Topic: F2Pool「魚池」🐟 - page 18. (Read 169418 times)
I'm curious to know what exactly you're paying for IXC mining? The last generated coins were mined quite some time ago, so there are no new coins for finding blocks.
Hi,
Is F2pool dropping iXcoin merge mining?
No. We only reduced the hashrate by half to allow other people joining in.
Hi,
Is F2pool dropping iXcoin merge mining?
Five million litecoins generated at F2Pool
F2Pool miner pcfli6 found our 100000th Litecoin block earlier this morning. We have generated more than 5000000 litecoins so far.
F2Pool miner pcfli6 found our 100000th Litecoin block earlier this morning. We have generated more than 5000000 litecoins so far.
hi,
why is it not accepting ioc address ?
I0CI0coin payout = BTC × 7
Address
Address format incorrect.
Change Lock Reminder: Locked address cannot be unlocked or changed. Please proceed with caution.
why is it not accepting ioc address ?
I0CI0coin payout = BTC × 7
Address
Address format incorrect.
Change Lock Reminder: Locked address cannot be unlocked or changed. Please proceed with caution.
Did you try to fill in an address of IOC instead I0C?
got it right now. my bad. thx.
So got a question, not sure if its been answered or not yet, but seeing you recently added huntercoin (which is both sha256/scrypt merged mined) do ltc miners also get huc coins if we mining scrypt only? I know btc miners do.
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We do both sha256d and scrypt. And it is not "recently". Huntercoin has been merged mined at F2Pool from the coin's day one.
Anyway, f2pool has been doing it for a while, so it's definitely not a "recent" thing
. hi,
why is it not accepting ioc address ?
I0CI0coin payout = BTC × 7
Address
Address format incorrect.
Change Lock Reminder: Locked address cannot be unlocked or changed. Please proceed with caution.
why is it not accepting ioc address ?
I0CI0coin payout = BTC × 7
Address
Address format incorrect.
Change Lock Reminder: Locked address cannot be unlocked or changed. Please proceed with caution.
Did you try to fill in an address of IOC instead I0C?
hi,
why is it not accepting ioc address ?
I0CI0coin payout = BTC × 7
Address
Address format incorrect.
Change Lock Reminder: Locked address cannot be unlocked or changed. Please proceed with caution.
why is it not accepting ioc address ?
I0CI0coin payout = BTC × 7
Address
Address format incorrect.
Change Lock Reminder: Locked address cannot be unlocked or changed. Please proceed with caution.
So got a question, not sure if its been answered or not yet, but seeing you recently added huntercoin (which is both sha256/scrypt merged mined) do ltc miners also get huc coins if we mining scrypt only? I know btc miners do.
Thanks
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We do both sha256d and scrypt. And it is not "recently". Huntercoin has been merged mined at F2Pool from the coin's day one.
So got a question, not sure if its been answered or not yet, but seeing you recently added huntercoin (which is both sha256/scrypt merged mined) do ltc miners also get huc coins if we mining scrypt only? I know btc miners do.
Thanks
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Thanks
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We will continue do SPV mining despite the incident, and I think so will AntPool and BTC China.
Another very good reason people should not mine on Chinese pools. This is EXTREMELY bad for the Bitcoin network.
... but that's where the vast majority of the ASICs are made!1 Who could have guessed where the hashing power would go? *ponder*
As long as people keep pointing hash to this pool, there is no incentive for a change. Since they've still got over 70PH/s, it doesn't seem too many people are doing much complaining about their practices.
Which is why I point my actual miners here. My friend provided his office and 1.5 kwatts at 3 cents a kwatt and I provided the miners.
Pointing them here gives us simple easy predictability of income. No other pool does it as well.
Not true.
According to this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-pools-payout-rates-experiment-real-miners-tablegraph-results-1059040
High stale shares will suck all the possible profit.
No point mining there for EU/USA. China network lines are rubbish.
(All times below are as they specify UTC+00)
Yes, I stand corrected it was 4 f2pool blocks, not 5.
