Topic: Feel like defending BFL now? (Read 12068 times)

holy hell..  Jamie 'That's Why I am Richer than You' Dimon??  really?  The guy that acted like he had no knowledge how outta control his London Whale bets were?  The same guy who spawned Blythe the Derivatives Witch Masters who chomps down the silver paper market daily?

The guy is sociopath and that is WHY the shareholders love him on wallstreet..  if you are talking businesses on main street then you would be correct

Seconded.  Imagine if Jamie Dimon acted like that..shareholders would've dumped him in an instant.  Maybe BFL should hire a PR rep...or twelve.

 Good to know. I never did take that graphic as anything other than a conspiracy theory (read: No way BFL would be able to create a blip that large).

 Have never really paid attention to the map before, so the historical context is appreciated.

what happens when you put all your eggs in one basket?

It's because it isn't a single person/pool, it is the "other" category that centers itself on the country.  I read the whole thread and nobody seemed to pick up on this.  Basically, if the software that generates that graph can't locate the true position it lumps it all into a bar on the center of the country.  It is always the largest bar.

+1

Shut UP SCAMMER..plain and simple ...u and your fucking hot air ...go fucken do what peopel have paid you millions to do and SHUT THE FUCK UP !!!

That would require them to actually have them. So far all I've seen is photos of empty cases and prototype units they sent to the media to help hook some more suckers.

With all this said is BFL mining with its customers ASICs?

Anyone who does business with BFL is a moron.  They have yet to ship anything substantial, and this Josh guy is a rager and a PR nightmare.  Amy's Bakery anyone?

BFL is a liability.  Anyone who throws money at them deserves to lose it. People who want to be involved in bitcoin should be looking for lows in bitcoin price and just buy and hold bitcoins rather than investing in a product that may or may not arrive, from a company with a less than stellar reputation.  If you want ASICs, look at having one of the DIY guys build you something when the Avalon chips get in, or buy the ASICMiner gear.  There is no reason to be held hostage by BFL anymore, people.

BFL has expertly managed to create and maintain a system where many involved are near perfectly balanced on the precipice that separates fear and greed. Many of their investors express dissatisfaction with the many deceptions BFL has presented, but then go on to say that they'll not cancel for fear of "missing out". The order queue system is brilliant for locking people into a bad situation. The lost bets gave people confidence that BFL would hit their specs this time, though that didn't happen either.

When things seem to be moving against BFL for too long they raise prices and investors see that as value being added to their already placed orders. When the delays seem to be unbearable BFL ships a few half baked Jr. mining devices to devs, press, apologists/shills, and a few early investors, but we've been told many times that when shipping begins they can quickly ramp up to 300 - 400 units per day...didn't happen. The whole thing seems to be carefully cultivated to keep the screws turned tightly on investors.

Ah you shouldn't....

But I applaud you for coming to your senses.  It seems that most people I talk to either say "oh, it was only XXX dollars, I can afford to lose that if BFL doesn't deliver" - which, BTW, are very irrational thoughts.  a dollar is a dollar is a dollar.   earned, inherited, or easy come.  treat them all like you worked your ass off for them and you'll never be taken advantage of.

It's pretty clear that BFL has been cavalier with their "investor" funds, and have mismanaged this product to the Nth degree.  I refunded in February when they failed to meet their deadlines.  I hoped they would eventually make it right for those who were still in the game.  But it's freaking the end of May..  and things are moving pretty fast on the block chain.  They had claims of delivering by Christmas time last year!!!!!!  4.8 Ghash for a Jalepeno was like 7 times the amount of power I had at the time to mine.... now 4.8ghashs (or whatever it was) would produce a hell of a lot more BTC back then than it will today.

I wonder what the tipping point is for a mass refund request from the folks on here who are keeping this project funded.  Josh has proven to be incredibly unprofessional and justifies his unprofessional behavior with "well, you started it..."  -  Imagine that you went to a restaurant, and they made you wait 3 days for the meal you ordered.. its not a perfect analogy.  And the entire restaurant is getting irate... then the owner comes out insulting restaurant patrons with terms like "cock waffle" - I'm baffled that more people aren't opting out of this investment....

I'll get off my soap box now...  

I kind of feel like a dick for giving them any of my money... If only I had found that thread outing the CEO as a known and convicted scammer I wouldn't have.

I'm actually in the process of creating a new mining news site to compact this kind of information into something easy to see, a larger version of my Crypto Mining Vendor database in the Speculation area. With so many "BFL scam" threads it is difficult to pile through them all...

Unfortunately this problem is all over the place. Not a single other one aside Avalon or AsicMiner have delivered squat, and mostly either lie or are non-existent but are more than happy to take your money. Something must be done. The desire for ASIC has blinded so many to these frauds.

***********EVERY BFL THREAD EVER***************

OP: BFL is bad
FP: Yeah
*ten posts that i don't see because of ignore feature*
Inaba: no u
*10 pages of Josh vs. the world*

Like you were courteous and rational when you scammed people with your mail scam? Offense intended, you're a known scammer forgive our community if our trust is testy.
And your orders being late only exacerbates the situation. Before someone goes on about how everyone deserves a second chance yadayada. I don't believe that shit. I believe everyone gets a chance to prove themselves; to prove they've changed, and frankly you're an asshole and I don't trust you. You're out for greed and gain, and you don't give a fuck about what your miners are really doing to Bitcoin.
Bitcoin the currency that erodes the power away from the corporate paradigm and gives it back to the free-market. But no, you've fucked it. So forgive us if we don't want to bend over and grab our ankles for scumbags.

Autodidactic is one word; and it's not a form of schooling. 
I felt like the post merited an even a quasi-explanation for those new to the game.

so the people you scammed were dicks huh?

I have no idea who Bryan Micon is but BFL definitely made a PR tour de force in the video

Wow!  Just...wow!   

Holy shit mind f$#ked.
Thanks for the graphics to show it