FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019 - page 37.

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Quote from: efialtis on August 28, 2019, 01:21:11 PM

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In another friendly today, Germany won with 10pts difference vs Australia - the Germans have some good quality this year.

Personally, I believe that Australia has a better team than Germany.
It was just that Australian coach was trying new strategies in the game and they lost.
I don't think that Germany would do a lot in the world cup tournament, nothing special or quality in this team.

Thats totally wrong - just in my opinion of course - but Germans dominated them and were stronger on all positions. Have you watched the match? I am sure you didnt... Wink

Most of time friendly games never near to real games because mostly coaches try to experiments so this game is nothing to talk about quality of teams this was just for practices real could be in next few days where we can talk about quality of every team.

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Quote from: spadormie on August 28, 2019, 02:52:43 PM

Quote from: mirakal on August 28, 2019, 12:32:57 AM

To all the Gilas fans out there, what do you think about the upcoming first game between Philippines and Italy.

This are the line offered in my sportsbook..

Philippines to win 13 , Italy to win 1.03.
Philippines +17.5 , Italy -17.5..

What do you think about the Philippines ML? This is so tempting for me.... Grin

The only thing that can make you win this bet is luck. PURE LUCK. Since many of our key players were injured and some key players rejected playing for their own country, this could be a devastating world cup for us. Don't get me wrong but Yeng Guiao's lineup is THE BEST we can get. Probably they can win the game if players from Italy will have a bad game.

Even though Italy isn't a top 10 team in FIBA they still are a better team compared to what the Philippines have since aside from them having two NBA players in the roster the rest of their squad consists of players playing in the Euroleague which compared to the Filipino players we have all play in a much lower standard competition in the PBA even Blatche's CBA league cannot match the standard of what the Euroleague can bring. If the Philippines really wants to even have a chance to win the game they need to change on how they play and pick up their mistakes when they have fought Australia which completely destroyed them.

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Quote from: mirakal on August 28, 2019, 12:32:57 AM

To all the Gilas fans out there, what do you think about the upcoming first game between Philippines and Italy.

This are the line offered in my sportsbook..

Philippines to win 13 , Italy to win 1.03.
Philippines +17.5 , Italy -17.5..

What do you think about the Philippines ML? This is so tempting for me.... Grin

The only thing that can make you win this bet is luck. PURE LUCK. Since many of our key players were injured and some key players rejected playing for their own country, this could be a devastating world cup for us. Don't get me wrong but Yeng Guiao's lineup is THE BEST we can get. Probably they can win the game if players from Italy will have a bad game.

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Quote from: efialtis on August 28, 2019, 01:21:11 PM

Quote from: Naida_BR on August 28, 2019, 01:12:21 PM

Quote from: efialtis on August 28, 2019, 11:00:21 AM

In another friendly today, Germany won with 10pts difference vs Australia - the Germans have some good quality this year.

Personally, I believe that Australia has a better team than Germany.
It was just that Australian coach was trying new strategies in the game and they lost.
I don't think that Germany would do a lot in the world cup tournament, nothing special or quality in this team.

Thats totally wrong - just in my opinion of course - but Germans dominated them and were stronger on all positions. Have you watched the match? I am sure you didnt... Wink

Indeed, your opinion and I totally respect it.
I am just pointing the fact that Germany might dominate the friendly match.
Australia has a lot of stars in the roster and I consider them a better team.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on August 28, 2019, 01:12:21 PM

Quote from: efialtis on August 28, 2019, 11:00:21 AM

In another friendly today, Germany won with 10pts difference vs Australia - the Germans have some good quality this year.

Personally, I believe that Australia has a better team than Germany.
It was just that Australian coach was trying new strategies in the game and they lost.
I don't think that Germany would do a lot in the world cup tournament, nothing special or quality in this team.

Thats totally wrong - just in my opinion of course - but Germans dominated them and were stronger on all positions. Have you watched the match? I am sure you didnt... Wink

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It is quite normal that nowadays European players get to play in USA a lot early and that means they develop better there and get paid there. Don't be confused just because those players are from Europe doesn't mean they are who they are thanks to Europe as well, USA and NBA made them who they are and developed their skills.

