FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019 - page 22.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 06, 2019, 02:33:47 AM

Can anyone briefly explain to me what the classification round for the first round losers is for? What do teams get from winning in this round? Will it play part in the qualification for 2020 Summer Olympics?

Here's a simple explanation from - https://in.nba.com/news/fiba-basketball-world-cup-second-round-classification-round-groups/mr9di77fb02i1oqt8dh2vzmpw

How does the Classification Round work?
The 16 teams that failed to advance out of the First Round drop down to the Classification Round - again, the results (and points) carry over.

If you are in the Classification Round you are eliminated from medaling at the World Cup, but are still competing for the chance to qualify for the 2020 Olympic Games in Tokyo.

Can someone explain too on how many teams will be qualified after the classification round? how many teams will be qualified for the 2020 Tokyo Olympic games?

Is it going to be just one team and who will ever win the whole bracket of classification round? there's still 4 groups that contains 4 teams each. 16 teams to compete so for all of those teams how many will advance for the Olympics? if someone knows the mechanics please explain and thank you in advance.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on September 05, 2019, 05:19:05 AM

Even if +27.5 for Japan, I will still not bet for that. They are up against the defending champ and they are not even near the top10 teams in the world so it obvious that team USA will dominate the match.

As expected, USA won the game against Japan and they dominated Japan.
Final score was 45 -98 USA and that -27.5 for the USA was easily covered as they won by a margin of 53 points.

Jaylen Brown was the leading scorer for the USA with 20 points from 9/15 shooting.
Stats of the game here http://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2019/game/0409/USA-Japan#tab=boxscore

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 06, 2019, 02:33:47 AM

Can anyone briefly explain to me what the classification round for the first round losers is for? What do teams get from winning in this round? Will it play part in the qualification for 2020 Summer Olympics?

Here's a simple explanation from - https://in.nba.com/news/fiba-basketball-world-cup-second-round-classification-round-groups/mr9di77fb02i1oqt8dh2vzmpw

How does the Classification Round work?
The 16 teams that failed to advance out of the First Round drop down to the Classification Round - again, the results (and points) carry over.

If you are in the Classification Round you are eliminated from medaling at the World Cup, but are still competing for the chance to qualify for the 2020 Olympic Games in Tokyo.

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Can anyone briefly explain to me what the classification round for the first round losers is for? What do teams get from winning in this round? Will it play part in the qualification for 2020 Summer Olympics?

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I was break-even with my bets yesterday. The Turkey - Czech Republic match really pulled me down. It was kind of a stunner. Turkey started off as the huge favorite. I placed a very safe -3.5 bet for Turkey with 1.60 odds. I was thinking it was safe all along, until the game began and Czech Republic came out with a really nice game. Made an even bigger ML bet on Turkey while the game was going on, thinking that they are still going to win the game. I was kind of surprised with the result.

Moving on, here are the matches for today:

Poland - Russia
Nigeria - Ivory Coast
Angola - Iran
Serbia - Puerto Rico
Argentina - Venezuela
Tunisia - Philippines
China - Republic of Korea
Spain - Italy

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Quote from: Ranly123 on September 05, 2019, 05:34:21 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 05, 2019, 01:05:04 PM

OK.. Anyone here still think that the United States remains as the favorites to win the tournament? I have short listed three nations: Serbia, Spain and the United States. I don't think that anyone else has a great deal of chance (including Greece and Australia). And I would say that out of these three, Serbia is having the maximum chances.

Those three nation's have great player but let's not forget about Australia. They are the black horse in this tournament and I think if USA and Serbia underestimate them, they would be in trouble.

I would definitely rank Australia as one of the favorites to win the world cup, along with Greece. But at the same time, let's not forget the fact that Greece lost their match against Brazil and New Zealand was able to give them a very tough fight. Lithuania can be a dark horse, but they are in second round with only 5 points after their loss to Australia. Someone had already pointed out that they need to beat France to proceed to QF.

