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Quote from: buwaytress on July 10, 2022, 07:46:21 AM

^ Didn't realise somehow it was always closer before, but I never thought anything below 3/1 was good value for race winner, much less odds half of that! Already have a good start with the Dutch in pole, but very interesting to see all the favourites more or less in the right grid position. Race starts pretty soon, happy Sunday!

Last time the odds were no less absurd:

Quote from: Boristhecat on July 03, 2022, 06:43:12 AM

I'm surprised that Russell, after free practice, still lost qualification to Hamilton. However, they will both be behind the leaders, so the race can change everything. Pretty interesting bookmaker quotes in my opinion:

Verstappen, Max - 1.66
Leclerc, Charles - 4.75
Sainz Jr., Carlos - 5.35
Hamilton, Lewis - 12.60
Perez, Sergio - 18.60
Russell, George - 29.60

Ferrari despite winning the qualification is greatly underestimated.

Sainz who won the pole (and finally the race) was quoted as 5.35! And Verstappen as 1.66. Therefore, today's chances are a little closer to reality, given that this time Verstappen will start from first place. But I agree that it makes no sense to bet on such a ridiculous odds, since, apart from other riders, technical problems and accidents can interfere with the distribution of places.

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^ Didn't realise somehow it was always closer before, but I never thought anything below 3/1 was good value for race winner, much less odds half of that! Already have a good start with the Dutch in pole, but very interesting to see all the favourites more or less in the right grid position. Race starts pretty soon, happy Sunday!

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Max Verstappen has the driver with the lowest odds starting in a race at -200 from the sports reporters about 1 hour before the race starts. That is the lowest of any race this season for anyone to win. So from the sounds of it the bookies are in for another Red Bull win at the ring.

Here is link to view those odds:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-race/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-race-62c1fc2144bfecb0717dae30

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The cars which the FIA see as needing changes are the Ferrari and Red bull. Due to an underneath plank.
Yeah just as it sounds, a piece of wood. An interesting video I watched about what they had underneath their cars seeing footage from their last race.

Austria has a sprint race so to determine who will take pole position in tomorrow's race.
Start time is in about 2.5-3 hours from now according to this website:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/austria-sprint-what-time-it-is-how-to-watch/10335027

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I want to wait a little more to make my picks because i wanna see if Mercedes dont have to change any componnent in the car.

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Looks like there is a sprint race going on for this weekends race in the Austria.

Only just noticed since there wasn't a qualifying link yet but there is one for the sprint race that just popped up.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-sprint/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-sprint-62c330b943e8f312e4c1152a

Practice 2 is also looking like a Verstappen win according to the oddsmakers:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-practice-2/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-practice-2-62c82b59329a0a49c263cc2b

I've made my selections for the F1 Pool earlier today and have him as the outright winner if everything goes Red Bull's way.
They just love him in his team's home country and the bookies do too! Wink

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As a Latin myself , I understand completely how Italians work and it's true , they are too emotive and they don't have the guts to tell to a driver that he is number 2 and he must obey the rules in order for the team to fully benefit from it. I talk with my dad Monday , a day after the race and he told me that Ferrari will never have another Todd to win the championship for them and another Shumacher so they need to discover how to work in team again...which again it doesn't happen this year either and it's been like this since 2007 and even then , it was Massa who kinda let Kimi to win as Ferrari team didn't move a muscle after the race start.

I know that a lot of us are being frustrated of Ferrari and we have all the rights to be but I personally think Ferrari will shine again at some point...maybe under Binotto strategy or not...we will see.

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As I understand it, there was some nonsense and incomprehensible tactics in the work of the team with Leclerc during the race. It is not clear why he was not given a command so that he could get around Perez, and maybe even win the race. Then the gap on points with Verstappen would be seriously reduced.
But in any case, I like Leclerc this season.

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Quote from: püsür on July 06, 2022, 04:45:04 AM

I'm trying to understand, deceiving myself that they know something. If Ferrari's strategy today is for the constructors' championship and then if sainza pit was given priority they did it right. Otherwise, we all know that Sainz is not someone who can do the legendary defense and counter attacks of Lecler. Again, Ferrari ignored Leclerc. Even Red Bull and Mercedes know that Leclerc is a better and more dangerous competitor, but does Ferrari not? The man was faster than sainz with a broken wing, it's a big mistake that leclerc wasn't pitted, didn't you see how the man defended with that car.. It was a shame.

