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legendary
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Fauci says the vaccine will only be about 50% effective.


All he means is that about 50% who get the jab will die from it. Some die quick. Others die in agony.


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you did not even make a post in this topic..
legendary
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The problem with all this is the economic interests behind it. Normally we cannot rely on statistics, so if the statistics support the fact that the pharmaceutical companies make a lot of money, even less so, I think. Curiously, we hear little or nothing about boosting the immune system in a natural way. What a coincidence that it does not make money for the pharmaceutical companies.

The AstraZeneca vaccine is sold at cost. No profit.



Nobody does all that work at no cost. The cost is to the taxpayers, who supply the money for the grants extended to the vaccine companies. But the bigger cost is to the recipients of the so-called vaccine.


AstraZeneca changes the name of its coronavirus vaccine after wave of blood clot deaths



Pharmaceutical giant AstraZeneca changed the name of its Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine following a string of controversies about its efficacy and several deaths. The vaccine developed by the Anglo-Swedish pharmaceutical company in cooperation with Oxford University is now called Vaxzevria. It was previously known simply as the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine.

The portal of the Swedish National Medicines Agency confirmed that the name change was approved by the European Medicines Agency (EMA) on March 25 following a request from the company. It also noted that the name change is not associated with any other change in the vaccine.

No official reason has been given for the name change.

Controversies hound AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine

AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine has made headlines several times for all the wrong reasons since it received the green light from the EMA in late January. Right after its approval, various countries in Europe decided to not use it for the elderly and chose to wait for more data.

Earlier this month, more than a dozen European countries temporarily suspended the use of AstraZeneca’s vaccine after cases of blood clots and low platelet counts emerged. (Related: Researchers confirm antibodies from the AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine cause blood clots.)

The company had also been accused of withholding data to make the vaccine seem more effective than it actually was in human trials done in the U.S., Chile and Peru.

In response, the company has done its best to fight the controversies.

The company rectified its efficacy data while actually showing a higher efficacy rate at blocking symptoms in people over 65 years old. The latest data showed 85 percent efficacy, five points higher than the figure reported in March 22.

At the same time, the EMA’s Pharmacovigilance Risk Assessment Committee (PRAC) concluded that the vaccine is not associated with an increased risk of thromboembolic events and that its benefits still outweigh its risks.

But AstraZeneca has still found itself in the middle of another controversy as the European Commission announced tighter new controls on the export of vaccines produced within the European Union.

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legendary
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The problem with all this is the economic interests behind it. Normally we cannot rely on statistics, so if the statistics support the fact that the pharmaceutical companies make a lot of money, even less so, I think. Curiously, we hear little or nothing about boosting the immune system in a natural way. What a coincidence that it does not make money for the pharmaceutical companies.

The AstraZeneca vaccine is sold at cost. No profit.

Agree that the other vaccine companies are making vast amounts of money. But if an urgent problem can only be resolved by a very small number of expert companies, then you'd expect those companies to make money - it's how the modern economy works. Doesn't make the problem itself artificial, though.

Also, we've heard a fair amount about the effectiveness of vitamin D, which doesn't make $$$ for pharma. And we've heard about the importance of healthy diet, how obesity is a factor, etc. At least in my country - will obviously vary around the world.
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Well its hard to tell the effect of vaccine whether it is 50, 60, 70% rate of effectivity and no one really trust them fully, there is still money involved behind all these, so that the majority of people really believe in it, It is much better to give people something to eat, drink that can boost their immune system rather than taking this kind of vaccine which to other are not effective.

It is so hard to keep track of all these different kind of vaccines. Almost all of the big countries have their own vaccines, USA and China have 3 vaccines each already being exported. But what we don't know is how effective is each and everyone one of them. Why is it so hard to make a comparison between them? In my opinion this is politically motivated to not make these information public. If we could rank the vaccines in terms of efficency then worst vaccines probably wouldn't be used anymore as nobody would want to get it.
Covid virus is getting mutated so now we have completely different kinds of covid 19 virus from the year 2020 but these vaccines are made for the early strain but now the new strain can be resistant to the vaccines that is why efficacy is getting reducing further.

"Mutated" isn't and doesn't mean "completely different."

One might say that Covid-19/SARS-CoV-2 is a mutation of the original SARS that existed back in 2003. But the two of them are around 80% or 85% the same. Mutations of Covid-19/SARS-CoV-2 that happen here and there over a short period of days or weeks, are almost exactly the same as their parent that they mutated from.

Vaccines may not recognize mutated strains. But the immune system recognizes even Covid-19/SARS-CoV-2 because of its work on, and memory of, the original SARS.

The original SARS is simply a mutated form of the common cold. There are many mutations of the common cold. SARS happened to be one of them that was a little more aggressive. So is Covid-19/SARS-CoV-2. But the immune system stopped the original SARS. We didn't have a pandemic. Vaccines certainly didn't work.

Big Pharma wants to make money. That's why they used the media to turn Covid-19/SARS-CoV-2 into a pandemic when it really isn't. Covid-19/SARS-CoV-2 will go away on its own, except that the things that the medical are doing are making it last longer. Why will/is Covid-19/SARS-CoV-2 going away naturally? Because the immune system recognizes its similarity to the common cold, and is destroying it just like immune systems destroyed the original SARS.

