier Farnell group trades globally under the following company names:

Farnell in the UK and Europe
element14 in Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, India, Malaysia, China and Singapore
Newark Electronics in the US, Canada and Mexico
MCM Electronics in the US
Farnell-Newark in Brazil
Combined Precision Components (CPC) in the UK
Akron Brass, North America
TPC Wire and Cable, North America

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Quote from: vapourminer on June 26, 2013, 06:43:46 AM

Quote from: cp1 on June 17, 2013, 11:23:57 PM

Was the copy protect bit set? Could you download the firmware to save it? (I assume AVRs have that just like PICs)

the security bit was set. 1st thing I tried was to read the original 5 ghs 1.0.0 firmware out. nope.

the only way to clear the security bit and program it is to erase the whole chip. so, unless bfl releases a 1.0.0 *.hex file or the original 1.0.0 source, flashing these things is a one way ticket.

Oh ... I was hoping that would be a good test before actually flashing it ... though I've not got that far yet ...

I have (which I finally found today) an Xilinx Platform Cable USB with 4 cables and an adapter board to match the 3 extra cables provided by ngzhang - it was called the icarus dev kit back when I bought it last year - but I've never used it.

I'm in the process of slowly downloading the free version of the Xilinx ISE - anyone know in advance if that will work?

Edit: OK after reading up much more about all this ... it seems the answer is probably no.
It also seems that the AVR32 chips are rarely supported by the random no-name Amtel JTAG programmers you can find on ebay.
Fortunately, google found me a shop 35km away that has 44 in stock

$63 ... OK time to go visit them tomorrow.

Aside: I found the pictures provided by others a little hard to read clearly ... so I took one of my Jala mining

(click if you want it 4x that size)

Anyone is Aus wanting to know where they can find an AVR Dragon - this is the place I'll be visiting tomorrow ... after I call them and verify it is the right device.
http://au.element14.com/atmel/atavrdragon/in-system-debugger-programmer-avr/dp/145508801

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I wonder if I can bend the pins out, tired of removing the heatsink

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very interesting and hoping to see guide soon, hopefully with ebay purchase links

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: erk on June 26, 2013, 06:50:36 AM

It's actually (102/16,241)*100= 0.628% errors, one of the cgmnier devs suggested that 1% HW errors are ok for that kind of ASIC setup.

whoops, thanks for that. forgot my basic math

but its difficulty 4 (4 shares average by the asic for every 1 submitted), and hardware errors are 1 to 1. so divide by 4 = 0.157% error rate.

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Quote from: vapourminer on June 26, 2013, 06:21:20 AM

Quote from: erk on June 26, 2013, 03:59:08 AM

Quote from: vapourminer on June 26, 2013, 03:55:21 AM

after 7 hours its average is 8285.56 ghs, 81 hardware errors.

That's not too bad for HW errors, out of interest sake, have you tried reducing the speed slightly to see if the error rate changes substantially? Thinking that you might be on the threshold.

reduce speed?? NEVER!! heh

9.5 hours, 16241 accepted @ difficultly 4, 102 hardware errors = 0.0016 % errors. thats OK in my book as others with stock jallys have had way more that that.

It's actually (102/16,241)*100= 0.628% errors, one of the cgmnier devs suggested that 1% HW errors are ok for that kind of ASIC setup.

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: cp1 on June 17, 2013, 11:23:57 PM

Was the copy protect bit set? Could you download the firmware to save it? (I assume AVRs have that just like PICs)

the security bit was set. 1st thing I tried was to read the original 5 ghs 1.0.0 firmware out. nope.

the only way to clear the security bit and program it is to erase the whole chip. so, unless bfl releases a 1.0.0 *.hex file or the original 1.0.0 source, flashing these things is a one way ticket.

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Quote from: dogie on June 17, 2013, 10:36:15 PM

Why do people post "watching" rather than pressing the watch button and watching? Ah yes, to increase post count.

