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I don't know if that was a great sign for Ferrari and because Max Verstappen is new to the Las Vegas track he is having so many mistakes and even though he has said that the track was incredible he did criticize it many times like saying how bad it the Las Vegas for sure and how he was having mistakes on the Practice and the Qualifying he still manages to get the race win just because Leclerc did have some trouble in the pit,


We spoke about it before. Max is just a crybaby. He loves Monaco, he doesn't like Vegas. You can't pick which icing not to eat on your cake rught?

Anyway, Abu Dhabi is heating up. I cannot think of complaints about this track or weather. Desert is built for racing right?
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I don't know why but this heat is getting to me. Ferrari finally showing some improvements, too late but good sign for next season.

Finally the table updated and somehow I managed to stay in 4th place, but equal on points with bullrunbro in 3rd place. One more big race everybody and from the neon and rainy weather of Las Vegas we go to sandy dusty Abu Dhabi for the final showdown! Good luck everyone!

I don't know if that was a great sign for Ferrari and because Max Verstappen is new to the Las Vegas track he is having so many mistakes and even though he has said that the track was incredible he did criticize it many times like saying how bad it the Las Vegas for sure and how he was having mistakes on the Practice and the Qualifying he still manages to get the race win just because Leclerc did have some trouble in the pit,


What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas as the saying goes.
And Perez wishes those late overtakes stays there and doesn't follow him in the next race in Abu Dhabi.
Ferrari are starting to warm up and what do you know, it's the final race of the season this weekend.


For sure what happens in Vegas needs to stay in Vegas  because Max Verstappen doesn't really care about the music and the performance of another artist at the start of the race, and all drivers just stand like a clown waving there are many that Max Verstappen didn't like that needs to stay in Vegas for sure, and don't forget the midnight cold that the race will start, for sure the F1 management on Vegas would change the time more early, next GP,

If things continued the way they were in the first part of the race then Leclerc could have really won the race by a decent gap as well. However those safety cars weren't very good signs for him and the latest one put him in a more difficult spot. Verstappen and Perez gained a lot of pace after that one. Maybe Ferrari could also have got him into pit though as his tyres were 5 laps older than them.

When it comes to Ferrari pit crew they were a disappointment during Leclerc's pit as it took them one second longer to mount one of the tyres. Even milliseconds is very valuable in this sport. But I really admired the way Leclerc continued fighting despite being overtaken by Perez.  Smiley  He really deserved the 2nd position after all that effort.

For sure they need to change strategy and the pit crew for sure or if not change, maybe train their pit crew and in whatever kind of problem the Ferrari needs to change I think they need to change it asap for sure there are an inch in getting that win for Charles Leclerc, but still failed miserably

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If things continued the way they were in the first part of the race then Leclerc could have really won the race by a decent gap as well. However those safety cars weren't very good signs for him and the latest one put him in a more difficult spot. Verstappen and Perez gained a lot of pace after that one. Maybe Ferrari could also have got him into pit though as his tyres were 5 laps older than them.

When it comes to Ferrari pit crew they were a disappointment during Leclerc's pit as it took them one second longer to mount one of the tyres. Even milliseconds is very valuable in this sport. But I really admired the way Leclerc continued fighting despite being overtaken by Perez.  Smiley  He really deserved the 2nd position after all that effort.
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I really wasnt expecting this good race, i think it gonna be a bad race, but ended up being one of the best race of the season, what do you think?.

Very bad luck for some drivers, Leclerc and Hamilton for example, about Mercedes they really have a good pace, but the crashes and problems destroy their race.