The main 'V2 fork was':
The first V2 in the longer fork (yes this wasn't actually the first V2 block after the change over)
2015-07-04 02:09:28+00 0000000000000000009cc829aa25b40b2cd4eb83dd498c12ad0d26d90c439d99 BTC Nuggets
Then F2Pool caused the extended fork by mining on that block:
All the below were V3 layered on top of the V2:
2015-07-04 02:23:06+00 0000000000000000155f2519d35cd5d2869900bcc5093594b27763a0315390b4 F2Pool
2015-07-04 02:49:11+00 00000000000000000cb7a20ee4e199e347ad7369936abae53a1518efa531ec61 F2Pool
2015-07-04 02:52:18+00 00000000000000000966d65e0fd87d1d5a8f154a2c955816c28e2006e381aa18 AntPool (shortly after this I contacted Bitmain)
2015-07-04 02:56:54+00 00000000000000001301bfd6f566a421c7eeba103d09b312032ca065cb185de7 F2Pool
2015-07-04 03:05:59+00 000000000000000013fe26675faa8f7dccd55ce5485bb6d0373fa66345901436 F2Pool
So AntPool switched some time after 2015-07-04 02:52:18+00
and F2Pool switched some time after 2015-07-04 03:05:59+00
we also know the latest they could have switched by their next block on the 'V3 fork'
F2Pool:
2015-07-04 04:33:01+00 00000000000000000d0d362a2fbb3c3e7c8c748cc169ea90663cd18a354bc09b
AntPool: (earlier)
2015-07-04 04:09:31+00 00000000000000000b9d7006b0a893302e02becbc2faf78e79e000bb51721db0
Both pools were obviously mining on the 'v2 fork' since 2015-07-04 02:09:28+00
Yes, I stand corrected it was 4 f2pool blocks, not 5.
The main 'V2 fork was':
The first V2 in the longer fork (yes this wasn't actually the first V2 block after the change over)
2015-07-04 02:09:28+00 0000000000000000009cc829aa25b40b2cd4eb83dd498c12ad0d26d90c439d99 BTC Nuggets
Then F2Pool caused the extended fork by mining on that block:
All the below were V3 layered on top of the V2:
2015-07-04 02:23:06+00 0000000000000000155f2519d35cd5d2869900bcc5093594b27763a0315390b4 F2Pool
2015-07-04 02:49:11+00 00000000000000000cb7a20ee4e199e347ad7369936abae53a1518efa531ec61 F2Pool
2015-07-04 02:52:18+00 00000000000000000966d65e0fd87d1d5a8f154a2c955816c28e2006e381aa18 AntPool (shortly after this I contacted Bitmain)
2015-07-04 02:56:54+00 00000000000000001301bfd6f566a421c7eeba103d09b312032ca065cb185de7 F2Pool
2015-07-04 03:05:59+00 000000000000000013fe26675faa8f7dccd55ce5485bb6d0373fa66345901436 F2Pool
So AntPool switched some time after 2015-07-04 02:52:18+00
and F2Pool switched some time after 2015-07-04 03:05:59+00
we also know the latest they could have switched by their next block on the 'V3 fork'
F2Pool:
2015-07-04 04:33:01+00 00000000000000000d0d362a2fbb3c3e7c8c748cc169ea90663cd18a354bc09b
AntPool: (earlier)
2015-07-04 04:09:31+00 00000000000000000b9d7006b0a893302e02becbc2faf78e79e000bb51721db0
Both pools were obviously mining on the 'v2 fork' since 2015-07-04 02:09:28+00
There was another one:
BTC China started to mine on BTC Nuggets' invalid block 363726 0000000000000000032527aa796d3672e32e5f85a452d3a584a28fc7efbcd5d0 at 01:56:19.25Z, we followed 0.23 seconds later, and AntPool 1.58 seconds later, until 01:59:44.61Z when BW found block 000000000000000002279afdc82b23535938b34a0cb4aaa04dcb85dc1768608e of the same height. All three pools started to mine on 363727 000000000000000002279afdc82b23535938b34a0cb4aaa04dcb85dc1768608e. 3 minutes, 25 seconds lost in total, no blocks were found during this period.