Yeah, I understand what you are saying in where Ferrari let Leclerc at the back while Sainz took the lead. Their team operates differently then Red Bull in that respect since they know Verstappen has more points so it would make complete sense to let him lead so he gathers more points to compete for the overall performance on the leaderboard.
Seems that Ferrari is allow both drivers to spread those points amongst themselves as they see fit.
Being completely up to the drivers while on the track. Because from what I recall during the race Ferrari on the radio told Leclerc "It is up to you" when they were deciding if he should take the position of leader away from Sainz.

Quote from: delfastTions on July 06, 2022, 04:31:59 AM

Yes, it seems that on the home track, red bull will consolidate its advantage and increase the already strong lead over competitors.

Verstappen has already recovered from the early season failures, and Perez managed to get around Leclerc. I actually feel sorry, I love it when Leclerc performs well.

By the way, interestingly, the racers lined up according to the points earned:
Red Bull 1-2, Ferrari 3-4, Mercedes 5-6.

Perez seems to getting the shorter end of the stick on the team now that Max has pulled away from him in the standings on points.
Viewing the odds for the practice race, Leclerc is the favorite to win that one while the odds have not changed on all drivers for the race itself.

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I'm trying to understand, deceiving myself that they know something. If Ferrari's strategy today is for the constructors' championship and then if sainza pit was given priority they did it right. Otherwise, we all know that Sainz is not someone who can do the legendary defense and counter attacks of Lecler. Again, Ferrari ignored Leclerc. Even Red Bull and Mercedes know that Leclerc is a better and more dangerous competitor, but does Ferrari not? The man was faster than sainz with a broken wing, it's a big mistake that leclerc wasn't pitted, didn't you see how the man defended with that car.. It was a shame.

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Yes, it seems that on the home track, red bull will consolidate its advantage and increase the already strong lead over competitors.

Verstappen has already recovered from the early season failures, and Perez managed to get around Leclerc. I actually feel sorry, I love it when Leclerc performs well.

By the way, interestingly, the racers lined up according to the points earned:
Red Bull 1-2, Ferrari 3-4, Mercedes 5-6.

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Another week another race over the weekend this time in Austria where Red Bull usually reign supreme on their home track.

race: https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-race/grosser-preis-von-osterreich-2022-race-62c1fc2144bfecb0717dae30

Odds for Max Verstappen are the best to take at the Red Bull ring!

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Indeed I was hehe. Serious now , they had good start positions and if neither of them wouldn't won in Silverstone , I think that would have been the ending for Constructor championship and Driver championship but I'm glad it didn't happen and Sainz took a hard working victory.

The odds were 5.50 For Sainz and Leclerc had around 4.75 and McLaren 3.70. I took them just before the race with 1 hour.

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Quote from: boltz on July 04, 2022, 04:00:20 AM

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Quote from: boltz on July 03, 2022, 04:19:37 PM

Sainz had pure commitment after restart and he knew he needs to overtake as soon as possible or Ferrari will most likely lose both places so that was a wise decision from him

Yeah, against team orders too apparently, but seems like he could sense the team wasn't at their best, many questionable decisions (and I can only know post-race since I don't hear audio when following the way I do). Funny that they fix their engine issue (for the race anyway) and then find a way to screw up decision-making.

You didn't say if you managed to actually take the Sainz bet you were thinking of?

I had 3 bets :

1. Leclerc to win

2. Sainz to win

3. McLaren both points.

Hit 1/3 but the odd was 5.30 I think so ended up pretty good I say but unfortunately Ricciardo had such a terrible race that he couldn't move in placed from 13rd place....

You were on Ferrari to win the race all along.
Those odds before qualifying must of been higher than Hamilton to win @15x which I was on. Didn't even look at Sainz so wouldn't have known what the odds of him winning were.
But getting him at the over 5x as you did would be a good payout for just a $25 bet.
So congrats to those who believed in a driver who hadn't won at Silverstone before.

