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Quote from: KTChampions on July 10, 2022, 02:51:02 PM

Quote from: rdbase on July 10, 2022, 05:09:44 AM

Max Verstappen has the driver with the lowest odds starting in a race at -200 from the sports reporters about 1 hour before the race starts. That is the lowest of any race this season for anyone to win. So from the sounds of it the bookies are in for another Red Bull win at the ring.

Here is link to view those odds:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-race/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-race-62c1fc2144bfecb0717dae30

As you know, bookmakers take into account the amount of money that bettors bet on a particular outcome. It turns out that a huge number of people (or rather money) were bet on Verstappen's victory ... and they all lost Grin

On the one hand, I sympathize with their losses, on the other hand, I don’t know how superintelligent one must be to bet with such a low odds? I bet today with even lower odds, but these were bets on games where there are only 2 players (and two possible winners) and there is no risk of falling out of the race from the actions of third parties. I wonder if these believers in Verstappen's victory will continue to increase the bet and bet again on his victory in the next race? (Martingale).

Very true this does matter while you can view the markets of any sport shift in way of how much is put on which individual the bettors are swaying towards to win out.
This can we viewed in those large betting halls in vegas with the large screens of all bets as they come in and how much of a swing the live odds go is definitely a factor as determining the outcome.
It reminds me of the stock market floor when they are live.

But yeah, Vegas did win that day as everybody and their mothers thought Verstappen would win on home track for his team.
I had fastest lap on a few of my parlays so I got those to cash in at @2.07x on Max.

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I think next race Verstappen might screw a lot of tickets again as Circuit Paul Ricard of France has never been kind to RedBull but neither Ferrari so we might have another Mercedes on the podium. Yesterday , I've missed the fact that Mick got the most votes for DOD and it was a well deserved one even if he kinda deserved to be DOD in last race too when we first scored his F1 points.

So ...keep an eye on RedBull and Ferrari this week as I'm sure we will get a lot of fresh and new intel from them regarding how they will perform or trying to perform on Circuit Paul Ricard.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on July 11, 2022, 03:53:26 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on July 10, 2022, 02:51:02 PM

It turns out that a huge number of people (or rather money) were bet on Verstappen's victory ... and they all lost Grin

On the one hand, I sympathize with their losses

It's RedBull's home track. It's the track he's supposed to know best. Of course he has the highest chance to win. And about the odds, one must be thinking "I better win on low odds than lose on high odds", right?
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At the previous stage, Verstappen's odds were not much less - 1.6. In my opinion it is crazy to bet with such low odds in formula one. Even if you do not take into account competitors (completely remove them), then in order to at least double the bet, you must guess twice that the car will reach the finish line. In my opinion, even this is a big risk. Now those who bet on Verstappen in the previous two races have to guess his victory 4 times (if the odds remain the same) just to get their money back.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 10, 2022, 02:51:02 PM

It turns out that a huge number of people (or rather money) were bet on Verstappen's victory ... and they all lost Grin

On the one hand, I sympathize with their losses

It's RedBull's home track. It's the track he's supposed to know best. Of course he has the highest chance to win. And about the odds, one must be thinking "I better win on low odds than lose on high odds", right?
But Ferrari cars were very good, Leclerc was lucky to have no reliability issues, Checo was knocked out by Russell so he couldn't help.. and this time Ferrari's strategy on Leclerc was good.

Checo abandoning kinda killed the mood for me, I was hoping for a great recovery race...
On the other hand Haas cars had a great race, Ocon too, .. even Lando and Ricci have scored Wink

so overall nice results.
I felt sorry for Sainz.

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Quote from: rdbase on July 10, 2022, 05:09:44 AM

Max Verstappen has the driver with the lowest odds starting in a race at -200 from the sports reporters about 1 hour before the race starts. That is the lowest of any race this season for anyone to win. So from the sounds of it the bookies are in for another Red Bull win at the ring.

Here is link to view those odds:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-race/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-race-62c1fc2144bfecb0717dae30

As you know, bookmakers take into account the amount of money that bettors bet on a particular outcome. It turns out that a huge number of people (or rather money) were bet on Verstappen's victory ... and they all lost Grin

On the one hand, I sympathize with their losses, on the other hand, I don’t know how superintelligent one must be to bet with such a low odds? I bet today with even lower odds, but these were bets on games where there are only 2 players (and two possible winners) and there is no risk of falling out of the race from the actions of third parties. I wonder if these believers in Verstappen's victory will continue to increase the bet and bet again on his victory in the next race? (Martingale).

