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Quote from: Maestro75 on September 19, 2021, 01:05:50 PM

My conclusion is that winning at any gambling is fate and nothing else. I do not want to see losing in casinos as lack of self control.

This must be a complete different perspective of how gamblers and gambling houses are making money or losing money in the end. Anyone must need to accept this point because any money is not being printed out of gambling activities but it is being paid from one to another as a reward of gambling as one must be losing whereas another one is winning.

When gambling houses are designed for making gamblers to lose then I need to accept that winning from gambling must be a fate because that must be a rare thing to happen and no one could experience all the times. But losing must be more frequently event in gambling and there will be no meaning of calling it a fate driven one.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 11, 2021, 10:14:20 AM

Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.

Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.

What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side. End of the day used to pacify thyself terming it as our fate and move on. Hope you guys don't do this mistake. Cry

I think it is everybody's fate to loss in gambling. If people do not loss how will the casinos make money? The casino is planned in a way to create room for losers than they have for winners. Some casinos have more deceits than others and will not like to release payment to winners without attaching rules that were not there before. Some accuse players of trying to cheat the house and then cease their winnings. My conclusion is that winning at any gambling is fate and nothing else. I do not want to see losing in casinos as lack of self control.

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Chaos is a very destructive force. And what could be more chaotic than gambling (like roulette)?

I am very afraid of losing control of my life. For me, this is the worst thing that can happen to me. Therefore, I spend a lot of time on planning and budgeting.

I have the corresponding applications installed on my laptop and smartphone. This also applies to gambling. Loss limits should be set very clearly. It is also necessary to very clearly limit the time that you are willing to spend on gambling.

You must be equally indifferent to potential win or loss.

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You can't really expect fate and lack of control be one and the same. Fate has many roads but you get to pick which one of those roads you go down. As for me, gambling can be fun and if you make a winning, yay for you. And if you lose, then thats just the price for the fun you had. Don't play with money you can't afford to lose. Either you have money to lose or you don't. Making excuses to go against this rule will get you everytime.

The only thing I know is that your actions dictate your fate, so if you have lack of control in gambling, you would know what your fate will be in the future, and don't expect you will not face a problem. Gambling is risky for people who lack discipline, that's why it's very important to understand the risk so we will have any problem in managing it.

This is why many people are traversing the wrong road once they got too deep in gambling. So while you are still in control with your gambling, better moderate it and know the limits how far you can go in this game. Don't resort to taking a loan from someone or even from your family, just to augment your needs in gambling. If you don't have funds, better stop.

Many people are traversing the wrong road once they got too deep in gambling, however that being said, I think the problem can be created with anything. Drugs, food, Abusive/Gaslighting relationships....anything. All it really has to do is with the people's brains and the amount of dopamine they need/are recieving. The dopamine molecule is the reward molecule. If you keep rewarding yourself for bad behaviour, you will definitely find yourself in a loop cycle of doing the same bad behaviour for that dopamine reward. Best way is to distract yourself with something else until your dopamine goes back to normal functions.

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I concur, I understand that there are those that are deeply philosophical and could see on what they do the hand of fate having a say, but most people are not like that, when I see people blaming fate for something bad it happened to them most of the time what is really happening is that they are trying to point the finger at something and they have nothing else but fate to point at, they are trying to avoid the responsibility of their actions and unfortunately that leads them to make the same mistakes over and over again.

Natural for some people who cant just accept losses and really took out some blame into someone or something just for them to wash their hands that they hadnt committed any mistake.
And this would continue into their future gambling activity and would have the same impression and blaming into the same thing.Fate is something you are the ones you do make off
and its not a fixed one but rather a dynamic which would really be basing up on the things that you've been doing.

And the saddest part is that most of the time those people do the same over and over again not only when it comes to gambling but with everything else, and this means they never make any progress in life as everything negative that happens to them is the fault of someone else and they have no say on what is happening, it is as if they consider themselves just spectators of their own life and I simply do not believe there is a person that actually lives their life like that.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on September 19, 2021, 08:05:19 AM

You can really change your fate like what youve said if you have everything under controlled then that could change the path of fate because everything has a cause and effect so that it. But when we are talking about luck then that is random which is really how lucky your are. I think both fate and lack of control are the same since you are controlling your fate since this game is only influence by your self not like the others that people can also influence it unless those gambling is not fair to you.