The vaccine is not 50% effective at getting rid of Covid-19/SARS-CoV-2. Rather, the vaccines are probably 50% effective at making Covid-19/SARS-CoV-2 last longer. So, Fauci wasn't lying. He was simply twisting the truth in a wrong direction.

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Well its hard to tell the effect of vaccine whether it is 50, 60, 70% rate of effectivity and no one really trust them fully, there is still money involved behind all these, so that the majority of people really believe in it, It is much better to give people something to eat, drink that can boost their immune system rather than taking this kind of vaccine which to other are not effective.

It is so hard to keep track of all these different kind of vaccines. Almost all of the big countries have their own vaccines, USA and China have 3 vaccines each already being exported. But what we don't know is how effective is each and everyone one of them. Why is it so hard to make a comparison between them? In my opinion this is politically motivated to not make these information public. If we could rank the vaccines in terms of efficency then worst vaccines probably wouldn't be used anymore as nobody would want to get it.
Covid virus is getting mutated so now we have completely different kinds of covid 19 virus from the year 2020 but these vaccines are made for the early strain but now the new strain can be resistant to the vaccines that is why efficacy is getting reducing further.
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Well its hard to tell the effect of vaccine whether it is 50, 60, 70% rate of effectivity and no one really trust them fully, there is still money involved behind all these, so that the majority of people really believe in it, It is much better to give people something to eat, drink that can boost their immune system rather than taking this kind of vaccine which to other are not effective.

It is so hard to keep track of all these different kind of vaccines. Almost all of the big countries have their own vaccines, USA and China have 3 vaccines each already being exported. But what we don't know is how effective is each and everyone one of them. Why is it so hard to make a comparison between them? In my opinion this is politically motivated to not make these information public. If we could rank the vaccines in terms of efficency then worst vaccines probably wouldn't be used anymore as nobody would want to get it.
legendary
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Well its hard to tell the effect of vaccine whether it is 50, 60, 70% rate of effectivity and no one really trust them fully, there is still money involved behind all these, so that the majority of people really believe in it, It is much better to give people something to eat, drink that can boost their immune system rather than taking this kind of vaccine which to other are not effective.

The problem with all this is the economic interests behind it. Normally we cannot rely on statistics, so if the statistics support the fact that the pharmaceutical companies make a lot of money, even less so, I think. Curiously, we hear little or nothing about boosting the immune system in a natural way. What a coincidence that it does not make money for the pharmaceutical companies.
legendary
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Well its hard to tell the effect of vaccine whether it is 50, 60, 70% rate of effectivity and no one really trust them fully, there is still money involved behind all these, so that the majority of people really believe in it, It is much better to give people something to eat, drink that can boost their immune system rather than taking this kind of vaccine which to other are not effective.

That's right. It's difficult to tell. So, spend some time watching the videos here - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/. Why? Because these videos will show you how medical leaders are misrepresenting the true results of the vaccines, and that there even IS a need for vaccines.

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Well its hard to tell the effect of vaccine whether it is 50, 60, 70% rate of effectivity and no one really trust them fully, there is still money involved behind all these, so that the majority of people really believe in it, It is much better to give people something to eat, drink that can boost their immune system rather than taking this kind of vaccine which to other are not effective.
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trump is no expert. so looking for an adviser that jsut kisses pesidents ass rather than telling him the facts is not a good idea

atlas has been kissing many poliitcians ass for years and is more motivated by politics than by biology/fact

i cant see this going well as it will just turn into an echo chamber of whatever delusions trump comes up with just being repeated by atlas

other experts dont fear correcting idiots and thats whats best.
just hearing idiots and then hearing what idiots say get repeated by others. is never good

It's reached the point where Fauci has low credibility. Very low credibility.

Its astonishing to see how many people / so called experts are losing their creditability and are exposed in public when they give their stance about the covid19 and its vaccine.
Almost all of the people don't care about the people health, they only care how much money they could make with pandemic.  Sad
legendary
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^^^ But the CDC says just the opposite on their VAERS pages. Their VAERS pages show that people are dying from the vaccines... thousands of them. And the pages suggest that only 10% of deaths, etc., are being provided to VAERS. Thousands are dying from the vaccines.

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The outbreak of covid-19 has posed severe treat to the world. Scientists on their parts are at different part of the world carrying out research on this dreaded pandemic and primarily we have had some level of success in curbing this. But my biggest fear is if it is safe to induce this vaccines on humans. Many people have different immunity to infections and so many react harshly to toxic vaccines. I still suggest more research be carried out to save the population from been induced with vaccines that will pose danger in the future thereby having side effects

One good thing we start to notice is that the death rates are dropping with the rise of vaccinations. Especially among the elderly population we see much lower rates. But just because the vaccines are working right now, doesn't mean it is going to stay like this. There are already quite a few different mutations of the corona virus out there. No one can tell us how many more of those are going to come up and how effective they are going to be. It might be the case they will be immune to the vaccine.
legendary
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your self protection mechanism is that you are an idiot and so blame the websites that feed you your scripts. you keep pretending its not your words yet you do not put in the brain power to actually read the info and research it to see if its correct before posting it. then you claim its 100% scientific fact. all the time - I'm kinda happy that you can't seem to understand the science in the links that I provide. It's like getting the opportunity to show respect to people who are hung up on wearing masks. We don't show respect by wearing masks in front of them. We show respect by not laughing at their silly hangup.

atleast i explain my stuff and actually note when i am using proper research or just making a dumbed down example to explain something idiots dont understand if said in full context - I'm sure that you know what you are talking about when you explain your stuff. But there is reason for using proper grammar, proper spelling, and proper punctuation. Have you figured out what that reason is? It's so that other people can understand what you are talking about.