(All times below are as they specify UTC+00)
Yes, I stand corrected it was 4 f2pool blocks, not 5.
The main 'V2 fork was':
The first V2 in the longer fork (yes this wasn't actually the first V2 block after the change over)
2015-07-04 02:09:28+00 0000000000000000009cc829aa25b40b2cd4eb83dd498c12ad0d26d90c439d99 BTC Nuggets
Then F2Pool caused the extended fork by mining on that block:
All the below were V3 layered on top of the V2:
2015-07-04 02:23:06+00 0000000000000000155f2519d35cd5d2869900bcc5093594b27763a0315390b4 F2Pool
2015-07-04 02:49:11+00 00000000000000000cb7a20ee4e199e347ad7369936abae53a1518efa531ec61 F2Pool
2015-07-04 02:52:18+00 00000000000000000966d65e0fd87d1d5a8f154a2c955816c28e2006e381aa18 AntPool (shortly after this I contacted Bitmain)
2015-07-04 02:56:54+00 00000000000000001301bfd6f566a421c7eeba103d09b312032ca065cb185de7 F2Pool
2015-07-04 03:05:59+00 000000000000000013fe26675faa8f7dccd55ce5485bb6d0373fa66345901436 F2Pool
So AntPool switched some time after 2015-07-04 02:52:18+00
and F2Pool switched some time after 2015-07-04 03:05:59+00
we also know the latest they could have switched by their next block on the 'V3 fork'
F2Pool:
2015-07-04 04:33:01+00 00000000000000000d0d362a2fbb3c3e7c8c748cc169ea90663cd18a354bc09b
AntPool: (earlier)
2015-07-04 04:09:31+00 00000000000000000b9d7006b0a893302e02becbc2faf78e79e000bb51721db0
Both pools were obviously mining on the 'v2 fork' since 2015-07-04 02:09:28+00
Yes, I stand corrected it was 4 f2pool blocks, not 5.
The main 'V2 fork was':
The first V2 in the longer fork (yes this wasn't actually the first V2 block after the change over)
2015-07-04 02:09:28+00 0000000000000000009cc829aa25b40b2cd4eb83dd498c12ad0d26d90c439d99 BTC Nuggets
Then F2Pool caused the extended fork by mining on that block:
All the below were V3 layered on top of the V2:
2015-07-04 02:23:06+00 0000000000000000155f2519d35cd5d2869900bcc5093594b27763a0315390b4 F2Pool
2015-07-04 02:49:11+00 00000000000000000cb7a20ee4e199e347ad7369936abae53a1518efa531ec61 F2Pool
2015-07-04 02:52:18+00 00000000000000000966d65e0fd87d1d5a8f154a2c955816c28e2006e381aa18 AntPool (shortly after this I contacted Bitmain)
2015-07-04 02:56:54+00 00000000000000001301bfd6f566a421c7eeba103d09b312032ca065cb185de7 F2Pool
2015-07-04 03:05:59+00 000000000000000013fe26675faa8f7dccd55ce5485bb6d0373fa66345901436 F2Pool
So AntPool switched some time after 2015-07-04 02:52:18+00
and F2Pool switched some time after 2015-07-04 03:05:59+00
we also know the latest they could have switched by their next block on the 'V3 fork'
F2Pool:
2015-07-04 04:33:01+00 00000000000000000d0d362a2fbb3c3e7c8c748cc169ea90663cd18a354bc09b
AntPool: (earlier)
2015-07-04 04:09:31+00 00000000000000000b9d7006b0a893302e02becbc2faf78e79e000bb51721db0
Both pools were obviously mining on the 'v2 fork' since 2015-07-04 02:09:28+00
Of course f2pool is subject to a withholding attack like no other pool. I could direct 4ph a day to nice hash and west hash offer to rent it out at a bargain price of 0.0095 and my partner in the attack could go to nicehash and rent the gear for 0.0098 point it all at F2pool.