About Verstappen, i have to say the FIA is very soft against him, the first turn incident was his pure fault as always he push Leclerc off the track, and they give 5 seconds very late, when the correct one was give the position back.
Yeah, it was one of the best races this season. I also was sceptical about Las Vegas, but seems that prejudice isn't good thing. That Leclerc overtake against Perez cherry on top. Interesting how it would ended if Vertappen would helped Perez to defend. But as we saw again, it's not worth to expect such things from Max as he isn't team player.
Wouldn't say that FIA is soft against Max, it's more about how rules are made. Teams with faster cars can afford getting such penalties because for them isn't difficult to gain 5 second advantage and avoid being penalised. If they would impose let's say 30 seconds penalty, similar duration like stop & go penalty, then we would see different image I think.
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas as the saying goes.
And Perez wishes those late overtakes stays there and doesn't follow him in the next race in Abu Dhabi.
Ferrari are starting to warm up and what do you know, it's the final race of the season this weekend.

I really wasnt expecting this good race, i think it gonna be a bad race, but ended up being one of the best race of the season, what do you think?.

Very bad luck for some drivers, Leclerc and Hamilton for example, about Mercedes they really have a good pace, but the crashes and problems destroy their race.

About Verstappen, i have to say the FIA is very soft against him, the first turn incident was his pure fault as always he push Leclerc off the track, and they give 5 seconds very late, when the correct one was give the position back.
It was the best race of the year, based on the battle for the lead. Max didn't look faster than leclerc at the start, he was passed on the track, and after the pits, russell tried to get on him and damaged his car. Checo, meanwhile, with the perfect timing of the safety car, suddenly moved up to second place on zero tyres, passing leclerc. If asked at that moment, most of us would have said that checo would go from here with a gap and max would finish somewhere in the top ten. But checo lost his place to leclerc first, max took off after that, passed both perez and leclerc at his own pace, then went on to open the gap. It was surprisingly a good race to watch.
There were alot of bullying to Verstappen in this race and this is what every team should of done from the beginning of the season until now. Then it would of been a more competitive one and not a complete blow out on the points accumulated by one driver. Because that to look at is quite one sided by any standpoint.
Think I seen Max get hit by every top 5 driver in the course of the race. Right from the beginning with Leclerc at the first turn which drive them both off the track up unto the final lap.
Max wearing a mocked up driver suit of Elvis looked very cheesy but having 524 points on the season he doesn't care.
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I don't know why but this heat is getting to me. Ferrari finally showing some improvements, too late but good sign for next season.

Finally the table updated and somehow I managed to stay in 4th place, but equal on points with bullrunbro in 3rd place. One more big race everybody and from the neon and rainy weather of Las Vegas we go to sandy dusty Abu Dhabi for the final showdown! Good luck everyone!
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All over in the end and wow so few DNFs I was actually expecting way more supposedly with the wet tracks and risks of accidents nothing really surprising. Leclerc pole but Max wins, maybe the thing to see is Oscar Piastri getting the fastest lap, I really didn't see that coming.

3 seconds podium, rest 18 seconds behind, what domination from first 3!!

Many have expected that Charles Leclerc could win this Grand Prix as in the practice run Max Verstappen also made a mistake with the track and got into the wrong way, and because the Las Vegas track was pretty much new for all of the drivers and for sure Charles Leclerc have made this track his plaything but for sure he was lucky in getting good at this track but eventually maybe this is Max Verstappen plan aswell as he is new to this track he just get this going but he was really memorizing the track and then explode on the main race for sure,

For sure you can not underestimate Max Verstappen and what he can achieve with that little time in memorizing the Las Vegas tracks,

I really wasnt expecting this good race, i think it gonna be a bad race, but ended up being one of the best race of the season, what do you think?.

Very bad luck for some drivers, Leclerc and Hamilton for example, about Mercedes they really have a good pace, but the crashes and problems destroy their race.

About Verstappen, i have to say the FIA is very soft against him, the first turn incident was his pure fault as always he push Leclerc off the track, and they give 5 seconds very late, when the correct one was give the position back.

