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Quote from: rdbase on July 16, 2022, 05:15:03 AM

So very true.
Doesn't anyone remember a late safety car caused Hamilton the title just last season?
That was the wildest finish I had ever seen as the FIA defied their own rules in letting Verstappen pass while all the others could not. It was one of the weird situation that ended up in Red Bull's favor.
I don't like when it comes to controversial decisions like this within seconds of a race ending.

I don't know why Hamilton chose to not appeal... He could easily win the trial.
Even the Red Bull owner (some weeks ago) said that was a mistake.

They gifted a title to Verstappen, with no excuses, they changed the rules and give to him an easy win.

And no, I'm not a Hamilton fan.

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on July 15, 2022, 08:37:57 AM

Quote from: boltz on July 15, 2022, 06:12:56 AM

I think betting in F1 is kinda easy as long as you've watched F1 for a very long period. Sure , F1 will remain unpredictable most of the races as a Safety car can ruin all your bets or it can will all your bets.

Also , if you're a real F1 fan and you know the drivers , cars , tech details and all that is moving in F1 paddock , then it will be even easier for you to draw conclusions based on your own knowledge about F1 and it will be easier to make bets , even if you take big odds as F1 provides only big odds for majority of bets.

Maybe sir, there are too many variant, as you said, it is necessary only a Safety car or a little damage to ruin your bet or to win that. I don't like that. Usually I use to prefer soccer because soccer (in the most case) is most

"predictable" because it gives you that sort of safety that things will go in the way that you've thought about (Sometimes yes and sometimes not, unfortunately)

So very true.
Doesn't anyone remember a late safety car caused Hamilton the title just last season?
That was the wildest finish I had ever seen as the FIA defied their own rules in letting Verstappen pass while all the others could not. It was one of the weird situation that ended up in Red Bull's favor.
I don't like when it comes to controversial decisions like this within seconds of a race ending.

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Quote from: boltz on July 15, 2022, 06:12:56 AM

I think betting in F1 is kinda easy as long as you've watched F1 for a very long period. Sure , F1 will remain unpredictable most of the races as a Safety car can ruin all your bets or it can will all your bets.

Also , if you're a real F1 fan and you know the drivers , cars , tech details and all that is moving in F1 paddock , then it will be even easier for you to draw conclusions based on your own knowledge about F1 and it will be easier to make bets , even if you take big odds as F1 provides only big odds for majority of bets.

Maybe sir, there are too many variant, as you said, it is necessary only a Safety car or a little damage to ruin your bet or to win that. I don't like that. Usually I use to prefer soccer because soccer (in the most case) is most

"predictable" because it gives you that sort of safety that things will go in the way that you've thought about (Sometimes yes and sometimes not, unfortunately)

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on July 14, 2022, 10:57:59 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on July 13, 2022, 07:39:22 AM

I do not bet on formula 1. This is just my reasoning about those who bet on his victory with such ridiculous odds of 1.5-1.6. In my opinion, such bets are absolutely unprofitable whether it is a martingale or not. And I understand that even with such ridiculous odds you can be profitable (in the end, before the end of the season, Verstappen will win several races, this is obvious), but this will be 3-4% of profit in half a year - this is of no interest to anyone.

I also not bet in formula 1 because there is an high risk to do that, there are too much variant and it is so easy to lose (see what is happened to verstappen last two weeks or carlos sainz last week). There are also odds

that isn't so appetible, so, I prefer to avoid it. Soccer will be always my preferite way to bet Grin

Risk in football, formula 1, etc. almost the same everywhere. Formula 1 is a slow competition (too long distance with low number of events) I don't like slow bets. But maybe I will change my mind, because the main point is to make value bets on outcomes, the probability of which the bookmakers have determined incorrectly. For example, at the end of last season, I wrote that Hamilton is greatly overrated, and Verstappen is underestimated (in terms of the championship). This was evident 3-4 races before the end of the championship. Now we see how Ferrari drivers are regularly underestimated and Verstappen overestimated. There are opportunities to earn money here.

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I think betting in F1 is kinda easy as long as you've watched F1 for a very long period. Sure , F1 will remain unpredictable most of the races as a Safety car can ruin all your bets or it can will all your bets.