My losses would be about 3 to 4 btc a day and F2pool would lose more then 40 btc a day.
Also if someone choose to they could skip nicehash and direct withholding miners right at F2pool .
They could also have the mining gear discard shares over 80 bill with reduces the winning blocks the gear makes but the gear still wold make blocks.
My point here is F2pool is inviting people to direct mining gear at them that will discard some blocks. Many people do not like the style of mining being done here. If I direct 100th here that has software discarding all 80+ bill bill shares it hurts F2pool. Not me. I would get my 1 btc a day - 4% or about 0.96btc and the merged coins brings me near 100% payout.
F2pool would simply think their luck is a bit bad. That day.
Not that I would ask Kano or Ck to build me a cgminer that discards shares. But many people could write this into a cgminer custom build.
I simply do not understand why F2pool chooses to ignore this risk and invites angry people to attack them this way by mining the way they do.
My losses would be about 3 to 4 btc a day and F2pool would lose more then 40 btc a day.
Also if someone choose to they could skip nicehash and direct withholding miners right at F2pool .
They could also have the mining gear discard shares over 80 bill with reduces the winning blocks the gear makes but the gear still wold make blocks.
My point here is F2pool is inviting people to direct mining gear at them that will discard some blocks. Many people do not like the style of mining being done here. If I direct 100th here that has software discarding all 80+ bill bill shares it hurts F2pool. Not me. I would get my 1 btc a day - 4% or about 0.96btc and the merged coins brings me near 100% payout.
F2pool would simply think their luck is a bit bad. That day.
Not that I would ask Kano or Ck to build me a cgminer that discards shares. But many people could write this into a cgminer custom build.
I simply do not understand why F2pool chooses to ignore this risk and invites angry people to attack them this way by mining the way they do.
I have already replied you in the ck thread last month. Please don't do that. We are a real pool without a single TH of bitcoin hashing power on our own. While half of AntPool's hashrate comes from their own equipments and mining farm. Let AntPool become a monopoly is no good to the Bitcoin ecology. Block withholding is steal, which is crime. We have already suffered badly from DDoS these days. Please don't do that. If you don't agree with us, simply leave. Thanks.
I like your pool. I would never do what I said can be done to you. I am trying to understand why you want to mine the way people are complaining to about.
Frankly I think you are the best pool there is for pps. Bar none. Which is why you have 20% of the network mining with you.
Of course f2pool is subject to a withholding attack like no other pool. I could direct 4ph a day to nice hash and west hash offer to rent it out at a bargain price of 0.0095 and my partner in the attack could go to nicehash and rent the gear for 0.0098 point it all at F2pool.
My losses would be about 3 to 4 btc a day and F2pool would lose more then 40 btc a day.
Also if someone choose to they could skip nicehash and direct withholding miners right at F2pool .
They could also have the mining gear discard shares over 80 bill with reduces the winning blocks the gear makes but the gear still wold make blocks.
My point here is F2pool is inviting people to direct mining gear at them that will discard some blocks. Many people do not like the style of mining being done here. If I direct 100th here that has software discarding all 80+ bill bill shares it hurts F2pool. Not me. I would get my 1 btc a day - 4% or about 0.96btc and the merged coins brings me near 100% payout.
F2pool would simply think their luck is a bit bad. That day.
Not that I would ask Kano or Ck to build me a cgminer that discards shares. But many people could write this into a cgminer custom build.
I simply do not understand why F2pool chooses to ignore this risk and invites angry people to attack them this way by mining the way they do.
My losses would be about 3 to 4 btc a day and F2pool would lose more then 40 btc a day.
Also if someone choose to they could skip nicehash and direct withholding miners right at F2pool .
They could also have the mining gear discard shares over 80 bill with reduces the winning blocks the gear makes but the gear still wold make blocks.