IMO, I would rate 5 teams having a good chance of winning the world cup: US, Serbia, Spain, Australia and Greece. Dark horses are France, Lithuania, and Brazil. And while everyone is talking about the USA vs Greece match, in my opinion the most exciting match in the second round is going to be Serbia vs Spain in Group J. It is a very tough group, with Italy also placed there.

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Quote from: Rozita on September 05, 2019, 06:29:55 PM

Italy won't be an easy opponent for Spain. The match will be likely close.
However Spain has qualified for the second round as one the group winners, but their performance in first round was not good. They won both Iran and Puerto Rico with trouble. Spain's opponents were weak teams. If Spain play against Italy like the past matches, they would certainly loss the game.

You are right, this Spain and Italy match-up would be close but as i observe lately games are somewhat unpredictable so for bettors like us it would be best or safe if take the positive handicap. I would bet for Italy here with a 5.5 handicap for 1.91 odds. Somehow safe for me, hope FIBA would be nice to me in the second.

I'm with you mate, I love Italy to win that's why I will be taking the moneyline.
If we want to win back our loses, we should go with a better odds and the way Italy is playing, I think they can compete well with the Spain, although they loss big time against Serbia. It's a good bet to parlay both ML for Greece and Italy, too risky but the reward looks very attractive, let's spare a little on this.

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Quote from: Rozita on September 05, 2019, 06:29:55 PM

Italy won't be an easy opponent for Spain. The match will be likely close.
However Spain has qualified for the second round as one the group winners, but their performance in first round was not good. They won both Iran and Puerto Rico with trouble. Spain's opponents were weak teams. If Spain play against Italy like the past matches, they would certainly loss the game.

You are right, this Spain and Italy match-up would be close but as i observe lately games are somewhat unpredictable so for bettors like us it would be best or safe if take the positive handicap. I would bet for Italy here with a 5.5 handicap for 1.91 odds. Somehow safe for me, hope FIBA would be nice to me in the second round.

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Quote from: efialtis on September 05, 2019, 03:54:13 PM

I cant wait for GRE vs USA... never forget, we were the ones to beat the US guys in their last loss many years ago! Cheesy

I even think their play style may suit us (GIANNIS to be exact). =)

I think I'm going to place by bet on Giannis and his squad.
The current line looks very attractive for the Greece which is 4.40 while the USA is only 1.21.

Will also add +8.5 for Greece, in case they mess up a bit, but I believe at least they will be able to cover this line.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on September 05, 2019, 10:14:50 AM

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Your "predictions" are wrong. Game between turkey and chezchs are over, Turkey already lost. So you are not only wrong but also wrong while the results are already in.

My bad. I actually don't know the time of the game and I was away from my computer when I posted the message but the rest of my predictions work out fine Grin

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on September 05, 2019, 08:34:06 AM

I think most of you guys underrated the Brazilian team in the tournament which is why their winning against Greece catch you off guard.

Honestly, I've missed the other games for the other brackets of this tourney. Is it really that Brazil team was underrated by most before the tournament started?

To be honest, I'm very impress with their standings.

Yes, they were somehow underrated and most sports lovers believe the Brazilians are only good when it comes to football. But, the Brazilian to face the US in the second round will be a tough game and I don't think the Brazilian will make it through.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on September 05, 2019, 08:34:06 AM

But the Greece will win their todays game. My own predictions for today's game are as below.

6. Greece vs New Zealand: Greece

Congrats, Greece just won. Are you a fan of Giannis as well?

I'm a fan and it nice to see Greece making it to the second round.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on September 05, 2019, 06:21:17 PM

Our loss to Australia can cost a lot for us. Now we will have to beat both France and Dominican Republic to reach 1/4 final. Today it was very bad match for us, but 4th was positive, we had chance to win this game...
I didn't expected that Czech Republic will reach next round, they have nothing impressive in their squad. It would be different team with Jan Vesely (Euroleague MVP).
On Friday we see 2 interesting matches between Spain - Italy and Poland Russia. I expext Spain win, while other match can be tricky.

Italy won't be an easy opponent for Spain. The match will be likely close.
However Spain has qualified for the second round as one the group winners, but their performance in first round was not good. They won both Iran and Puerto Rico with trouble. Spain's opponents were weak teams. If Spain play against Italy like the past matches, they would certainly loss the game.

