Topic: Fauci says the vaccine will only be about 50% effective. - page 3. (Read 603 times)

When you have 100% Covid indicated by PCR, the other steps don't matter.

by the way jetcash

UK NHS is not funded by corporate insurers or funded by big pharma
UK NHS is funded by the treasury

instead of reading americanised conspiracy sites and then quoting them as if your talking about UK situation..

actually look at the real UK situation and study the UK statistics.

for once your actually quite accurate
in some area's of NY some neighbourhoods had 69% some had 59% and some had 13%. calculating the populations over all they suggest NY the epicenter city had ~26% overall spread

then outside the city in NY state.. the numbers went below 13%
then outside NY state the numbers were even lower

best guess is about 5% is the upper max spread of all americans. (but suggestions are much lower)
funny part is idiots like say badecker who was crying that the lockdown was implemented in his state(arizona) when case numbers were super low.. thus admitting less cases in his state/no cases(when he flips to virus is fake)) .. but then says that his state is somehow then at herd immunity the next time he flips..
thus contradicting his other words
its just stupid how these idiots pretend the virus is fake then suddenly flip to say people already had it. and then even more stupid to say its important to be 'herd immune' while not realising if they really thought it was fake/not harmful. then immunity wont be important as there is no harm

it just shows how stupid these 'we need herd immunity' people are because they dont even understand the crap the talk about

But about 3/4 of the biped entities in NY are zombie Demorats, and I don't think they catch covid. So of the remaining 25%, the real living breathing humans, they should have herd immunity by now.

Did you just say 80% of UK has immunity based on your own personal observation? Is that based on you thinking that 80% of people in the UK have already have it, or that their body just has a natutal immunity to COVID?

Very curious on the line of thinking there. Because here's my line of thinking:

CDC says that we probably catch 1/10 cases that actually have COVID. Meaning that for every 10 cases that there really are, only one of them are caught by tests. Lets consider this for New York where they have about 474k cases that have been confirmed. From that, you could say that another 10x the amount of people have it. So that would mean that 4.7m people in New York had it at a point.

Just for context 20m people live in New York meaning that even on the high end of the scale, that would mean that only about 25% of NY had Corona. Herd immunity isn't achieved until you hit about 75-80%

Government is a trick used against people. How is it a trick? If any individual walking down the street tried to take your freedoms away like government does, you just might deck him.

The interesting thing is that it is NEVER government that takes your freedom away. It IS an individual who sometimes walks down the street who is taking your freedom away. He/she is using what they call government to trick you, and hide from you the fact that they are government.

In the UK, if any individual or group in government harms you, figure out the amount of damage they did in British pounds. Then invoice them. When they don't pay, take them individually, man-to-man, to Queen's Bench court. Don't represent yourself or have a barrister represent you. Stand PRESENT in court. This way they will have to stand present, as well. They won't have government protection for the governmental process they put in place that damaged you. They are the ones who damaged you, not a thing called government.

There are groups in the UK doing this. Look for them.

Karl Lentz 199 - Queens Bench - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEZZ__3BCSE

Karl Lentz 250 - Understanding the nature of Queens Bench - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi7CkqPLuBY

Karl Lentz 241 - Bali's father's case - part 1 - conditional acceptance - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaFO0XDgibo

Karl Lentz 195 - Bring the law into the court, Queens Bench, and being placed in a dock - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdJIe2e0sjA

You know that vaccines damage your health, and are not fit for the publicly advertised purpose. One can only suspect that the same applies to the governments. They are usually out of office by the time the chickens come home.

I don't trust either the government or those who offer vaccines. In my view, humanity must defeat viruses naturally, not with the vaccines they are trying to impose on us.

and the foolish thing badecker keeps forgetting. because he has been told this many times

that the confirmation of covid is not by pure PCR
its actually if you simplify it down a 3 step process and PCR is the middle part

when saying PCR alone wont confirm covid. that is true. because it needs steps before PCR and steps after PCR to be the full confirming test parameters

once badecker remembers that he has been told that its the chemicals to isolate the virus(1) the PCR to replicate them(2) the chemicals to test for them(3)

that stage 2 alone wont work as it doesnt know what its replicating and doesnt then verify its replicated what it should have

stage 1 and 3 do that
and thats the stupid thing badecker and his fellow clowns keep avoiding. the fact that a covid test is much more than just (2)pcr

there is actually more risk of fault/error at stages 1 and 3 than at stage 2. and if badecker realised the stages involved he would understand how important it is to get stages 1 and 3 right because 1 and 3 are the important parts..

its like making a cake the important parts are the ingrediants and the icing afterwards
you can make a cake in many different ovens or even microwaves but if the ingredients are not right it wont make a cake. and if the icing after aint right it wont look like a cake

badecker this and is trying to suggest that a specific oven is the main ingrediant sorry. but no and if a oven is branded as roaast dinner oven then is should never be used to bake a cake

not relaising the secret to baking a cake is in the ingrediants and the icing..

the other part of the "scientifically meaningless" is that having covid or not is real. but the test has no context of informing if that person being tested is severly symptomatic or just a cough or assymptomatic. thus the test alone doesnt help scientists work out the severity of sickness
so the test combined with data of another source of things like hospitalisation rates is more helpful as combined info

yes more tests = more people having it. but when combining it with hospitalisation data.
(take UK stats of ~800 a day test positive and 150 hospitalised = 18% severity of those tested)
thus the data of covid tests becomes more meaningful when used in combination with other data

^^^ Seems that, that is what the medical community does... cares more about money. The point is, the more the PCR test is used in a community, the greater the percent of Covid will be, even if nobody is sick.