.. why kids giving the answer to their own question right away Huh

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: erk on June 26, 2013, 03:59:08 AM

Quote from: vapourminer on June 26, 2013, 03:55:21 AM

after 7 hours its average is 8285.56 ghs, 81 hardware errors.

That's not too bad for HW errors, out of interest sake, have you tried reducing the speed slightly to see if the error rate changes substantially? Thinking that you might be on the threshold.

reduce speed?? NEVER!! heh

9.5 hours, 16241 accepted @ difficultly 4, 102 hardware errors = 0.0016 % errors. thats OK in my book as others with stock jallys have had way more that that.

there the stats output for the interested:

Code:

DEVICE: BitFORCE SC0x0aFIRMWARE: 1.2.50x0aIAR Executed: NO0x0aCHIP PARALLELIZATION: YES @ 20x0aQUEUE DEPTH:400x0aPROCESSOR 3: 15 engines @ 267 MHz -- MAP: FFFE0x0aPROCESSOR 7: 15 engines @ 281 MHz -- MAP: FFFE0x0aTHEORETICAL MAX: 8220 MH/s0x0aENGINES: 300x0aFREQUENCY: 274 MHz0x0aXLINK MODE: MASTER0x0aCRITICAL TEMPERATURE: 00x0aXLINK PRESENT: YES0x0aDEVICES IN CHAIN: 10x0aCHAIN PRESENCE MASK: 000000010x0aOK0x0a0x00

both chips 15 engines, one @ 281, one @ 267

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

yes, Ill have a howto in a day or two.

Im comfortable with building and modifying electronics and computers but never with stuff like this.

its easy enough but I did have a couple "uh oh" moments. Cheesy

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Any way we could get a step by step procedure (with pictures) to overclock these guys? I know computer hardware, but not at this level and I would rather not brick my Jalapenos in the process. Thanks for the effort!

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Quote from: vapourminer on June 26, 2013, 03:55:21 AM

Quote from: macromode on June 26, 2013, 03:15:08 AM

I've been reading through this thread and I think vapourminer mentioned that there's no cable included with purchase of the Atmel Dragon. He mentioned cutting down a 40 pin IDE cable but I don't even have such a common thing lying around.

nope no cable included. I did use a 40 conductor IDE cable cut down to 10 (2x5).

the cable you linked to should be fine. any 2x5 cable with 0.1 inch pin spacing will work.

after 7 hours its average is 8285.56 ghs, 81 hardware errors.

That's not too bad for HW errors, out of interest sake, have you tried reducing the speed slightly to see if the error rate changes substantially? Thinking that you might be on the threshold.

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Quote from: vapourminer on June 26, 2013, 03:55:21 AM

Quote from: macromode on June 26, 2013, 03:15:08 AM

I've been reading through this thread and I think vapourminer mentioned that there's no cable included with purchase of the Atmel Dragon. He mentioned cutting down a 40 pin IDE cable but I don't even have such a common thing lying around.

nope no cable included. I did use a 40 conductor IDE cable cut down to 10 (2x5).

the cable you linked to should be fine. any 2x5 cable with 0.1 inch pin spacing will work.

after 7 hours its average is 8285.56 ghs, 81 hardware errors.

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: macromode on June 26, 2013, 03:15:08 AM

I've been reading through this thread and I think vapourminer mentioned that there's no cable included with purchase of the Atmel Dragon. He mentioned cutting down a 40 pin IDE cable but I don't even have such a common thing lying around.

nope no cable included. I did use a 40 conductor IDE cable cut down to 10 (2x5).

the cable you linked to should be fine. any 2x5 cable with 0.1 inch pin spacing will work.

after 7 hours its average is 8285.56 ghs, 81 hardware errors.

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I've been reading through this thread and I think vapourminer mentioned that there's no cable included with purchase of the Atmel Dragon. He mentioned cutting down a 40 pin IDE cable but I don't even have such a common thing lying around.

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