Also , if you're a real F1 fan and you know the drivers , cars , tech details and all that is moving in F1 paddock , then it will be even easier for you to draw conclusions based on your own knowledge about F1 and it will be easier to make bets , even if you take big odds as F1 provides only big odds for majority of bets.

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Well there are so many variation to bet on when it comes to the F1, I don't see why it would be different to bet on then any other sport.
Not everybody just chooses the winner market when they place their bets.
I made one for the last race on the fastest lap and it won.
So if you decide to use the other markets it can be a successful betslip if you chose the right ones.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 13, 2022, 07:39:22 AM

Quote from: sana54210 on July 12, 2022, 10:08:08 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on July 12, 2022, 10:22:31 AM

It turns out that if those who have already bet on Verstappen and lost their money will try to win back, then they will bet even more money on him in the next race ... so we will see even crazier odds like 1.4 Grin

It's pretty funny. In football or tennis, if a team does not win, the odds of winning it in the next game increase, but in formula 1, the opposite picture has been observed so far.

Doing a martingale on Verstappen? I mean not the worst of the ideas, of course he would eventually win one race, we all know that. But, will it be easy to do that? I mean it's not like you just gamble 100-200-400-800 in that situation, because to get it back, you need to gamble more than 2x of it to just recoup what you just lost, and that means if he loses 3-4 races in a row, you would be out a huge amount, depending on what your base bet was.

I am not saying it's a bad idea, I am just saying that you have to have a deep pocket to test something like this. This isn't dice where you can gamble a million times back to back, you need to make sure that you gamble a bit before you could gamble again after a week or even longer break.

I do not bet on formula 1. This is just my reasoning about those who bet on his victory with such ridiculous odds of 1.5-1.6. In my opinion, such bets are absolutely unprofitable whether it is a martingale or not. And I understand that even with such ridiculous odds you can be profitable (in the end, before the end of the season, Verstappen will win several races, this is obvious), but this will be 3-4% of profit in half a year - this is of no interest to anyone.

I also not bet in formula 1 because there is an high risk to do that, there are too much variant and it is so easy to lose (see what is happened to verstappen last two weeks or carlos sainz last week). There are also odds

that isn't so appetible, so, I prefer to avoid it. Soccer will be always my preferite way to bet Grin

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Quote from: sana54210 on July 12, 2022, 10:08:08 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on July 12, 2022, 10:22:31 AM

It turns out that if those who have already bet on Verstappen and lost their money will try to win back, then they will bet even more money on him in the next race ... so we will see even crazier odds like 1.4 Grin

It's pretty funny. In football or tennis, if a team does not win, the odds of winning it in the next game increase, but in formula 1, the opposite picture has been observed so far.

Doing a martingale on Verstappen? I mean not the worst of the ideas, of course he would eventually win one race, we all know that. But, will it be easy to do that? I mean it's not like you just gamble 100-200-400-800 in that situation, because to get it back, you need to gamble more than 2x of it to just recoup what you just lost, and that means if he loses 3-4 races in a row, you would be out a huge amount, depending on what your base bet was.

I am not saying it's a bad idea, I am just saying that you have to have a deep pocket to test something like this. This isn't dice where you can gamble a million times back to back, you need to make sure that you gamble a bit before you could gamble again after a week or even longer break.

I do not bet on formula 1. This is just my reasoning about those who bet on his victory with such ridiculous odds of 1.5-1.6. In my opinion, such bets are absolutely unprofitable whether it is a martingale or not. And I understand that even with such ridiculous odds you can be profitable (in the end, before the end of the season, Verstappen will win several races, this is obvious), but this will be 3-4% of profit in half a year - this is of no interest to anyone.

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Leclerc's excellent performance in the last races made me very happy. I think pleased as well as all the many fans of this rider. However, the points gap with Verstappen is still quite large.
But I feel that Leclerc is in good shape and we will have another interesting fight in the second half of the season.
Even the “old man” Hamilton also pleased.

But I think he still does not get to the very top of the champions. He, however, continues to be an F1 legend without that.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 12, 2022, 10:22:31 AM

It turns out that if those who have already bet on Verstappen and lost their money will try to win back, then they will bet even more money on him in the next race ... so we will see even crazier odds like 1.4 Grin

It's pretty funny. In football or tennis, if a team does not win, the odds of winning it in the next game increase, but in formula 1, the opposite picture has been observed so far.