Bulgarian Pathology Association Says COVID-19 PCR Tests Are Scientifically Meaningless

funny how bigtree' never mentions the health of those that get sick but keeps promoting the need for spreading the virus 'to get the economy back'

when someone cares more about money than health. more about greed and selfish desire that the health of the community. and someone that promotes darwins survival of the fittest(eugenics) .. you gotta wonder why they are even pretending to say that their actions are for peoples benefits

seems more like the taxmans benefit

The funny part is that F-1 doesn't even know how to identify what is important. Watch this 19-minute video to see the vaccine logic - https://www.bitchute.com/video/OsRxtyDTGPVt/. Then go here - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/ - and check out all the videos that talk the REAL logic of vaccines. Some of these videos are long, but many of them are short snippets of sections of the longer ones.

as for the topic.
it seems jetcash translates
'FDA wont even consider a vaccine as worthy if its under 50% effective'
to be
'FDA is releasing a vaccine thats only 50% effective'

sorry but no
there are many vaccines in progress and they are not just gonna buy the one that only reaches the minimum and stick with that one. they have yet to even know how effective any vaccine is but wont even consider any below 50% and so when vaccines are released they will pick the best one

they say "our first one wont be our best and we are aiming for above 75% effectiveness"
but in short any that result in say 49% wont even be considered for further funding to refine it and work out the 'glitches' to get it to a higher number

this is why medical experts are saying 12-18 months because they have to go through a few rounds of testing and tweaking and refining and retesting.

yea trump might want to get doctors to use one thats only 51% effective in 6 months. but thats trump.
over promise/under deliver. remember trump has yet to 'build the wall'.. its been years since that 'promise'

BULLCRAP
no paper is estimating 90%
all studies of actual antibody tests (not myth stories) are saying estimates of 2%-10% in the UK depending on hotspot area

even general math case numbers even if you multiply it by 10 per 'case confirmed' still does not have an above 10% math figure
heck even if you say for every 1 person sick there are 99 infected and not sick is still no were near 90%

if there is 310k confirmed cases and we say only 10% of people infected get tested. then thats 3.1mill infected with a 90% assymptomatic/untested rate of the 310k

3m out of 65m is only 5%
still much better then the case test amount of 310k which is 0.5% infected
but assuming 59mill(90%) people have had it is pure myth with no foundation or even any ethical math to back it up

the corona vaccine is the most eagerly awaited around the world today...
I'm not sure with the vaccine they admit. Since last March many countries have said they have invented vaccines and such but there is no evidence until now. 50% effective is not a good chance, I'm afraid in the future if the corona vaccine that they admit has been found to spread it will affect our genetics.

Flu vaccines are 50% effective too. No big deal.

I trust vaccines, I don't trust people and I surely don't really trust Fauci.

I am kinda neutral about this vaccine. I'll probably skip it. I'll let other people try it first. :d cuz I'm such a gentleman.

I don't trust governments, but I trust vaccines... Having intimate knowledge of the subject really helps you tone down all the background noise... Vaccines help.

@Poker Player you’re not the only one who’s going to be skipping these vaccines, as even the world number one tennis player has said that he’s not keen to take these vaccines. @squatz1 yea the FDA will definitely be checking these, but this time it’ll be produced and approved within months and that’s the scary part for me, hence I’m definitely skipping these vaccines, and would advise you’ll do the same too unless it’s a medical emergency.


Sources:

https://www.insider.com/novak-djokovic-says-hes-anti-vaccines-wont-get-coronavirus-vaccine-2020-4

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/vaccine-development-barriers-coronavirus/

I don't trust vaccines. Firstly, they contain toxic substances (formaldehyde, aluminum, mercury, etc.), and secondly, I do not trust my health and the health of my family to corporations and large industries, for which only money is important.

From personal observation, I reckon that 80% of the UK has immunity. and one of the papers this morning puts it as high as 90% ( outside care homes ). It's hard to find sensible information, as the money Pharmers seem to suppress and distort everything. There is also considerable blocking of content as a result of legal threats. Just try to find information about the $500 million compensation fund that PayPal had to set up because it was misusing clients funds. That was all over the net for a week or two, and then it vanished, just as PayPal relocated outside the US.