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Quote from: degen1 on August 26, 2019, 06:16:51 PM

Quote from: FairlaySupport on August 23, 2019, 06:59:54 PM

Quote from: degen1 on August 23, 2019, 04:09:48 AM

Quote from: FairlaySupport on August 23, 2019, 01:54:10 AM

Yes we reserve the right to freeze accounts and establish the identity if we supsect a user of having committed a crime or any other foribdden activity outlined in our Terms.
Most likely you belong to the 99.9% of users who are not affected by this.

Yes you are right, I did not commit a crime nor violated anything in your terms, and if you think that I did you guys should have told me what and presented me evidence.

I will revive the scam accusation post as per suggestions here, I had a more lively post in the gambling section which is why I did not continue with the scam post.

For the record: To get access to the information you request please contact a local law enforcement officer. We will share all information we have with them and you will be able to put forward your claim without any further delay.

This is a cop out response and you guys know it. You have been flexing and figuring out ways to make it impossible for me to get my money back. I consulted a local law enforcement officer and they said that they had no ability to do what you guys are asking and doubted that any other enforcement officer would be able to fulfill your request. This was unsurprising and logically and legally makes sense - and you guys know that it's not possible.

You have supplied no reasoning, and it's obvious to me that no legal claim is tying you or forcing you to hold my money b/c you've been disclosing my information when it should be sealed by your own terms and conditions but also by a legal claim if it existed.

Please let us know which law enforcement officer you contacted. We will be in touch with them.

degen1

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Quote from: FairlaySupport on August 23, 2019, 06:59:54 PM

Quote from: degen1 on August 23, 2019, 04:09:48 AM

Quote from: FairlaySupport on August 23, 2019, 01:54:10 AM

Yes we reserve the right to freeze accounts and establish the identity if we supsect a user of having committed a crime or any other foribdden activity outlined in our Terms.
Most likely you belong to the 99.9% of users who are not affected by this.

Yes you are right, I did not commit a crime nor violated anything in your terms, and if you think that I did you guys should have told me what and presented me evidence.

I will revive the scam accusation post as per suggestions here, I had a more lively post in the gambling section which is why I did not continue with the scam post.

For the record: To get access to the information you request please contact a local law enforcement officer. We will share all information we have with them and you will be able to put forward your claim without any further delay.

This is a cop out response and you guys know it. You have been flexing and figuring out ways to make it impossible for me to get my money back. I consulted a local law enforcement officer and they said that they had no ability to do what you guys are asking and doubted that any other enforcement officer would be able to fulfill your request. This was unsurprising and logically and legally makes sense - and you guys know that it's not possible.

You have supplied no reasoning, and it's obvious to me that no legal claim is tying you or forcing you to hold my money b/c you've been disclosing my information when it should be sealed by your own terms and conditions but also by a legal claim if it existed.

DT3

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I've been using fairlay for a couple of years now and have had no issues getting paid or them correcting mistakes on their end. I think i can say in most cases they have acted in good faith to resolve problems that come up.

Having said that this situation with dgen is very concerning and fairlay needs to come out with some reasonable explanation of why and how they decide to confiscate a players funds. Fairlays response that we can seize players funds at any time we want is really troubling and I'm shocked players are ok with it. Further dgen is suggesting they are sharing players information with 3rd parties without telling him why his funds are being confiscated, this is really terrible if true.

I myself will be minimizing my volume there until they come out with a statement explaining why they are doing what their doing.

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Quote from: degen1 on August 23, 2019, 04:09:48 AM

Quote from: FairlaySupport on August 23, 2019, 01:54:10 AM

Yes we reserve the right to freeze accounts and establish the identity if we supsect a user of having committed a crime or any other foribdden activity outlined in our Terms.
Most likely you belong to the 99.9% of users who are not affected by this.

Yes you are right, I did not commit a crime nor violated anything in your terms, and if you think that I did you guys should have told me what and presented me evidence.

I will revive the scam accusation post as per suggestions here, I had a more lively post in the gambling section which is why I did not continue with the scam post.

For the record: To get access to the information you request please contact a local law enforcement officer. We will share all information we have with them and you will be able to put forward your claim without any further delay.

linan2332

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Quote from: degen1 on August 22, 2019, 07:48:54 PM

You should just be careful using this site as they disclose your information to third parties apparently, and at any point there is a risk that your funds may be seized for an "allegation" that you won't be told any details about. As a result you should be careful about what information and data you are giving the company if that is of any importance to you and I would question putting any major funds into the site. If you are just making small time predictions you should be fine.

Feel free to look at my other posts for details.

Yes Degen1, I have read the thread you involve in(both on SBR and bitcointalk). I definitely don't agree with some of the actions carry out by fairlay. Hopefully at the end all the info will be publicly released by all parties.

degen1

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Quote from: FairlaySupport on August 23, 2019, 01:54:10 AM

Yes we reserve the right to freeze accounts and establish the identity if we supsect a user of having committed a crime or any other foribdden activity outlined in our Terms.
Most likely you belong to the 99.9% of users who are not affected by this.

Yes you are right, I did not commit a crime nor violated anything in your terms, and if you think that I did you guys should have told me what and presented me evidence.

I will revive the scam accusation post as per suggestions here, I had a more lively post in the gambling section which is why I did not continue with the scam post.

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Quote from: SyGambler on August 22, 2019, 08:52:17 PM

Quote from: degen1 on August 22, 2019, 07:48:54 PM

You should just be careful using this site as they disclose your information to third parties apparently, and at any point there is a risk that your funds may be seized for an "allegation" that you won't be told any details about. As a result you should be careful about what information and data you are giving the company if that is of any importance to you and I would question putting any major funds into the site. If you are just making small time predictions you should be fine.