Doing a martingale on Verstappen? I mean not the worst of the ideas, of course he would eventually win one race, we all know that. But, will it be easy to do that? I mean it's not like you just gamble 100-200-400-800 in that situation, because to get it back, you need to gamble more than 2x of it to just recoup what you just lost, and that means if he loses 3-4 races in a row, you would be out a huge amount, depending on what your base bet was.

I am not saying it's a bad idea, I am just saying that you have to have a deep pocket to test something like this. This isn't dice where you can gamble a million times back to back, you need to make sure that you gamble a bit before you could gamble again after a week or even longer break.

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Quote from: rdbase on July 12, 2022, 05:30:01 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on July 10, 2022, 02:51:02 PM

As you know, bookmakers take into account the amount of money that bettors bet on a particular outcome. It turns out that a huge number of people (or rather money) were bet on Verstappen's victory ... and they all lost Grin

On the one hand, I sympathize with their losses, on the other hand, I don’t know how superintelligent one must be to bet with such a low odds? I bet today with even lower odds, but these were bets on games where there are only 2 players (and two possible winners) and there is no risk of falling out of the race from the actions of third parties. I wonder if these believers in Verstappen's victory will continue to increase the bet and bet again on his victory in the next race? (Martingale).

Very true this does matter while you can view the markets of any sport shift in way of how much is put on which individual the bettors are swaying towards to win out.
This can we viewed in those large betting halls in vegas with the large screens of all bets as they come in and how much of a swing the live odds go is definitely a factor as determining the outcome.
It reminds me of the stock market floor when they are live.

But yeah, Vegas did win that day as everybody and their mothers thought Verstappen would win on home track for his team.
I had fastest lap on a few of my parlays so I got those to cash in at @2.07x on Max.

It turns out that if those who have already bet on Verstappen and lost their money will try to win back, then they will bet even more money on him in the next race ... so we will see even crazier odds like 1.4 Grin

It's pretty funny. In football or tennis, if a team does not win, the odds of winning it in the next game increase, but in formula 1, the opposite picture has been observed so far.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 10, 2022, 02:51:02 PM

Quote from: rdbase on July 10, 2022, 05:09:44 AM

Max Verstappen has the driver with the lowest odds starting in a race at -200 from the sports reporters about 1 hour before the race starts. That is the lowest of any race this season for anyone to win. So from the sounds of it the bookies are in for another Red Bull win at the ring.

Here is link to view those odds:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-race/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-race-62c1fc2144bfecb0717dae30

As you know, bookmakers take into account the amount of money that bettors bet on a particular outcome. It turns out that a huge number of people (or rather money) were bet on Verstappen's victory ... and they all lost Grin

On the one hand, I sympathize with their losses, on the other hand, I don’t know how superintelligent one must be to bet with such a low odds? I bet today with even lower odds, but these were bets on games where there are only 2 players (and two possible winners) and there is no risk of falling out of the race from the actions of third parties. I wonder if these believers in Verstappen's victory will continue to increase the bet and bet again on his victory in the next race? (Martingale).

Very true this does matter while you can view the markets of any sport shift in way of how much is put on which individual the bettors are swaying towards to win out.
This can we viewed in those large betting halls in vegas with the large screens of all bets as they come in and how much of a swing the live odds go is definitely a factor as determining the outcome.
It reminds me of the stock market floor when they are live.

But yeah, Vegas did win that day as everybody and their mothers thought Verstappen would win on home track for his team.
I had fastest lap on a few of my parlays so I got those to cash in at @2.07x on Max.

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I think next race Verstappen might screw a lot of tickets again as Circuit Paul Ricard of France has never been kind to RedBull but neither Ferrari so we might have another Mercedes on the podium. Yesterday , I've missed the fact that Mick got the most votes for DOD and it was a well deserved one even if he kinda deserved to be DOD in last race too when we first scored his F1 points.

