Topic: Fauci says the vaccine will only be about 50% effective. - page 2. (Read 615 times)

i done the 3d math in another topic, but i forgot the actual numbers(which i said).
but using just basic math of a dummy 2x factor i was just showing numbers that even a dumb person can see

the numbers are more than 2x but i didnt wanna complicate the maths.
in hindesight yea maybe i could of looked up the better math. but at the time i just wanted to make a quick dumb example because it appears a few dumb people cant understand how distance helps

but as you say 100k becomes 11k(1ft)... becomes1.2k(2ft)....becomes 137(4ft)..... becomes 61(6ft)
which is large change for just a 2m distance

who would want to fight a battalion of 100k attackers or just 61 attackers, i know what id choose

No that's crazy wrong.

Dispersion of an aerosol in a cloud is a 3 dimensional dispersion and inverse cube applies. So roughly, 2x the distance would be 1/9 the density of particles.

Are you pulling a Fauci?

This doesn't mean that Fauci is out of his positions at the CDC/NIH, etc. All it means is that the new guy is IN with the White House.


Good News: Fauci's Out and Common Sense Might Be Returning

the issue with saying "increase our resistance" is that some people dont understand the difference between
1.mineral deficient organs.
2.mineral inefficient organs(dont absorb well even when overdosed minerals)
3.damaged organs
4. organ failure

so idiots start trying to sell supplements saying it will solve/help the 'resistance' issue.
issues are that 2,3,4 wont get helped by overdosing on minerals. most of the minerals the body cant handle just get excreted out when they use the bathroom the same day
those in the first category also dont just absorb it all. your body even if it can absorb at normal healthy levels wont take in the excess but excrete it


the ultimate best option for resistance is to not get a high dose viral load to need to have a large fight against
which is where the social distancing stuff comes in

(i forgot actual numbers but basic logic double distance=half the risk math)
instead of inhaling say 100k particles by being 6inches away from someone(hugging them)
being 1foot away.(shoulder to shoulder) would be 50k
being 2foot away (arms length) 25k
being 4foot away (both at arms length to touch hands) 12.5k
being 6foot away~9k

thus decreasing the risk by over 10x just by not being in kissing distance and instead 2m apart
wearing a face covering can be 20%(knitted scarf)<70%(thick cloth) extra effective to reduce the viral load
and 95% if it a proper surgical mask

thus if you cant avoid 2m distance you could wear a face covering/mask to be helpful to reduce the load

less virus inhaled = less of a battle
less virus inhaled = more time needed for virus to replicated to enough numbers to affect you
more time to replicate to numbers enough to effect you = more time for your body to adapt and fight back

its simple logic
after all, basic common sense is if you are downwind from some graffiti artist spray painting a wall.. would you want to be really close to them and get their paint on you. or keep your distance

idiots saying get up close get sick get herd infected and buy loads of supplements are just not following logic

Even with this international agreement, I guess these pharma companies are racing on their own as huge money is involved with it. And with global requirement, they will not be out of the market. But of course, we will not know the potency of these vaccines and it would take time to really assess their effectiveness to combat the virus. But for the moment, we need to increase our resistance from potential sickness, not only with this virus but other sicknesses that may give us vulnerability to this disease.

maybe you should actually research the facts
all major countries have actually done an international agreement to share their research and also the recipe

also no vaccine not even russia is going to release to general public until phase 3 trials are done
UK,US,RUSSIA all have 'mass' trials in the next few months of a few thousand people.

I agree, so many countries are searching for a vaccine to develop it on their own. It's not like all the big pharma companies work together and share all their findings. Governments and Companies are working against each other to the first one to actually have a good vaccine available. I am not even convinced yet that these vaccine will help in the long run. Personally I am going to wait for others to take the vaccines first. I don't want to be the lab mouse.

