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Topic: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds - page 18. (Read 135649 times)

newbie
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Thank you for answering SyGambler! Smiley

That does make a lot of sense! I also heard that for fairlay, once you place your bet there is a 60 sec time frame for the other side to choose whether he wants to accept the bet or not? Is that true?

No, but they do have about what appears to be ~500 ms to decide.  Also, sometimes the MMs will play games and not fill your whole order even though the market doesn't move and no else got filled ahead of you.  I.e., Fairlay does not force its MMs to accept a full order or to do so instantaneously, even is they are displaying sufficient size.
legendary
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Thank you for answering SyGambler! Smiley

That does make a lot of sense! I also heard that for fairlay, once you place your bet there is a 60 sec time frame for the other side to choose whether he wants to accept the bet or not? Is that true?

that never happened with me actually and it shouldn't happen since this is not how exchanges work
the site shouldn't be asking the order makers since these makers already chose the price of their orders and they are just waiting for someone to match them

may I know where you got that info from ?
newbie
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Thank you for answering SyGambler! Smiley

That does make a lot of sense! I also heard that for fairlay, once you place your bet there is a 60 sec time frame for the other side to choose whether he wants to accept the bet or not? Is that true?
legendary
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Question 1 - So looks like the odds for TNC to be reach grand final is 8.3 which make sense. but the odds against TNC to reach final is 19.867?(thats just too good to be true)


odds to reach the final is 8.3 correct , but odds against it is 1.053 ( you will find out once you click the red button then the odds will appear in the betting box )
this is called laying , in other words you are taking the opposite bet for someone who wants to get paid 19.867 in case they reach the final
you don't really need to fully understand since as I said you will see the real odds in the betting box once you click the red buttong

Question 2 - I see there is ODDS and OFFERED ODDS, is ODDS the actual odds for the bet?(that would make sense but if that is the case what is OFFERE ODDS for?)

Odds is the real odds you will be getting , same as I explained before
when you lay that specific bet odds is 1.053 ( real odds ) and prefered odds is 19.867 ( you can assume it as the odds for the other guys who is opposing your bet )

Question 3 - I assume liability is the max amount you can bet?

yep when you lay the bet , somehow it doesn't always work for me though so in my experience it's not perfect estimation
it's usually showing when you double click on the selection

Question 4 - What is the different between taker, market/taker, market maker?
My understanding is taker basically just take the available orders. Market/taker would take the available orders and create additional order if it can fulfill the volume you want. Market maker would create order for both side and basically try to profit from the margin.


this section makes you able to put the odds that you want , for example you don't like X8.3 for that team to reach the final and you want X10.00 instead
you simply use that section and create an order , this will let others know that you want X10.00 instead and if someone want to take the opposite of your bet then he will match it
this way you get better odds , but as I stated another player needs to take the other side of the bet so most of the times it will just vanish
newbie
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Sorry still trying to learn how to use fairlay and have some really noob questions.

I think I still have the mindset of using a sportsbook. Some of the stuff just does not make sense to me, for example this market

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Question 1 - So looks like the odds for TNC to be reach grand final is 8.3 which make sense. but the odds against TNC to reach final is 19.867?(thats just too good to be true)

Question 2 - I see there is ODDS and OFFERED ODDS, is ODDS the actual odds for the bet?(that would make sense but if that is the case what is OFFERE ODDS for?)

Question 3 - I assume liability is the max amount you can bet?

Question 4 - What is the different between taker, market/taker, market maker?
My understanding is taker basically just take the available orders. Market/taker would take the available orders and create additional order if it can fulfill the volume you want. Market maker would create order for both side and basically try to profit from the margin.

Sorry if any of the these questions is dumb.

newbie
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Nvm, got a direct answer from one of the admin. They do accept US player but some state might be not allowed.
newbie
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Thank for the reply! One more question, does fairplay accept USA player?(specifically CA). In case I need to do KYC and then unable to withdraw because I am from US
sr. member
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Is there any active fairlay communities?(reddit, discord etc) Joined their discord but the last message is a year ago. Cant seems to find any communities, would love to know anyone that is using fairlay as well.
The trollbox is what you are looking for.  
Sportsbookreview  is probably the forum with the highest post activity around Fairlay.
newbie
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Is there any active fairlay communities?(reddit, discord etc) Joined their discord but the last message is a year ago. Cant seems to find any communities, would love to know anyone that is using fairlay as well.
legendary
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You could try reaching out through their support's email. This was in their FAQs.

thanks but someone told me that the email doesn't work except the VIP email where you have to send them 5 mbtc but will try the normal one now

I had a voided bet once on fairlay and it was pending for about few hours before it got graded.

it's been 30 hours for now but the match was supposed to be played tomorrow so probably they haven't checked that it was cancelled
legendary
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also any idea how to contact fairlay if the support chat isn't working ? I have a big order on a tennis match and it should be a void since the match was cancelled but Fairlay is still having it pending so I need a way to reach them in order to grade it
You could try reaching out through their support's email. This was in their FAQs.

I had a voided bet once on fairlay and it was pending for about few hours before it got graded.

How to contact Fairlay and how do I reach customer support?

- Use [email protected] to contact our head of support directly.

- VIPs may contact [email protected] support free of charge at any time and receive support directly from the Fairlay management. All VIPs have been contacted and were addressed as VIP.

In case of an emergency or if you need an immediate response, please send at least 5mBTC to the Bitcoin address 17zWbgemRwx4RyrXxSBZEEnvRJLt3zt1ft and direct your request to [email protected]. There is no need for a high fee, unconfirmed transactions work as well. If none will answer you within 60 minutes, we will send the bitcoins back to the sender address.
legendary
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Same here. Looks that something broke on their end.

that sucks , I've tried contacting them on twitter but it seems they never check twitter and all the tweets about the big wins are made with a bot
guess I can't do anything except waiting for trollbox to get fixed or they somehow realize that the match was cancelled and refund the bet
copper member
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anybody else not able to open the trollbox/support chat ?? all I'm getting is empty box without being able to write or read anything
Same here. Looks that something broke on their end.
legendary
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anybody else not able to open the trollbox/support chat ?? all I'm getting is empty box without being able to write or read anything

also any idea how to contact fairlay if the support chat isn't working ? I have a big order on a tennis match and it should be a void since the match was cancelled but Fairlay is still having it pending so I need a way to reach them in order to grade it
member
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It looks like you have doubled the cost of Withdrawals? It now costs like over $6 for a Priority Withdrawal?! .80 mBTC

That's very high isn't it?
sr. member
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We changed one of our policies. From now on we reserve the right to refuse cancellations of late matches if the request comes from the taker of the bet.  More details here:

https://fairlay.com/faq/#how-do-i-place-a-prediction
member
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Site is down. Is that the maintenance? How long will it be down? I need to get a wager in soon. Is there an alternate site? Mobile site? Thanks!

Site is live for me, what are you seeing? Sounds stupid but have you cleared cookies & cache & try again?

It's back up now, thanks. They did post that they were going to be doing some maintenance today, so that might have been it.
legendary
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Site is down. Is that the maintenance? How long will it be down? I need to get a wager in soon. Is there an alternate site? Mobile site? Thanks!

Site is live for me, what are you seeing? Sounds stupid but have you cleared cookies & cache & try again?
member
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Site is down. Is that the maintenance? How long will it be down? I need to get a wager in soon. Is there an alternate site? Mobile site? Thanks!
member
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I'm still being charged a commission even though I changed my setting on the "On Hold" balance.

Please refund my most recent commissions.

It is still holding more than just my last largest wager AND it is charging me a commission!
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