For sure it was really an incredible race in the end, but apparently, many drivers don't really want to continue anymore as they have seen this track as dangerous because of the manholes that could blast into them, but that was resolved apparently and many are really questioning he penalty they gave to Carlos Sainz and for sure the Ferrari is frustrated about it you can clearly see in Frédéric Vasseur face that he doesn't like what is happening,

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I really wasnt expecting this good race, i think it gonna be a bad race, but ended up being one of the best race of the season, what do you think?.

Very bad luck for some drivers, Leclerc and Hamilton for example, about Mercedes they really have a good pace, but the crashes and problems destroy their race.

About Verstappen, i have to say the FIA is very soft against him, the first turn incident was his pure fault as always he push Leclerc off the track, and they give 5 seconds very late, when the correct one was give the position back.
It was the best race of the year, based on the battle for the lead. Max didn't look faster than leclerc at the start, he was passed on the track, and after the pits, russell tried to get on him and damaged his car. Checo, meanwhile, with the perfect timing of the safety car, suddenly moved up to second place on zero tyres, passing leclerc. If asked at that moment, most of us would have said that checo would go from here with a gap and max would finish somewhere in the top ten. But checo lost his place to leclerc first, max took off after that, passed both perez and leclerc at his own pace, then went on to open the gap. It was surprisingly a good race to watch.
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I really wasnt expecting this good race, i think it gonna be a bad race, but ended up being one of the best race of the season, what do you think?.

Very bad luck for some drivers, Leclerc and Hamilton for example, about Mercedes they really have a good pace, but the crashes and problems destroy their race.

About Verstappen, i have to say the FIA is very soft against him, the first turn incident was his pure fault as always he push Leclerc off the track, and they give 5 seconds very late, when the correct one was give the position back.
Yeah, it was one of the best races this season. I also was sceptical about Las Vegas, but seems that prejudice isn't good thing. That Leclerc overtake against Perez cherry on top. Interesting how it would ended if Vertappen would helped Perez to defend. But as we saw again, it's not worth to expect such things from Max as he isn't team player.
Wouldn't say that FIA is soft against Max, it's more about how rules are made. Teams with faster cars can afford getting such penalties because for them isn't difficult to gain 5 second advantage and avoid being penalised. If they would impose let's say 30 seconds penalty, similar duration like stop & go penalty, then we would see different image I think.
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I really wasnt expecting this good race, i think it gonna be a bad race, but ended up being one of the best race of the season, what do you think?.

Very bad luck for some drivers, Leclerc and Hamilton for example, about Mercedes they really have a good pace, but the crashes and problems destroy their race.

About Verstappen, i have to say the FIA is very soft against him, the first turn incident was his pure fault as always he push Leclerc off the track, and they give 5 seconds very late, when the correct one was give the position back.
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All over in the end and wow so few DNFs I was actually expecting way more supposedly with the wet tracks and risks of accidents nothing really surprising. Leclerc pole but Max wins, maybe the thing to see is Oscar Piastri getting the fastest lap, I really didn't see that coming.

3 seconds podium, rest 18 seconds behind, what domination from first 3!!
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We have some small rumors about Ferrari not racing this weekend if Fia will not remove the penalty for Sainz.

What do you think?

I think they still joined the final race for Las Vegas, as they don't have any choice at all, the management for Las Vegas might ensure them a big amount just for them to race, and for sure Charles Leclerc is doing fine in this race until Max Verstappen ruined it again by winning the main race, for sure Practice 1 to 3 and Qualifying Charles Leclerc is really dominating this new and unsafe track for sure he is killing it for sure but then Max Verstappen have gotten another win for Red Bull,

Yea , this race weekend is quite the mess right ? I mean Ferrari paid a fortune to repair that car just because the authorities didn't make a complete job to secure the safety of their drivers.

Meanwhile , I'm happy to see Leclerc on pole again but I really hope this time he and his team will find a way to actually keep him on podium or even win the race.