It's reached the point where Fauci has low credibility. Very low credibility.

trump is no expert. so looking for an adviser that jsut kisses pesidents ass rather than telling him the facts is not a good idea

atlas has been kissing many poliitcians ass for years and is more motivated by politics than by biology/fact

i cant see this going well as it will just turn into an echo chamber of whatever delusions trump comes up with just being repeated by atlas

other experts dont fear correcting idiots and thats whats best.
just hearing idiots and then hearing what idiots say get repeated by others. is never good

Trump is moving to stop the senseless pandemic.

Who Is Dr. Scott Atlas? Trump's New Covid Health Adviser Seen As Counter To Fauci And Birx - https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattperez/2020/08/12/who-is-dr-scott-atlas-trumps-new-covid-health-adviser-seen-as-counter-to-fauci-and-birx/#ae4b34a20a4f

Governments usually add their own interests also don't believe that thus far no government has been ready to take the proper steps to stop the virus. most are protecting themselves until the vaccine arrives. Fawcett is true that the vaccine are going to be about 50% effective because nobody has yet invented a vaccine to regulate the virus. and every one of this is often happening during a in no time time and out of the traditional trend of creating antidotes. there's no guarantee that this antidote will add any room.

Or get hydroxychloroquine + zinc. But if HCQ isn't abailable, get one of its many sister medications.

I agree with you. But of course this doesn't bring profit to the companies. We must work on our immune system, not wait till the vaccine arrives.

^^^ So THAT's why the more you test with the PCR, the higher your rate of Covid infection goes, until it's 100%. Hey, thanks for the info.

PCR is just a machine. that was not designed for covid. it had multiple purposes

its the specific chemicals and other equipment that is used in combination that is the diagnostic mechanism for covid

yes it includes centrifuges during this PCR test
and the funny part is you think only centrifuges alone is all that needed and you have many times been crying out that centrifuges is the only way..

not realising that its a combination of many processes in one

a centrifuge alone is meaningless. because you then have to extract and the test the bit you extracted.
so dont play dumb thinking a centrifuge alone is the real way
so dont play dumb that PCR is the alone process and thus not the real way

and just wake up and understand theres more complexity to it of multiples processes under the umbrella term 'pcr test'

This is why anybody can know that you don't have any clue. Even the creator of the PCR test said that it wasn't supposed to be used for diagnosis.

When PCR is used, the more it is used in a locality, the greater the percentage of whatever it is looking for. This means that even if Covid exists in only 1% of the people, constant use of PCR will gradually bring the look of it up to 100%.

You are so in the dark ages, franky1.

this is why i think you have no clue

PCR diagnosed covid
analogy
doctor diagnosed illness

what your not understanding is that the doctor uses extra things you dont know to come to the diagnoses
even if an umbrella term is 'doctor' or 'pcr' is used along side diagnosed.. alot more goes into it
other parts, equipment, and processes are involved


once you realise the process involved in a covid test the reagents, primers pipettes, centrifuges, scanners enzymes and other diagnostic stuff..
you start to realise the most important thing. that you just had no clue whats involved

Herd immunity doesn't mean that nobody will get sick. All it means is that most won't get sick.

I think the whole country has herd immunity, and only the few are getting sick.

Fauci says the vaccine will only be about 50% effective.


That's because he knows it will only be about 10% effective.     

Heh, not sure who exactly I've been inaccurate in recent communications, though it is totally possible.

But back onto the topic here. Yeah - some areas were totally harder hit then others and MAY have herd immunity just within that particular community. Still though, in one of the hardest hit states in regards to cases (second to California and now Florida) they are still not even CLOSE to the numbers we would have to hit to have herd immunity come into effect.

The amount of death and illness that was seen on New York was horrible, imagine doubling the amount of people sick and a bit more?

Not a good idea at all. All this talk about your immune system and herd immunity is from people who don't understand how herd immunity works.

Herd immunity can work, yes, but you need 70-80% of the population to get COVID. No one wants that.