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Topic: {Facts} Disadvantage of promoting scam signature campaigns that encourage spam. - page 3. (Read 1797 times)

legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1232
That's why they all came in their numbers to join the yobit signature campaign that had no minimum merit requirements but what surprised me was how they all woke up simultaneously immediately after the yobit signature campaign was announced that's just to back up the claims that 50% of accounts on the forum are just alts. I'm very sure there was no email sent by Bitcointalk to its users informing them of the yobit campaign though yobit themselves did sent email but how did this accounts that were sleeping for months get the information if they're not alt accounts of active members of the forum?. That email sent by yobit couldn't have reached all of them. Maybe it's time theymos wipe all inactive accounts.
And now they are gone again and back to sleep, I think those who had joined the yobit signature campaign must observe their account. At the time I had encountered so many names of users that I'd never regularly seen here in the forum and I think they are completely alt account.

Campaign Manager rules of requirements in posting are very important to participants to avoid or lessen spamming. 20 post per day is quite too much and probably make a cause of spam to the greedy alt users who want to gain profit.
One thing that I like in having rules of posting like Hhampuz, he let us post everywhere on this forum to have exposure so there's no reason you can spam in the mega thread. I hope all of them.
member
Activity: 672
Merit: 29
They are so many disadvantages for promoting signature campaigns that encourages spamming and these disadvantages are felt by both the culprit and the forum.
But  users are so selfish they just want to gain rather than the welfare of the forum
legendary
Activity: 2408
Merit: 4282
eXch.cx - Automatic crypto Swap Exchange.
Also, these old, high-ranked accounts, are pretty much useless. Good (BTC) campaign managers always do due diligence before accepting someone to their signature campaigns.

That's why they all came in their numbers to join the yobit signature campaign that had no minimum merit requirements but what surprised me was how they all woke up simultaneously immediately after the yobit signature campaign was announced that's just to back up the claims that 50% of accounts on the forum are just alts. I'm very sure there was no email sent by Bitcointalk to its users informing them of the yobit campaign though yobit themselves did sent email but how did this accounts that were sleeping for months get the information if they're not alt accounts of active members of the forum?. That email sent by yobit couldn't have reached all of them. Maybe it's time theymos wipe all inactive accounts.
full member
Activity: 756
Merit: 231
129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.

To those who voiced out their opinion during the days of Yobit.net, have done a great job in savaging the rapid spread of spam post between the participants on the forum. The sanctions|penalties are equally fair; for these spam Bees, who took to the street of spam to get paid.

Can now see the full picture of what Mr. BrainBose was saying on this thread. When the right time come for me to join the good wagon of campaign, i will definitely be more careful as what happen to Yobit.Net participant never happen to me likewise.
legendary
Activity: 2730
Merit: 7065
I think a lot of people don't realize what signature campaigns actually are, they are called "signature campaigns" to mask their real purpose. The point is to advertise their service, the advertisers give these insane incentives because they don't care about if their people get banned,
It is not the job of the campaigns to make sure that the members promoting them don't get banned. It is the members of this forum who need to pay attention what they do with their accounts and what kind of posting habit they will have. The signature campaigns together will the campaign managers are responsible to hire those they think are suitable for the task, everything that happens after that is out of their control.
copper member
Activity: 2324
Merit: 2142
Slots Enthusiast & Expert
That's very true, i noticed that too but what are the steps the administration of the forum are putting in place to prevent these Original zombies, as you called them from taking advantage of the signature system to spam the forum.
Don't lose faith for this forum. We want the same thing, i.e., to clean this forum from spammers/bots/zombies. The administrator has taken actions for this problem, here:

129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.

Also, these old, high-ranked accounts, are pretty much useless. Good (BTC) campaign managers always do due diligence before accepting someone to their signature campaigns.
full member
Activity: 756
Merit: 231
Did hope for someday i will rank up like others on this forum, permit me to always read-up your post here on forum, to get more flavor from your post.

Have a kick up the arse from me.

Kudos for the kicked-up arse Grin . You have just encourage me to intensify effort on my post. This will gear me to do more helpful and constructive post for the betterment of others who are here to learn. Have just added you to my watch-list of Legendary Pioneers to follow, and equally learn from.

The signature ban came at the right time before these Zombies spread their virus all-over the forum. Commend the administrators for the action taken against spamming Bees with questionable signature campaign.
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 3015
Welt Am Draht
Did hope for someday i will rank up like others on this forum, permit me to always read-up your post here on forum, to get more flavor from your post.

Have a kick up the arse from me.
full member
Activity: 756
Merit: 231
Will they be pay with such post? If yes, Yobit has done something terrible. Now i see the reason why they are like that: Original Zombies.

I think the merit requirements to rank up are too high but they have made a big difference and if you've earned a senior rank with merit you will be welcome in the best campaigns.

A very big thank you for the enlightenment my truly Legendary Member.

Sometime i do regret why was i late to this forum, now that things are very difficult for newcomers. Ranking up is more difficult compare to these days where the forum was young. Although this has be the reason why many of us with lower rank are doing great even with the current system implementation of the merit.


Did hope for someday i will rank up like others on this forum, permit me to always read-up your post here on forum, to get more flavor from your post.
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 3015
Welt Am Draht
Will they be pay with such post? If yes, Yobit has done something terrible. Now i see the reason why they are like that: Original Zombies.

Nope.