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Amazing race as i say in the other thread, one thing i fogot to mention was the shit response of the marshals when Sainz car caught fire, come on man you need to go as fast as you can.

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Dang, not good for me, but good for the season, still quite a ways for LeClerc to catch up but could prove to be a precious 6 points, but man the gap between 1/2 and the rest of the best -- Hamilton must be grinning ear to ear though with that finish! Nice going, boltz!

Quote from: Boristhecat on July 10, 2022, 08:23:53 AM

Sainz who won the pole (and finally the race) was quoted as 5.35! And Verstappen as 1.66. Therefore, today's chances are a little closer to reality, given that this time Verstappen will start from first place. But I agree that it makes no sense to bet on such a ridiculous odds, since, apart from other riders, technical problems and accidents can interfere with the distribution of places.

Yeah, absolute waste of time, wonder how many people got burned today and every other race where the top 2 favs just don't make it. To just break even you've to win 2 races, not my cup of tea.

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Finally I'm satisfied ! Leclerc has won this gran prix ! I'm really happy for him !

Maybe Ferrari should work better on the reliability of his cars, also now Sainz were outside with his cars and Leclerc has risked so much Angry

. Hope to see from the next grand prix better things about reliability, Ferrari

deserves possibility to win this year !

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What a win from Leclerc! A well deserved one as he had that problems with the throttle pedal but he managed to keep it under control and finish the race under those circumstances.

Sainz had such a great race until the engine simply went off and then caught fire who kinda scared me as the engine really exploded inside and broke the back of it.

Hamilton was the best choice for me today as I had him in my bet to be the winner of his group against Russel , Norris and Ricciardo. Grin

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Quote from: buwaytress on July 10, 2022, 07:46:21 AM

^ Didn't realise somehow it was always closer before, but I never thought anything below 3/1 was good value for race winner, much less odds half of that! Already have a good start with the Dutch in pole, but very interesting to see all the favourites more or less in the right grid position. Race starts pretty soon, happy Sunday!

Last time the odds were no less absurd:

Quote from: Boristhecat on July 03, 2022, 06:43:12 AM

I'm surprised that Russell, after free practice, still lost qualification to Hamilton. However, they will both be behind the leaders, so the race can change everything. Pretty interesting bookmaker quotes in my opinion:

Verstappen, Max - 1.66
Leclerc, Charles - 4.75
Sainz Jr., Carlos - 5.35
Hamilton, Lewis - 12.60
Perez, Sergio - 18.60
Russell, George - 29.60

Ferrari despite winning the qualification is greatly underestimated.

Sainz who won the pole (and finally the race) was quoted as 5.35! And Verstappen as 1.66. Therefore, today's chances are a little closer to reality, given that this time Verstappen will start from first place. But I agree that it makes no sense to bet on such a ridiculous odds, since, apart from other riders, technical problems and accidents can interfere with the distribution of places.

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^ Didn't realise somehow it was always closer before, but I never thought anything below 3/1 was good value for race winner, much less odds half of that! Already have a good start with the Dutch in pole, but very interesting to see all the favourites more or less in the right grid position. Race starts pretty soon, happy Sunday!

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Max Verstappen has the driver with the lowest odds starting in a race at -200 from the sports reporters about 1 hour before the race starts. That is the lowest of any race this season for anyone to win. So from the sounds of it the bookies are in for another Red Bull win at the ring.

Here is link to view those odds:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-race/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-race-62c1fc2144bfecb0717dae30

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The cars which the FIA see as needing changes are the Ferrari and Red bull. Due to an underneath plank.
Yeah just as it sounds, a piece of wood. An interesting video I watched about what they had underneath their cars seeing footage from their last race.

Austria has a sprint race so to determine who will take pole position in tomorrow's race.
Start time is in about 2.5-3 hours from now according to this website:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/austria-sprint-what-time-it-is-how-to-watch/10335027

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I want to wait a little more to make my picks because i wanna see if Mercedes dont have to change any componnent in the car.