Take tvbcof for example. If you look at his posts, you can easily see that he is quite intelligent. And he does a good job of guessing what you are talking about in your improper English jabber. But you jabber as you do because you don't want him or anybody to understand what you are talking about. That way you can easily come back and with a response that is talking about something completely different than what he says, and make believe that such is what you were talking about all along. This way you can call other people idiots, just because you haven't said anything concrete to them about much of anything.

But that's okay. This is a forum. If you want to write Sumerian in the forum, you might be making a valid point. But approximately 100% of forum members will never figure out what you are saying. You will be accepted as a forum member. But a few people might even laugh at how comical you are, now and again.


take you many posts
in one topic you say viruses dont exist
in another topic you say they exist and have been proven and seen for atleast 9 years
in another topic you say everyone has already been immunised against it
in another you say people have not been immunised because lockdown prevented infections
in another topic you say no one gets infected or sick
in another you say people can get sick but you have the magic pill cure for it
in another you say people should avoid buying pills
in another you say there is no health risk and only a economic risk where people need to work to pay taxes
in another you say the government is causing chaos and we should defund the government

your flip flops are transparent.

People easily understand how you can be mixed up. You haven't figured out how to take things in context. You don't even know when to understand something as sarcasm or humor, or when a person plays devil's advocate for a short time.

However, it is good to be simple like you are. If you could only tweak your grammar and spelling and punctuation so that your focus could be understood... and if you would drop the vindictiveness against anything that somebody else says... you might even get a little recognition as being intellectually capable.


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The outbreak of covid-19 has posed severe treat to the world. Scientists on their parts are at different part of the world carrying out research on this dreaded pandemic and primarily we have had some level of success in curbing this. But my biggest fear is if it is safe to induce this vaccines on humans. Many people have different immunity to infections and so many react harshly to toxic vaccines. I still suggest more research be carried out to save the population from been induced with vaccines that will pose danger in the future thereby having side effects
legendary
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your self protection mechanism is that you are an idiot and so blame the websites that feed you your scripts. you keep pretending its not your words yet you do not put in the brain power to actually read the info and research it to see if its correct before posting it. then you claim its 100% scientific fact. all the time

atleast i explain my stuff and actually note when i am using proper research or just making a dumbed down example to explain something idiots dont understand if said in full context

take you many posts
in one topic you say viruses dont exist
in another topic you say they exist and have been proven and seen for atleast 9 years
in another topic you say everyone has already been immunised against it
in another you say people have not been immunised because lockdown prevented infections
in another topic you say no one gets infected or sick
in another you say people can get sick but you have the magic pill cure for it
in another you say people should avoid buying pills
in another you say there is no health risk and only a economic risk where people need to work to pay taxes
in another you say the government is causing chaos and we should defund the government

your flip flops are transparent.
legendary
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i done the 3d math in another topic, but i forgot the actual numbers(which i said).
but using just basic math of a dummy 2x factor i was just showing numbers that even a dumb person can see

i never said i was trying to be scientific/precise. because that would just blow the minds of idiots. so i dumbed it down

Built-in self-protection mechanism, right?     Grin
legendary
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ive seen grammar nazi's.. but now we have math nazis

ok time to quote myself a couple times to show why the context of the message is lost on gramma/math nazi's

(i forgot actual numbers but basic logic double distance=half the risk math)

i done the 3d math in another topic, but i forgot the actual numbers(which i said).
but using just basic math of a dummy 2x factor i was just showing numbers that even a dumb person can see

i never said i was trying to be scientific/precise. because that would just blow the minds of idiots. so i dumbed it down
legendary
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^^^ He meant 3[r]d [grade] math...     Cool
legendary
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i done the 3d math...
I'm seeing a 6 or 8 dimensional problem, not 3. You've got time, temperature, particulate size, winds, stratification, and dispersion rates.

But just looking at what you advised possible Internet viewers on...

basic logic double distance=half the risk math)
instead of inhaling say 100k particles by being 6inches away from someone(hugging them)
being 1foot away.(shoulder to shoulder) would be 50k
being 2foot away (arms length) 25k
being 4foot away (both at arms length to touch hands) 12.5k
being 6foot away~9k

thus decreasing the risk by over 10x just by not being in kissing distance and instead 2m apart,....


Here I am advising you that the very first doubling of distance essentially did that, reducing particular count by 8/9.

So your conclusions are just plain wrong, aren't they?
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