So ...keep an eye on RedBull and Ferrari this week as I'm sure we will get a lot of fresh and new intel from them regarding how they will perform or trying to perform on Circuit Paul Ricard.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on July 11, 2022, 03:53:26 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on July 10, 2022, 02:51:02 PM

It turns out that a huge number of people (or rather money) were bet on Verstappen's victory ... and they all lost Grin

On the one hand, I sympathize with their losses

It's RedBull's home track. It's the track he's supposed to know best. Of course he has the highest chance to win. And about the odds, one must be thinking "I better win on low odds than lose on high odds", right?
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At the previous stage, Verstappen's odds were not much less - 1.6. In my opinion it is crazy to bet with such low odds in formula one. Even if you do not take into account competitors (completely remove them), then in order to at least double the bet, you must guess twice that the car will reach the finish line. In my opinion, even this is a big risk. Now those who bet on Verstappen in the previous two races have to guess his victory 4 times (if the odds remain the same) just to get their money back.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 10, 2022, 02:51:02 PM

It turns out that a huge number of people (or rather money) were bet on Verstappen's victory ... and they all lost Grin

On the one hand, I sympathize with their losses

It's RedBull's home track. It's the track he's supposed to know best. Of course he has the highest chance to win. And about the odds, one must be thinking "I better win on low odds than lose on high odds", right?
But Ferrari cars were very good, Leclerc was lucky to have no reliability issues, Checo was knocked out by Russell so he couldn't help.. and this time Ferrari's strategy on Leclerc was good.

Checo abandoning kinda killed the mood for me, I was hoping for a great recovery race...
On the other hand Haas cars had a great race, Ocon too, .. even Lando and Ricci have scored Wink

so overall nice results.
I felt sorry for Sainz.

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Quote from: rdbase on July 10, 2022, 05:09:44 AM

Max Verstappen has the driver with the lowest odds starting in a race at -200 from the sports reporters about 1 hour before the race starts. That is the lowest of any race this season for anyone to win. So from the sounds of it the bookies are in for another Red Bull win at the ring.

Here is link to view those odds:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-race/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-race-62c1fc2144bfecb0717dae30

As you know, bookmakers take into account the amount of money that bettors bet on a particular outcome. It turns out that a huge number of people (or rather money) were bet on Verstappen's victory ... and they all lost Grin

On the one hand, I sympathize with their losses, on the other hand, I don’t know how superintelligent one must be to bet with such a low odds? I bet today with even lower odds, but these were bets on games where there are only 2 players (and two possible winners) and there is no risk of falling out of the race from the actions of third parties. I wonder if these believers in Verstappen's victory will continue to increase the bet and bet again on his victory in the next race? (Martingale).

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Amazing race as i say in the other thread, one thing i fogot to mention was the shit response of the marshals when Sainz car caught fire, come on man you need to go as fast as you can.

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Dang, not good for me, but good for the season, still quite a ways for LeClerc to catch up but could prove to be a precious 6 points, but man the gap between 1/2 and the rest of the best -- Hamilton must be grinning ear to ear though with that finish! Nice going, boltz!

Quote from: Boristhecat on July 10, 2022, 08:23:53 AM

Sainz who won the pole (and finally the race) was quoted as 5.35! And Verstappen as 1.66. Therefore, today's chances are a little closer to reality, given that this time Verstappen will start from first place. But I agree that it makes no sense to bet on such a ridiculous odds, since, apart from other riders, technical problems and accidents can interfere with the distribution of places.

Yeah, absolute waste of time, wonder how many people got burned today and every other race where the top 2 favs just don't make it. To just break even you've to win 2 races, not my cup of tea.

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Finally I'm satisfied ! Leclerc has won this gran prix ! I'm really happy for him !

Maybe Ferrari should work better on the reliability of his cars, also now Sainz were outside with his cars and Leclerc has risked so much Angry

. Hope to see from the next grand prix better things about reliability, Ferrari

deserves possibility to win this year !

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What a win from Leclerc! A well deserved one as he had that problems with the throttle pedal but he managed to keep it under control and finish the race under those circumstances.

Sainz had such a great race until the engine simply went off and then caught fire who kinda scared me as the engine really exploded inside and broke the back of it.

Hamilton was the best choice for me today as I had him in my bet to be the winner of his group against Russel , Norris and Ricciardo. Grin

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