For sure the damage on the F1 and the Ferrari was really severe as they needed to replace something on the car, but what if the manhole covers hit Sainz instead I think that is one dangerous thing that happened and they can not say it was because the Track was only new so accidents can surely happen but it is not acceptable that Carlos Sainz gained penalty because of it, which I think it is not really needed, and I think he is not at fault so the penalty is not necessary, this is just my opinion but enlighten me if what is the real reason behind it,

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I hope for the safety of racing that we will not get another accident like we had today in Vegas and I do hope some sanctions will be applied to both FIA ( for not being 100% sure about safety of the track and manholes ) but also for the organizer of the race.

Also , the conclusion for Ferrari was the this " Carlos Sainz has received a 10-place grid drop for this weekend’s Las Vegas Grand Prix, with Ferrari forced to change a host of power unit components following first practice." This is awful for Ferrari and like I said , I do hope FIA will never put again a show in front of safety drivers.

Many are Disappointed about this Grand Prix sure and instead of the safety of the drivers they are prioritizing the Las Vegas event for sure, which is down-founded as the worst GP and we can not blame all that on FIA because for sure the place Las Vegas is something really is a big event but it become a disaster,

Now Ferrari is really disappointed that the incident was a disaster and it will surely get Ferrari huge damages and could also lead to Carlos Sainz losing his life because of what happened, this thing really is happening, and they should have canceled the event if they can not fully be fixed the track,

Max talked about Las Vegas being just a show and not a real race is right about it, but he should realize that Monaco was about that for 50 years, does he think that Monaco race is a proper race, there isn't even any proper places to have an overtake, it's famously difficult for overtakes and people just crash or pass each other by undercutting or even overcutting if they are lucky, and hope that the opponent has trouble at pit stop, that's not a real race, it's all about the money.

Or the time they had one f1 race have a bomb go off very near, at jeddah if I remember correctly, literally BOMB, and they still kept going, why? Because they needed the money from them, and kept going anyway, not to make the payers mad.

So all in all, Las Vegas is just another step in that direction, we are seeing F1 turn into just a money machine, and that's good, otherwise if they did what's "right" then max wouldn't get 50 million dollars a year that he is taking each season.

WOW! That is just dangerous for sure and after some digging and research that the drivers were really doubtful when making the event in parts of the Middle East, and this is a protest for the drivers many don't want to risk driving anymore into this dangerous place like this but knowing the big money is always involve whether a race will be held the F1 management have forcefully wanted the drivers to continue, but for sure some drivers are really unhappy in Driving on part of the middle east country,
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A total shit the organization and the problem with the sewage, unnaceptable at this level.

Asides of that seems like Ferrari is flying in this circuit i think they have to take this one to cut the diference in points with Mercedes in the constructor championship, is his alst bullet for that.
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Didn't even know about the grid penalty until you mentioned about it.
As you can see from the team principle interview, Vasseur was appalled how this situation was handled as now they have to pay for the repairs the track inspectors that the F1 was incharge of in making sure everything was prepared before the race. There was talk about Ferrari wanting to sue the FIA due to what happened to their team which could of ended way worse.

We have some small rumors about Ferrari not racing this weekend if Fia will not remove the penalty for Sainz.
What do you think?
Doubtful now that FP3 just ended about 45 minutes ago with both Ferrari's clocking in times.
https://racingnews365.com/live-2023-f1-las-vegas-grand-prix-free-practice-3

Qualifying begins in the next few hours and Leclerc is looking like the favorite to win and take pole according to the oddsmakers.

Yea , this race weekend is quite the mess right ? I mean Ferrari paid a fortune to repair that car just because the authorities didn't make a complete job to secure the safety of their drivers.

Meanwhile , I'm happy to see Leclerc on pole again but I really hope this time he and his team will find a way to actually keep him on podium or even win the race.
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So this what all fans were fearing from what the drivers were saying about the brand new track needing to be constructed way too fast.
It was mentioned in several of the podcasts I had been watching all week. The manhole covers spotted all over the track, since this was constructed on a city street.