The Yobit campaign has just been banned and that was really the only option for these piece of shit accounts.

Almost all of the other ones are managed sensibly and one word posters with zero merit won't stand a chance of getting into any of them. It won't matter if they're legendary. They're still demonstrably crap.

There used to be semi automated campaigns like the Bitmixer.io one which didn't review posts or posters, you just signed up and started. That was shut down and forced to restart with a proper manager.

I think the merit requirements to rank up are too high but they have made a big difference and if you've earned a senior rank with merit you will be welcome in the best campaigns.
full member
Activity: 756
Merit: 231
Thanks for the advice, but this time around, the senior members joining this yobit campaign needs this advice more.

They're the original zombies. Back in the day you could rank up to senior and beyond just by posting 'hi' a few times a month for a few months. When something like that campaign emerged so did all of those dormant accounts.

Some people created hundreds of them.

Am very sorry to say this: very handful of your type are worth emulating on the forum, i wonder how the system was then, that make many of these accounts attained these status: like Legendary, Hero, Sr. Member and Full Member. So many of these accounts are alts and the worst part is, they are one liner posters. Will they be pay with such post? If yes, Yobit has done something terrible. Now i see the reason why they are like that: Original Zombies.
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 3015
Welt Am Draht
Thanks for the advice, but this time around, the senior members joining this yobit campaign needs this advice more.

They're the original zombies. Back in the day you could rank up to senior and beyond just by posting 'hi' a few times a month for a few months. When something like that campaign emerged so did all of those dormant accounts.

Some people created hundreds of them.
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 3015
Welt Am Draht
Some campaigns eg. want you to write postings in the gambling section, if you arent into gambling at all how could you post quality content in this subforum at all?

You should demonstrate some self awareness and not join. There's absolutely no way I could face being in campaign like that. First off I think gambling is worthless and evil and I'd rather it buggered off forever, but mainly attempting to sound interested in it on here would be like pulling teeth. It would take me three hours of wracking my brain to come up with one sentence and then I'd have a stroke.
copper member
Activity: 2324
Merit: 2142
Slots Enthusiast & Expert
Let's assume that Y*bit is not a scam exchange, the sigcamp itself is so strange. Twenty posts per day are just impossible for manual work that involves thinking. Just saying... By the way, I wonder how long it will last before these zombie accounts go back to sleep again.

For newbies: It's just not worth to become one of the zombies. Once you get infected, it almost incurable.
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 6089
bitcoindata.science
 Participating in signature campaigns demands a lot of free time to make a good job.
companies want their ads  to be shown as much as possible in the forum. The problem is that is encourages spam, as users are forced to post the most they can...
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1094
1. SC's aka signature campaigns make you feel greedy but if you just want to earn some money by doing something you always do, you can't turn into a spammer. Spammers spam even forums where they don't earn to post.

2. Merit is a personal choice of members and is not restricted to just high rank members. If any member finds your post worthy, they will merit it irrespective of the sig you carry. Not all members ignore users of a sig campaign.

3. If you are a spammer, you would be blacklisted even if you aren't a part of any campaign.

4. Scammers have no reputation while people don't give so much importance to spammers. If you are honest and don't promote a scam campaign, nothing can harm your reputation.

5. That's again dependent on if you spam and has nothing to do with any particular campaign.

6. This point doesn't even make sense  Roll Eyes
sr. member
Activity: 980
Merit: 294
Based on above: my advince to campaign managers: it would be better to pay a $1000 to 10 influential account instead of paying that amount to 100 spammy accounts.
Perhaps that works the other way around. Some campaign doesn't care if they pay reputable and influential accounts as it will be nothing from 100 spam accounts. Imagine your signature will be expose in all boards of forum thus bad publicity is still publicity anyway.

While some don't care what will be the impression to them and either feels like they weren't spammer since they post with a 5 minute interval.🤦
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 4002
It is shameful for you to contribute to ads of a service considered scam or by a lot of dark activities. Would you be happy to contribute to scamming others? I do not think so.

I think that the main purpose of the signature campaigns is to stop at the post and thus increase the desire to know what is participating in the signature, especially that such people do not publish anything unknown in their signature.

Based on above: my advince to campaign managers: it would be better to pay a $1000 to 10 influential account instead of paying that amount to 100 spammy accounts.
hero member
Activity: 2366
Merit: 838
[6]: Reduces potential improvements on crypto knowledge: I meant by brainless spamming the forum, spammers will have less (or without) exposures to comprehensive boards, child boards, topics, posts, that in turn will result in decreasing chances to be exposed with knowledgeable things in the forum. Then, maybe spammers will spend years to spam in the forum without any improvements on their knowledge about crypto things.
legendary
Activity: 2408
Merit: 4282
eXch.cx - Automatic crypto Swap Exchange.
If you can get paid for eg 60 posts/week you will try to write them forcing you to post at topics you cant contribute well or topics you arent familiar with. Some campaigns eg. want you to write postings in the gambling section, if you arent into gambling at all how could you post quality content in this subforum at all?

When ever I write a post I always try to touch every angle. I have taken care of that in my previous thread titled; Factors to consider before joining a paid signature campaigns. if you know you can't make up to the required post count or the specific board the campaign manager requires post counts from, you're not familiar with the board there's no need applying for that campaign because majority of the time you might just end up spamming your way to your post goal. That's why majority of well known quality campaign pays per post but they do have a post limit weekly to avoid spamming.
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