I'm not sure how it will be possible. Because, even in the completely fair environment, you cannot do anything about the losses when you are having full control on your gambling activities because the random nature of gambling leads to losses. So, as long as gambling is based on random things, your control will not lead to any big impact but everything will happen as per your fate.

I agree with your point of both fate and lack of control are somehow same thing with respect to gambling. Because, these two things are highly related to random nature of gambling.

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Quote from: Wakate on September 18, 2021, 06:12:03 PM

Religious people so much believe on fate and they always see it as unmerited favour.

Not fate but maybe faith? cmiiw.

Quote from: Wakate on September 18, 2021, 06:12:03 PM

Luck can bring go and interesting things to hold to a win game. Luck is a force that triggered one to make some certain moves that can get to making a win.

It's all about feeling lucky and that's why if someone feels that it's his lucky day and that makes him to do certain moves with his bets. And the usual thing in gambling is when someone wins, we're all up to that he's lucky.

Well, losing once would be considered as fate but continuously losing without thinking about the risks first is considered as lack of control. Most games are based on luck but we're still responsible for the number of bets that we'll do. Our bets have their consequences and no matter how we feel lucky, we should still know how to put limits.

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Quote from: juliepower on September 19, 2021, 06:22:12 AM

It is easy to write and comment on the topic but I would like to see you guys the moment your sweat is cold and you are about to do your next move before losing everything.

True to that, I've felt that sweat cold and that very moment that I don't know what to do and I'm freaking out. It's truly a gamble whether you play dice or any game that you're likely in the most crucial part and it's likely your last money or with that potential win, you're hoping for it to hit that because you don't have anything left and that's the last money that you have maybe for that day or a week or two.

Quote from: juliepower on September 19, 2021, 06:22:12 AM

In theory, everything should be under control right? But when you gamble you face reality, and that can hit you very bad.

Right, but in actuality, it's becoming different.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on September 18, 2021, 04:03:16 PM

This is why many people are traversing the wrong road once they got too deep in gambling. So while you are still in control with your gambling, better moderate it and know the limits how far you can go in this game. Don't resort to taking a loan from someone or even from your family, just to augment your needs in gambling. If you don't have funds, better stop.

Just know your limits and know how to control yourself. Whether the fate is bad with your first tries and then the next ones became better, still do not be overjoyed by it.
Learn to control and always be neutral every time you gamble.

That is what a gambler must do when they are playing gambling. Without having control, they will not have a chance to keep their balance instead will use all of the funds to just playing gambling. No matter your fate, you can only try to enjoy the game and do not think about your fate because you will not see it until you finish playing gambling. It will be better to have fun and trying to enjoy the game and always control yourself.

You can really change your fate like what youve said if you have everything under controlled then that could change the path of fate because everything has a cause and effect so that it. But when we are talking about luck then that is random which is really how lucky your are. I think both fate and lack of control are the same since you are controlling your fate since this game is only influence by your self not like the others that people can also influence it unless those gambling is not fair to you.

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Quote from: michellee on September 19, 2021, 06:13:45 AM

Without having control, they will not have a chance to keep their balance instead will use all of the funds to just playing gambling. No matter your fate, you can only try to enjoy the game and do not think about your fate because you will not see it until you finish playing gambling.

Control on when to play and how much base bet we need to set kind of things will help in gambling to sustain for long a period of time. But, once you decide about finding fun out of gambling then I agree with you that we will never need to worry about any of these things. If your luck factor allows you to continue then you can enjoy for more time otherwise you need to wrap up as early as it happens.

Quote from: michellee on September 19, 2021, 06:13:45 AM

It will be better to have fun and trying to enjoy the game and always control yourself.

I don't think it will be possible to be conscious about what we are doing in gambling and enjoying at the same time. I mean you need to loose your control so that you can enjoy your gambling otherwise you will slowly becoming money seeking gambler rather than being a fun seeking gamblers.