My point here is F2pool is inviting people to direct mining gear at them that will discard some blocks. Many people do not like the style of mining being done here. If I direct 100th here that has software discarding all 80+ bill bill shares it hurts F2pool. Not me. I would get my 1 btc a day - 4% or about 0.96btc and the merged coins brings me near 100% payout.
F2pool would simply think their luck is a bit bad. That day.
Not that I would ask Kano or Ck to build me a cgminer that discards shares. But many people could write this into a cgminer custom build.
I simply do not understand why F2pool chooses to ignore this risk and invites angry people to attack them this way by mining the way they do.
I have already replied you in the ck thread last month. Please don't do that. We are a real pool without a single TH of bitcoin hashing power on our own. While half of AntPool's hashrate comes from their own equipments and mining farm. Let AntPool become a monopoly is no good to the Bitcoin ecology. Block withholding is steal, which is crime. We have already suffered badly from DDoS these days. Please don't do that. If you don't agree with us, simply leave. Thanks.
Okay so how long will it take this to be fixed?
It has already been fixed.
But F2pool lost 125 btc of a claimed 10,000 btc reserve.
So as I read this losing 1.25% of all of F2pool's reserve is still not enough to get F2pool to stop doing this style of mining.
We all know that F2pool is the gold standard of pps mining and has more then 22% of the entire network.
Once you add in the merged coins they give they are pretty much the best pool to mine in to a miner that does not want variance.
So as I read this losing 1.25% of all of F2pool's reserve is still not enough to get F2pool to stop doing this style of mining.
We all know that F2pool is the gold standard of pps mining and has more then 22% of the entire network.
Once you add in the merged coins they give they are pretty much the best pool to mine in to a miner that does not want variance.
We did not lose 125 btc. We mined only 4 orphan blocks, which is worth 100 btc. AntPool switched to prevblkhash=363731 0000000000000000009cc829aa25b40b2cd4eb83dd498c12ad0d26d90c439d99 at 2015-07-04T02:09:32.802Z, btcchina and we followed 0.21/0.24 seconds later. We found invalid block 363732 0000000000000000155f2519d35cd5d2869900bcc5093594b27763a0315390b4 at 02:23:06.258Z, 2.54 seconds later AntPool started to mine on to our version of 363732. BTC China however ignored our block continue mining on the invalid 363731 from BTC Nuggets until 02:46:49.826Z when bitfury found the valid version of block 363731 00000000000000000c28e23330c29046f19e817fe8fe039f4044b2b2882aef53. AntPool did not switch back to the valid chain until 03:19:34.907Z. These pools started to recognize what had happened and discuss the matter on WeChat group. I was sleeping, but someone called me regarding the fork. We also managed to switch to the valid chain a few minutes later at 03:25:40.221Z.
So BTC China lost 37 minutes 17 seconds, AntPool lost 70 minutes 2 seconds, we lost 76 minutes 7 seconds. At each pool's current hashrate, AntPool lost 36.5 BTC, BTC China lost 9.7 BTC, we lost 34.7 BTC.
As long as people keep pointing hash to this pool, there is no incentive for a change. Since they've still got over 70PH/s, it doesn't seem too many people are doing much complaining about their practices.
Which is why I point my actual miners here. My friend provided his office and 1.5 kwatts at 3 cents a kwatt and I provided the miners.
Pointing them here gives us simple easy predictability of income. No other pool does it as well.
REALY?
Having in mind that net diff stays more or less same each pool operated by honest people shal give same predictable income. The only thing you need is patience....and you can be sure that 100% avarage luck is not a science fiction...
As long as people keep pointing hash to this pool, there is no incentive for a change. Since they've still got over 70PH/s, it doesn't seem too many people are doing much complaining about their practices.
Which is why I point my actual miners here. My friend provided his office and 1.5 kwatts at 3 cents a kwatt and I provided the miners.
Pointing them here gives us simple easy predictability of income. No other pool does it as well.
As long as people keep pointing hash to this pool, there is no incentive for a change. Since they've still got over 70PH/s, it doesn't seem too many people are doing much complaining about their practices.
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