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Once again proving that if you want to win as a Ferrari driver, you just need to ignore the orders Cheesy

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I mean letting Charles stay upfront with those tires, just so sainz would be doing worse? Any smart team would know that you get the fresh tire upfront right away, and give the orders to Charles to keep whoever comes there for as long as possible, allowing Sainz to go as further as possible.

It was already known that Charles would have lost positions, so you would only be slowing everyone down. Sad to see crashes and all, that was a bad race but lovely to see Zhou get out and walking, and loved the race itself after that, wouldn't want harm on anyone obviously so it wasn't good in that case, but the famous shot of 5 different constructors all within like 20-30 meters was one of the most epic scenes we have seen in a long time, that rarely happens anymore.

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Quote from: boltz on July 04, 2022, 04:00:20 AM

Quote from: buwaytress on July 04, 2022, 03:30:43 AM

Quote from: boltz on July 03, 2022, 04:19:37 PM

Sainz had pure commitment after restart and he knew he needs to overtake as soon as possible or Ferrari will most likely lose both places so that was a wise decision from him

Yeah, against team orders too apparently, but seems like he could sense the team wasn't at their best, many questionable decisions (and I can only know post-race since I don't hear audio when following the way I do). Funny that they fix their engine issue (for the race anyway) and then find a way to screw up decision-making.

You didn't say if you managed to actually take the Sainz bet you were thinking of?

I had 3 bets :

1. Leclerc to win

2. Sainz to win

3. McLaren both points.

Hit 1/3 but the odd was 5.30 I think so ended up pretty good I say but unfortunately Ricciardo had such a terrible race that he couldn't move in placed from 13rd place....

You were really brave to put a bet on Sainz, congratulation Sir Grin

There were only bad luck for Leclerc yesterday, with change of tires he would surely won the grand prix ! Why you put also a bet on Mclaren points? That is so strange Huh

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on July 03, 2022, 03:41:23 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on July 03, 2022, 02:26:29 PM

From the point of view of the final result, everything is more or less logical - Sainz made a double, another thing is that there was a certain chaos in the race and probably everyone had a chance (especially considering accidents). I see that the bookmakers did not believe in the victory of Sainz at all and probably someone took advantage of this.

He doesn't know either how he won the race.

Fun statistic, his first win was 12 years ago with the pole and victory (in another category) in the same track.

The 1st win is a huge step, he will have not to think anymore about it, and his mind will be free.

But in my opinion it is clear that the one who wins the pole has a better chance of winning than the rest, no matter what happens in the race. Maybe the bookmakers were expecting the Ferraris to retire because of the engines, but in fact we see that they were wrong in giving such generous odds on the victory of the Ferrari pilots.

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Quote from: buwaytress on July 04, 2022, 03:30:43 AM

Quote from: boltz on July 03, 2022, 04:19:37 PM

Sainz had pure commitment after restart and he knew he needs to overtake as soon as possible or Ferrari will most likely lose both places so that was a wise decision from him

Yeah, against team orders too apparently, but seems like he could sense the team wasn't at their best, many questionable decisions (and I can only know post-race since I don't hear audio when following the way I do). Funny that they fix their engine issue (for the race anyway) and then find a way to screw up decision-making.

You didn't say if you managed to actually take the Sainz bet you were thinking of?

I had 3 bets :

1. Leclerc to win

2. Sainz to win

3. McLaren both points.

Hit 1/3 but the odd was 5.30 I think so ended up pretty good I say but unfortunately Ricciardo had such a terrible race that he couldn't move in placed from 13rd place....

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Quote from: boltz on July 03, 2022, 04:19:37 PM

Sainz had pure commitment after restart and he knew he needs to overtake as soon as possible or Ferrari will most likely lose both places so that was a wise decision from him

Yeah, against team orders too apparently, but seems like he could sense the team wasn't at their best, many questionable decisions (and I can only know post-race since I don't hear audio when following the way I do). Funny that they fix their engine issue (for the race anyway) and then find a way to screw up decision-making.

You didn't say if you managed to actually take the Sainz bet you were thinking of?

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I still have to look more times at least, in slow motion, to that crash. I still don't understand what has happened there. I'm incredibly happy that nobody got hurt.
The overall race was mad. I will watch it again. Indeed almost anybody could win. I am happy for Carlos though. He does deserve victories in F1. Impressive run for Checo though. And also for Lewis, I have to admit that.

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