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It is easy to write and comment on the topic but I would like to see you guys the moment your sweat is cold and you are about to do your next move before losing everything. In theory, everything should be under control right? But when you gamble you face reality, and that can hit you very bad.

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Quote from: tabas on September 18, 2021, 06:38:11 PM

Quote from: Twinkledoe on September 18, 2021, 04:03:16 PM

This is why many people are traversing the wrong road once they got too deep in gambling. So while you are still in control with your gambling, better moderate it and know the limits how far you can go in this game. Don't resort to taking a loan from someone or even from your family, just to augment your needs in gambling. If you don't have funds, better stop.

Just know your limits and know how to control yourself. Whether the fate is bad with your first tries and then the next ones became better, still do not be overjoyed by it.
Learn to control and always be neutral every time you gamble.

That is what a gambler must do when they are playing gambling. Without having control, they will not have a chance to keep their balance instead will use all of the funds to just playing gambling. No matter your fate, you can only try to enjoy the game and do not think about your fate because you will not see it until you finish playing gambling. It will be better to have fun and trying to enjoy the game and always control yourself.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on September 18, 2021, 04:03:16 PM

This is why many people are traversing the wrong road once they got too deep in gambling. So while you are still in control with your gambling, better moderate it and know the limits how far you can go in this game. Don't resort to taking a loan from someone or even from your family, just to augment your needs in gambling. If you don't have funds, better stop.

Just know your limits and know how to control yourself. Whether the fate is bad with your first tries and then the next ones became better, still do not be overjoyed by it.
Learn to control and always be neutral every time you gamble.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on September 11, 2021, 08:41:53 AM

LMAO, there is no such thing is "fate" when it comes to gambling or anything period as far as I am concerned. That's like using the saying "everything happens for a reason". It amazes me that people literally believe that. Gambling is two part..both skill and luck, but there is not fate involved. Let's be real here.

Fate is power especially when it comes to people that are religious in nature, doing things and believing that there fate will always set them free, giving them luck that can attract more luck when it comes to gambling. Gambling does not only works with fate but also luck which is the influence that is pulled by fate.

Yes, it is more religious people, and I believe it is their destiny to win this game or the pot money, but it was just their thoughts, and there was nothing wrong with them. It's the same as their expression. It's like when we say gambling is all about luck, but that's just our opinion; you'll say it's a combination of skill and luck. Everything is fine because we each have our own viewpoint on life. What's the point of not having fate if it's free and can boost your morale?

Religious people so much believe on fate and they always see it as unmerited favour. Like the fate is the power behind the existence. Luck is another thing that can be relate to fate. Luck can bring go and interesting things to hold to a win game. Luck is a force that triggered one to make some certain moves that can get to making a win.

Something I always put in my head: you shouldn't put luck or religion in games of chance. I know the name itself speaks of bad luck, but when we are playing we have to trust and depend only on our own ability, the moment we stop trusting our ability and start relying on luck and religion then we start to lose a lot and we start blaming god or use the argument that we weren't lucky so next time we'll be lucky. but that's not where it has to be, if the person has lost 3 consecutive games and keeps losing then there is something that is not right in the strategy, you have to change the strategy and test every game to see which strategy will bring victories

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Quote from: Wakate on September 18, 2021, 06:12:03 PM

Religious people so much believe on fate and they always see it as unmerited favour.

Not fate but maybe faith? cmiiw.

Quote from: Wakate on September 18, 2021, 06:12:03 PM

Luck can bring go and interesting things to hold to a win game. Luck is a force that triggered one to make some certain moves that can get to making a win.

It's all about feeling lucky and that's why if someone feels that it's his lucky day and that makes him to do certain moves with his bets. And the usual thing in gambling when someone wins, we're all up to that he's lucky.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on September 11, 2021, 08:41:53 AM

LMAO, there is no such thing is "fate" when it comes to gambling or anything period as far as I am concerned. That's like using the saying "everything happens for a reason". It amazes me that people literally believe that. Gambling is two part..both skill and luck, but there is not fate involved. Let's be real here.

