Topic: {Facts} Disadvantage of promoting scam signature campaigns that encourage spam. - page 4. (Read 1797 times)

Thats a rather difficult topic because signature campaigns in general, especially those which pay per posting, want you to spam the forums. Signatures are their advertisment, the more its seen the better a token/tool/project/... gets recognized.

If you can get paid for eg 60 posts/week you will try to write them forcing you to post at topics you cant contribute well or topics you arent familiar with. Some campaigns eg. want you to write postings in the gambling section, if you arent into gambling at all how could you post quality content in this subforum at all?

Very good points, I hope the participants in spammy campaigns will read your post (but I doubt it).

The biggest problem of such signature campaigns is that people are forced to make a high number of posts per week / per day to get the amounts in BTC compared to campaigns where the posts per week are limited to 40 - 60 posts per week. And whenever someone is forced to make comments that he won't make normally, the outcome is not useful at all. If they are forced to make their number of posts per day they'll make replies about things they are possibly not experienced in. The post quality will go down drastically and the posts won't help anyone, just adding another post to the topic. Those replies are not only not helpful, they are ruining the discussion and causing spam-megathreads.
Same like if someone tries to participate in a gambling signature campaign and as requirement they need to make posts in Gambling but they normally don't comment there. The replies won't be very useful.

I don't want to generalize everyone in the YoBit signature campaign as a spammer, there are also a few good contributors and even the best posters on the forum can make more than 100 posts per week without producing useless spam as a result. But the overall impression is like CryptopreneurBrainboss explained very well in his OP, it won't work for most members because they try to earn as much as possible.

In addition, such campaigns tend to ruin the posting history. A good posting history is always mixed with longer or shorter posts. No need to write always essays if you can say your content only in a few words. But for my experience the worst posters are those where the post lenght is always the same (a few lines) and that's a pattern that most spam posters have in common.

I presume this is largely inspired by Yobit's resurrection. Thing is though apart from a few exceptions none of its participants would stand a hope in hell of getting into any other campaign. They've managed to prove that within a couple of days.

They're going to hang themselves. I'm sure you can take it on without being hopeless but you'll need to be conscious of a lot of people watching you closely.

Truth be told, campaigns that encourage spamming and do not emphasis quality of posts usually end up costing the participant.
I have seen certain members here join such campaigns and have never earned even a single merit for months just because the campaign Managers of such campaigns don't care about the post quality of participants. They Just encourage shit posting and one liners.

I think a lot of people don't realize what signature campaigns actually are, they are called "signature campaigns" to mask their real purpose. The point is to advertise their service, the advertisers give these insane incentives because they don't care about if their people get banned, all they want is their site spammed everywhere. And why do they advertise on BitcoinTalk? Because people here will post like crazy for cents on the dollar, it's super worth it to them. They get super cheap advertising on the biggest bitcoin forum there is. It's important to remember that we set the standard we are held at, you set your own worth. If you really think your content is worth a few cents on the dollar, then so be it. But I think that most people are better than that, take the initiative of your own worth and display whatever the hell you want in your signature. Don't let a greedy corporation own it. I think signature space should be your own, hell put a thing for donations in it, at least that way you can get acknowledged for the content you make. Stop advertising gambling sites most of all, people lose their livelihood over that kind of stuff, don't try to rationalize it. Advertising "investing" is the same thing, people don't understand what they are doing and they think it's fine because the person wearing the signature is reputable. I usually don't do long rants like this but I feel like I needed to say something about this whole situation.

There is high chances for these signature campaign to actually ruin a good poster into a spamming type, this has been quite unfortunate when you see a very high rank member posting some one liner just to get paid from the campaign, this also imply to lower rank members. Basically, many account on the forum, has just be resurrected from a long inactive period just to participant on some ongoing signature campaigns. Participating on these campaigns doesn't make it a crime but lets put forth our credibility rather than ruining our reputation on the forum.  

On this, i'm not vividly sure becasue they all have Merit cycle which rotate like the wheel of a car. They go on and on to merit themselves just becasue they are wearing the same signature campaign. Some will further trade their Merit with their alts to get the chances to join the campaign, just saw a Legendary account merited some Newbies and high rank members with 10 Merits, which purpose are yet to be know. They will always get Merited no matter what.