I wonder actually what happens when flooding is near there. I guess no race because a normal car "floats" over them, F1 cars are even lower. I should know it happened to me while back didn't realize one manhole was flooded it looked like a puddle, my car "floated" and almost flew Tongue

Max talked about Las Vegas being just a show and not a real race is right about it, but he should realize that Monaco was about that for 50 years, does he think that Monaco race is a proper race, there isn't even any proper places to have an overtake, it's famously difficult for overtakes and people just crash or pass each other by undercutting or even overcutting if they are lucky, and hope that the opponent has trouble at pit stop, that's not a real race, it's all about the money.

You hit it spot on. I feel like you disrespect a place, just like football, teams criticized Qatar but never Russia when they played there and never Brazil for doing equally horrible repression of workers and safety concerns, human right records etc. New World Cup even happening next to drug cartel territory LOL.

You eat cake you eat all of it, Max.
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@boltz

Didn't even know about the grid penalty until you mentioned about it.
As you can see from the team principle interview, Vasseur was appalled how this situation was handled as now they have to pay for the repairs the track inspectors that the F1 was incharge of in making sure everything was prepared before the race. There was talk about Ferrari wanting to sue the FIA due to what happened to their team which could of ended way worse.

We have some small rumors about Ferrari not racing this weekend if Fia will not remove the penalty for Sainz.
What do you think?
Doubtful now that FP3 just ended about 45 minutes ago with both Ferrari's clocking in times.
https://racingnews365.com/live-2023-f1-las-vegas-grand-prix-free-practice-3

Qualifying begins in the next few hours and Leclerc is looking like the favorite to win and take pole according to the oddsmakers.
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We have some small rumors about Ferrari not racing this weekend if Fia will not remove the penalty for Sainz.

What do you think?
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Max talked about Las Vegas being just a show and not a real race is right about it, but he should realize that Monaco was about that for 50 years, does he think that Monaco race is a proper race, there isn't even any proper places to have an overtake, it's famously difficult for overtakes and people just crash or pass each other by undercutting or even overcutting if they are lucky, and hope that the opponent has trouble at pit stop, that's not a real race, it's all about the money.

Or the time they had one f1 race have a bomb go off very near, at jeddah if I remember correctly, literally BOMB, and they still kept going, why? Because they needed the money from them, and kept going anyway, not to make the payers mad.

So all in all, Las Vegas is just another step in that direction, we are seeing F1 turn into just a money machine, and that's good, otherwise if they did what's "right" then max wouldn't get 50 million dollars a year that he is taking each season.
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I hope for the safety of racing that we will not get another accident like we had today in Vegas and I do hope some sanctions will be applied to both FIA ( for not being 100% sure about safety of the track and manholes ) but also for the organizer of the race.

Also , the conclusion for Ferrari was the this " Carlos Sainz has received a 10-place grid drop for this weekend’s Las Vegas Grand Prix, with Ferrari forced to change a host of power unit components following first practice." This is awful for Ferrari and like I said , I do hope FIA will never put again a show in front of safety drivers.
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So this what all fans were fearing from what the drivers were saying about the brand new track needing to be constructed way too fast.
It was mentioned in several of the podcasts I had been watching all week. The manhole covers spotted all over the track, since this was constructed on a city street.

Pitline seems to have all the videos available from their channel for this failed FP1:
Christian Horner : They have to check all of the others | FP1 Interviews Las Vegas GP 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1TACLl3cUQ

Carlos Sainz drain hole cover and FP1 is cancelled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUtpYwAc6UM

Unseen Footage of Carlos Sainz’s accident
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd0zJCx9bZ0

Team Principal's Press Conference | Las Vegas Grand Prix 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaH8C8PKPIg

Seems from the first video with Christian Horner who's birthday was mentioned during that interview they will need to extend the Free Practices for tomorrow sounds like the more viable solution for the drivers to get more use to the track.
Because they only got two laps in before the red flag had waved off the race session.
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