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Looks like there is a sprint race going on for this weekends race in the Austria.

Only just noticed since there wasn't a qualifying link yet but there is one for the sprint race that just popped up.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-sprint/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-sprint-62c330b943e8f312e4c1152a

Practice 2 is also looking like a Verstappen win according to the oddsmakers:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-practice-2/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-practice-2-62c82b59329a0a49c263cc2b

I've made my selections for the F1 Pool earlier today and have him as the outright winner if everything goes Red Bull's way.
They just love him in his team's home country and the bookies do too! Wink

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As a Latin myself , I understand completely how Italians work and it's true , they are too emotive and they don't have the guts to tell to a driver that he is number 2 and he must obey the rules in order for the team to fully benefit from it. I talk with my dad Monday , a day after the race and he told me that Ferrari will never have another Todd to win the championship for them and another Shumacher so they need to discover how to work in team again...which again it doesn't happen this year either and it's been like this since 2007 and even then , it was Massa who kinda let Kimi to win as Ferrari team didn't move a muscle after the race start.

I know that a lot of us are being frustrated of Ferrari and we have all the rights to be but I personally think Ferrari will shine again at some point...maybe under Binotto strategy or not...we will see.

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As I understand it, there was some nonsense and incomprehensible tactics in the work of the team with Leclerc during the race. It is not clear why he was not given a command so that he could get around Perez, and maybe even win the race. Then the gap on points with Verstappen would be seriously reduced.
But in any case, I like Leclerc this season.

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Quote from: püsür on July 06, 2022, 04:45:04 AM

I'm trying to understand, deceiving myself that they know something. If Ferrari's strategy today is for the constructors' championship and then if sainza pit was given priority they did it right. Otherwise, we all know that Sainz is not someone who can do the legendary defense and counter attacks of Lecler. Again, Ferrari ignored Leclerc. Even Red Bull and Mercedes know that Leclerc is a better and more dangerous competitor, but does Ferrari not? The man was faster than sainz with a broken wing, it's a big mistake that leclerc wasn't pitted, didn't you see how the man defended with that car.. It was a shame.

Yeah, I understand what you are saying in where Ferrari let Leclerc at the back while Sainz took the lead. Their team operates differently then Red Bull in that respect since they know Verstappen has more points so it would make complete sense to let him lead so he gathers more points to compete for the overall performance on the leaderboard.
Seems that Ferrari is allow both drivers to spread those points amongst themselves as they see fit.
Being completely up to the drivers while on the track. Because from what I recall during the race Ferrari on the radio told Leclerc "It is up to you" when they were deciding if he should take the position of leader away from Sainz.

Quote from: delfastTions on July 06, 2022, 04:31:59 AM

Yes, it seems that on the home track, red bull will consolidate its advantage and increase the already strong lead over competitors.

Verstappen has already recovered from the early season failures, and Perez managed to get around Leclerc. I actually feel sorry, I love it when Leclerc performs well.

By the way, interestingly, the racers lined up according to the points earned:
Red Bull 1-2, Ferrari 3-4, Mercedes 5-6.

Perez seems to getting the shorter end of the stick on the team now that Max has pulled away from him in the standings on points.
Viewing the odds for the practice race, Leclerc is the favorite to win that one while the odds have not changed on all drivers for the race itself.

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I'm trying to understand, deceiving myself that they know something. If Ferrari's strategy today is for the constructors' championship and then if sainza pit was given priority they did it right. Otherwise, we all know that Sainz is not someone who can do the legendary defense and counter attacks of Lecler. Again, Ferrari ignored Leclerc. Even Red Bull and Mercedes know that Leclerc is a better and more dangerous competitor, but does Ferrari not? The man was faster than sainz with a broken wing, it's a big mistake that leclerc wasn't pitted, didn't you see how the man defended with that car.. It was a shame.

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Yes, it seems that on the home track, red bull will consolidate its advantage and increase the already strong lead over competitors.

Verstappen has already recovered from the early season failures, and Perez managed to get around Leclerc. I actually feel sorry, I love it when Leclerc performs well.

By the way, interestingly, the racers lined up according to the points earned:
Red Bull 1-2, Ferrari 3-4, Mercedes 5-6.

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