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Our loss to Australia can cost a lot for us. Now we will have to beat both France and Dominican Republic to reach 1/4 final. Today it was very bad match for us, but 4th was positive, we had chance to win this game...
I didn't expected that Czech Republic will reach next round, they have nothing impressive in their squad. It would be different team with Jan Vesely (Euroleague MVP).
On Friday we see 2 interesting matches between Spain - Italy and Poland Russia. I expext Spain win, while other match can be tricky.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 05, 2019, 01:05:04 PM

OK.. Anyone here still think that the United States remains as the favorites to win the tournament? I have short listed three nations: Serbia, Spain and the United States. I don't think that anyone else has a great deal of chance (including Greece and Australia). And I would say that out of these three, Serbia is having the maximum chances.

Those three nation's have great player but let's not forget about Australia. They are the black horse in this tournament and I think if USA and Serbia underestimate them, they would be in trouble.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 05, 2019, 01:05:04 PM

OK.. Anyone here still think that the United States remains as the favorites to win the tournament? I have short listed three nations: Serbia, Spain and the United States. I don't think that anyone else has a great deal of chance (including Greece and Australia). And I would say that out of these three, Serbia is having the maximum chances.

I still think that it would Serbia vs USA in the finals and the US team would be having a hard time beating the Serbs. But still i would put my money on the US team, they could win it all and the winnings for the US fans would be bigger this time.

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Quote from: efialtis on September 05, 2019, 03:54:13 PM

I cant wait for GRE vs USA... never forget, we were the ones to beat the US guys in their last loss many years ago! Cheesy

I even think their play style may suit us (GIANNIS to be exact). =)

Sept. 7 is the date.

--> https://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2019/game/0709/USA-Greece

Many awaits for this clash. Tongue

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I cant wait for GRE vs USA... never forget, we were the ones to beat the US guys in their last loss many years ago! Cheesy

I even think their play style may suit us (GIANNIS to be exact). =)

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The last unexpected match of the group stage for me was Lithuania - Australia. I didn't expect 11th team of FIFA world ranking can manage to win the match over 6th team. The performance of Lithuania against Senegal and Canada was better than Australia. Lithuania had won the past matches easier than Australia. This fact and also the higher rank of Lithuania caused me to bet on Lithuania.
Even after the victory of Australia against Lithuania, the point difference of Lithuania is still higher. It shows that Australia's performance had been really improved.
This loss also affect the Lithuania's chance of advancing to quarter finals. Now advancing to quarterfinals is really difficult for Lithuania. For advancing, they have to win France. I don't think they are able to that.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 05, 2019, 01:05:04 PM

OK.. Anyone here still think that the United States remains as the favorites to win the tournament? I have short listed three nations: Serbia, Spain and the United States. I don't think that anyone else has a great deal of chance (including Greece and Australia). And I would say that out of these three, Serbia is having the maximum chances.

I think so too. If you just have shortlisted it my stand is for all on the group that have no loss that's what I am sided for but still USA remains at the top on my list. There's nothing to underestimate those who have just lost 1 on every group they might take some snatch win besides it back to zero during quarterfinals.

Greece for sure is still lethal never to underestimate them as they might still have chance to win the quarterfinals over group F.

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OK.. Anyone here still think that the United States remains as the favorites to win the tournament? I have short listed three nations: Serbia, Spain and the United States. I don't think that anyone else has a great deal of chance (including Greece and Australia). And I would say that out of these three, Serbia is having the maximum chances.

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Quote from: morvillz7z on September 05, 2019, 12:12:04 PM

Quote from: rosezionjohn on September 05, 2019, 12:04:51 PM

If both Serbia and USA tops their respective group then wins their QF match, they will be meeting in the SF according to the brackets.

Are you sure about that? I think they will meet in the finals, not the semis. Hmm let me check again...

Nah, I was wrong. My eyes are a bit tired when I was looking at the bracket. It's either SF or Finals depending on how they finish the group (and win their QF match). I edited my comment before your post.

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