Feel free to look at my other posts for details.

I wish that you continued updating the thread in the scam accusation section , you just created it and abandoned
went to SBR and checked the updates , I really don't know what to say cause this is really bad

the story still completely vague tho and looking at the current info Fairlay guys are totally the ones to blame
I'm sure they will pay you at some point but it looks like they will take ages

keep updating the thread , DTs should realize that your scam accusation is no joke

Agree,,, keep your accusations in one thread. Update it as often as you can (but not to spam) and keep all your evidence posted so that the public can view for themselves and determine if this is really the case that happened or not.

Fairlay seems to respond that they can freeze the account if they broke terms I agree any casino has the right to do this. But they should communicate everything clearly and block the account, and refund the deposits that is all.

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Yes we reserve the right to freeze accounts and establish the identity if we supsect a user of having committed a crime or any other foribdden activity outlined in our Terms.
Most likely you belong to the 99.9% of users who are not affected by this.

SyGambler

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guess who's back

Quote from: degen1 on August 22, 2019, 07:48:54 PM

You should just be careful using this site as they disclose your information to third parties apparently, and at any point there is a risk that your funds may be seized for an "allegation" that you won't be told any details about. As a result you should be careful about what information and data you are giving the company if that is of any importance to you and I would question putting any major funds into the site. If you are just making small time predictions you should be fine.

Feel free to look at my other posts for details.

I wish that you continued updating the thread in the scam accusation section , you just created it and abandoned
went to SBR and checked the updates , I really don't know what to say cause this is really bad

the story still completely vague tho and looking at the current info Fairlay guys are totally the ones to blame
I'm sure they will pay you at some point but it looks like they will take ages

keep updating the thread , DTs should realize that your scam accusation is no joke

degen1

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You should just be careful using this site as they disclose your information to third parties apparently, and at any point there is a risk that your funds may be seized for an "allegation" that you won't be told any details about. As a result you should be careful about what information and data you are giving the company if that is of any importance to you and I would question putting any major funds into the site. If you are just making small time predictions you should be fine.

Feel free to look at my other posts for details.

linan2332

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Just got a pretty exciting announcement from troll-box.

Just a quick heads-up. In the following weeks we enroll an update to our infrastructure. If successful live markets will update much much faster resulting in a better betting experience. If you intend to offer odds for live markets contact us to learn more.

Perfect for the live market project I am working

linan2332

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Ya Danshan11 you are right. Got an official response from fairlay

You may set the accounts that are allowed to settle a market on it's creation. Anyway if you set any other settler than Fairlay, the market won't be listed on the website as this would be a security risk. Contact us if you intend to become a professional market maker here. In all other cases let Ognjen settle your markets....

So looks like all I need to worry about is adjusting the orders and creating market with the right time for now...Appreciate all the help guys

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Quote from: linan2332 on August 19, 2019, 03:06:02 PM

Is there some kind of rules regarding changing market date and settling market?

I first try to settle the market right away but got an error "XError: Settling Date not reached".
I figure is probably because the closing date and settle date is in the future so I try to change the market date with the API.
I tried with different dates ahead/behind of current time but all of them give me this error "XError: You are not allowed to do that"
Am I missing something here?

Thanks

you dont need to settle a bad market just remove unmatched orders and let it die by itself. you also can contact support chat on fairlay and ask them to update the settle date if that is what you need. Easiest thing to do is just recreate the market again with updated dates add any unmatched orders and you should be good to go. Users settling markets its better to let fairlay settle them. are we talking sports or some "news" type stuff?

degen1

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FYI, read about how Fairlay is withholding my money against my consent right now.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fairlay-withholding-my-btc-for-currently-no-real-explanation-5173428

linan2332

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So I think it might be because of the following setting for my API user. Is there a way to grant API user access? I cant find anything in API and UI setting page.

"0":{
"CanSettleMarkets":false,
"CanChangeTime":false,
"CanDoAdminStuff":false,
"CanDoSpecialRequests":false,

linan2332

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Is there some kind of rules regarding changing market date and settling market?

I first try to settle the market right away but got an error "XError: Settling Date not reached".
I figure is probably because the closing date and settle date is in the future so I try to change the market date with the API.
I tried with different dates ahead/behind of current time but all of them give me this error "XError: You are not allowed to do that"
Am I missing something here?

Thanks

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Quote from: linan2332 on August 18, 2019, 11:16:13 PM

Sorry a few more questions,

1) Is live market basically the same as regular market except its market status is set to INPLAY?

2) I have created some dummy market for experimenting. I don't see any API to remove market, I guess settling is the only way to remove the market?

3) I saw you guys have a discord channel but looks like its locked? Is that still being used?

Thanks

No problem at all.

yes
yes, putting the Closing and settling Time to a close date is the option to remove markets.
it's not used anymore

linan2332

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Sorry a few more questions,

1) Is live market basically the same as regular market except its market status is set to INPLAY?

2) I have created some dummy market for experimenting. I don't see any API to remove market, I guess settling is the only way to remove the market?

3) I saw you guys have a discord channel but looks like its locked? Is that still being used?

Thanks

linan2332

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Ya that make sense. I imagine they have a script that has some kind of logic on when an order is matched, it trigger a check to query pinnacle's odds and if it didn't match, cancelled the matched order

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Quote from: linan2332 on August 18, 2019, 12:51:29 PM

I guess the feature (cancel matched order within x sec) is more gear towards live-market market maker?
For a typical market we can just contact admin and have them void the match order if it were too late.
Thanks for answering all the questions

I think it's also used to quickly ping the odds source that you're using (for example if you're hedging on Pinnacle) and make sure that their odds haven't changed when someone places the bet so that you're not accidentally taking a bet on stale odds.

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