Fate is power especially when it comes to people that are religious in nature, doing things and believing that there fate will always set them free, giving them luck that can attract more luck when it comes to gambling. Gambling does not only works with fate but also luck which is the influence that is pulled by fate.

Yes, it is more religious people, and I believe it is their destiny to win this game or the pot money, but it was just their thoughts, and there was nothing wrong with them. It's the same as their expression. It's like when we say gambling is all about luck, but that's just our opinion; you'll say it's a combination of skill and luck. Everything is fine because we each have our own viewpoint on life. What's the point of not having fate if it's free and can boost your morale?

Religious people so much believe on fate and they always see it as unmerited favour. Like the fate is the power behind the existence. Luck is another thing that can be relate to fate. Luck can bring go and interesting things to hold to a win game. Luck is a force that triggered one to make some certain moves that can get to making a win.

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Quote from: Russlenat on September 18, 2021, 02:58:41 PM

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on September 18, 2021, 12:16:06 PM

You can't really expect fate and lack of control be one and the same. Fate has many roads but you get to pick which one of those roads you go down. As for me, gambling can be fun and if you make a winning, yay for you. And if you lose, then thats just the price for the fun you had. Don't play with money you can't afford to lose. Either you have money to lose or you don't. Making excuses to go against this rule will get you everytime.

The only thing I know is that your actions dictate your fate, so if you have lack of control in gambling, you would know what your fate will be in the future, and don't expect you will not face a problem. Gambling is risky for people who lack discipline, that's why it's very important to understand the risk so we will have any problem in managing it.

This is why we are all responsible on every decisions that we will make because our goal is the result of our hard work though in gambling is must also come with luck because even if you have control but if you’re not lucky by that time, I can’t see you to win. Build yourself first, be better on making decisions and yes, you must have good discipline in gambling.

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Quote from: Russlenat on September 18, 2021, 02:58:41 PM

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on September 18, 2021, 12:16:06 PM

You can't really expect fate and lack of control be one and the same. Fate has many roads but you get to pick which one of those roads you go down. As for me, gambling can be fun and if you make a winning, yay for you. And if you lose, then thats just the price for the fun you had. Don't play with money you can't afford to lose. Either you have money to lose or you don't. Making excuses to go against this rule will get you everytime.

The only thing I know is that your actions dictate your fate, so if you have lack of control in gambling, you would know what your fate will be in the future, and don't expect you will not face a problem. Gambling is risky for people who lack discipline, that's why it's very important to understand the risk so we will have any problem in managing it.

This is why many people are traversing the wrong road once they got too deep in gambling. So while you are still in control with your gambling, better moderate it and know the limits how far you can go in this game. Don't resort to taking a loan from someone or even from your family, just to augment your needs in gambling. If you don't have funds, better stop.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on September 18, 2021, 12:16:06 PM

You can't really expect fate and lack of control be one and the same. Fate has many roads but you get to pick which one of those roads you go down. As for me, gambling can be fun and if you make a winning, yay for you. And if you lose, then thats just the price for the fun you had. Don't play with money you can't afford to lose. Either you have money to lose or you don't. Making excuses to go against this rule will get you everytime.

The only thing I know is that your actions dictate your fate, so if you have lack of control in gambling, you would know what your fate will be in the future, and don't expect you will not face a problem. Gambling is risky for people who lack discipline, that's why it's very important to understand the risk so we will have any problem in managing it.

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Quote from: Mahanton on September 16, 2021, 06:52:10 PM

Natural for some people who cant just accept losses and really took out some blame into someone or something just for them to wash their hands that they hadnt committed any mistake.

Pointing fingers are normal with people who have that kind of attitude, they don't want to admit that they already lose a lot
and they can no longer control their gambling activities.

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And this would continue into their future gambling activity and would have the same impression and blaming into the same thing.

The more they lose, the more they will put blame to others, they will only realize that the amount they burned is no longer
acceptable when they already lose everything inside thier savings.

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Fate is something you are the ones you do make off and its not a fixed one but rather a dynamic which would really be basing up on the things that you've been doing.

Not fixed, you are the one who's creating your fate. In this business nothing is certain, but if you are wise enough
you will take every opportunities that luck gives you to enjoy your profits.

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