Direct, after these campaigns have ended, maybe some managers on the forum will have the list of these campaigners but some won't border about them becasue they benefited in one way or the other.

If these signature campaigns never succeed, then their reputation will be destroy without a second thought from reputable members on the forum.

Yes, only if they stand at the edge and bite, there's surely a possibility of account ban, but till then let cross our fingers across and watch this river flowing downward, but for upwards BAN hammer will be the last resort.
 
Thanks for your concern.  

As usual, I seize the opportunities (when I see one) to pass my message across and so far I have gotten positive feedbacks from reputed and regular users contributing to my thread, translations of those thread and highlighting of these threads through merits.
Having written on Factors to consider before joining a paid signature campaigns. and Benefits of promoting a quality paid signature campaign and as a result of the recent talks about the yobit signature campaign, I thought it'll be idea to combine all the possible disadvantagea of promoting signature campaigns that encourages spamming, maybe with this thread, we can save few members through reconsidering their decision of joining those campaigns after reading these disadvantages.
Below are some disadvantage;

---

---

[1]: Turns you into a spammer: Irrespective of what your posting habit were before you engage in a signature campaign that requires very high number of post count to get a decent payout, it increase your chances of turning into a spammer. 8 out of every 10 participants in these type of campaign are usually spammers and as the saying goes, "you turn into those you associate yourself with". As a result of trying to earn as much as your counterparts (spammers) are earning you turn into one of them, thereby spamming the forum just to earn as much as them.

[2]: Reduces your chances of getting merited: If one of your goals on forum is to receive enough merits from your quality posts to make you eligible to rank up then you have to stay far away from these signature that encourages spamming, as majority of reputed forum members, merit sources and other meriters sees participants of those campaign as spammers even though you're not a spammer yourself. some members even go further as putting those users wearing that particular signature on ignore which can ruin your chances of receiving merits from that users as they can't view (read) your post. As a result of not encouraging spammers some users don't merit users spamming the forum with those signatures. The best advice will be to stay away from those campaign and concentrate on contribution positively through your post to the forum as you wait for more quality campaigns to promote.

[3]: Gets you blacklisted by most reputed managers: Just like the ignore list created by most reputed users on the forum, some campaign managers have what they called "signature ban list"  aka blacklist they consult to avoid accepting spammers into their current or future campaigns they'll be managing. The most popular for now is the DarkList. Note most managers don't have this list publicize on the forum but they do have some members they have recognized as spammers due to one reason or the other and won't accept them into the campaign they're associate with. One of those reasons could be because of your previous campaign (which encourages spamming).

[4]: Ruin your reputation on forum: This disadvantage affects users who're interested in building a reputation for themselves on forum or already have a reputation. Joining a signature campaign can be seen as a form of endorsing that campaign and most time a user is viewed from the type of campaign he/she associate themselves with. which means, associating yourself with a spam promoting campaign will portary you as a spammer or a user with less interest of the forum at hand, as a result ruin your reputation on the forum.

[5]: Increase the possibility of getting banned: Promoting a signature campaign that encourages spamming which leads to spamming the forum most time, is an easy tickets to getting banned although plagiarism is the number one ticket. Spammers aren't welcome in the forum as the forum itself is trying her best in eliminating spam by implementing different system to combat spamming, from providing an option to report spammers to moderators to implementing the merit system and more features to come in future like the total removal of signature campaign from the forum. The forum have zero tolerance to spammers and repeated spamming as a result of meeting the required weekly/daily Post  could result in getting banned.

[6]: Reduces potential improvements on crypto knowledge: I believe what OP is trying to say is, joining a signature campaign that encourages spamming which might turn you into a spammer will decrease your chances of learning somethings new or adding to your existing knowledge of cryptocurrency from the forum as your number one priority will now be, how to spam to earn instead of concentrating on learning from the forum.
Credit

---

In as much as I write about signature campaign and I'm wearing one that doesn't mean I see forum as a place for only signature campaign or advertisment (you shouldn't too) but these privilege are highly been abuse resulting to spam and a good way to combat this, is but educating users that's what I see my threads as.

The disadvantage of wearing a signature that promotes spamming isn't limited to 5 points, I can go on and on but as usual to encourage interactive contributions from other users I leave room for more contributions to this thread.