Most basically Jokic hasn't been in the NBA for 10+ years, he is sort of new (how long has he been around 4-5 years max?) but considering how he used to be when he first came here and how he is right now you can see the improvement.

The deal is back in 90's and anything before that, players from Europe only got a great name in Europe and became very good and then they went to NBA because they were good, nowadays NBA scouts young players from Europe and drafts them as well just so they could develop and these Europeans do not come to NBA at age 28+, they get drafted at 19 and that means by the time they are 29 they went through 2 contracts at 4 season length and if they are any decent they start to make a ton of money.

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Quote from: efialtis on August 28, 2019, 11:00:21 AM

In another friendly today, Germany won with 10pts difference vs Australia - the Germans have some good quality this year.

Personally, I believe that Australia has a better team than Germany.
It was just that Australian coach was trying new strategies in the game and they lost.
I don't think that Germany would do a lot in the world cup tournament, nothing special or quality in this team.

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Quote from: spadormie on August 28, 2019, 12:32:52 PM

Quote from: Ranly123 on August 28, 2019, 12:11:33 PM

Quote from: efialtis on August 28, 2019, 11:00:21 AM

In another friendly today, Germany won with 10pts difference vs Australia - the Germans have some good quality this year.

It's just a friendly game dude and nothing special whether a win or a lose. I expect nothing more on German team than lose on the process.

A friendly game is also considered as a scrimmage in which they don't intend to lose to showoff their game. There is something special on that since it's part of their preparation for the upcoming FIBA World Cup. It's isn't nice to see some countries battling other countries national team while your own country is just battling some other team that is not a national basketball team. Just a normal team in a league.

Coaches have their own perspectives when playing friendly competitions against other teams, whether they win or lose they got something to add with their plans and preparations, most of the time the losing team will study the system where they are lacking and try to fill it up with new sets of game play that will be fit for such situations, everything have a reasons not just to compete but also to learned different ideas to keep improving the team.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on August 28, 2019, 12:11:33 PM

Quote from: efialtis on August 28, 2019, 11:00:21 AM

In another friendly today, Germany won with 10pts difference vs Australia - the Germans have some good quality this year.

It's just a friendly game dude and nothing special whether a win or a lose. I expect nothing more on German team than lose on the process.

A friendly game is also considered as a scrimmage in which they don't intend to lose to showoff their game. There is something special on that since it's part of their preparation for the upcoming FIBA World Cup. It's isn't nice to see some countries battling other countries national team while your own country is just battling some other team that is not a national basketball team. Just a normal team in a league.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on August 28, 2019, 12:11:33 PM

Quote from: efialtis on August 28, 2019, 11:00:21 AM

In another friendly today, Germany won with 10pts difference vs Australia - the Germans have some good quality this year.

It's just a friendly game dude and nothing special whether a win or a lose. I expect nothing more on German team than lose on the process.

And why is that? Have you had a look at their roster?

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Quote from: efialtis on August 28, 2019, 11:00:21 AM

In another friendly today, Germany won with 10pts difference vs Australia - the Germans have some good quality this year.

It's just a friendly game dude and nothing special whether a win or a lose. I expect nothing more on German team than lose on the process.

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In another friendly today, Germany won with 10pts difference vs Australia - the Germans have some good quality this year.

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Does anyone have any information about Côte d'Ivoire and how many friendlies they played so far? ~~I found just two~~ v. Italy back in July and a couple of weeks ago v. Spain. Most teams had three times as many games to get ready and prepare for the tournament. I am asking because I went ahead and placed an early bet in favor of China - 1st Half China (-5.5) @ 1.78 /boosted.

China number 1 Grin

edit; Nevermind, they played a few more games (all losses) to Algeria, Kenya, Mali, and the Philippines.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on August 27, 2019, 07:36:55 AM

It would be France vs Greece in the quaterfinals and Greece will won that game Wink

, so they will complete the semi-finalist together with Spain, US and Serbia for this year's FIBA World Cup. Greece will be there in the semis, they are just so pumped up and i think @efialtis will agree with me Grin

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My prediction for semi-finals is as follows:

SF1: Spain vs USA
SF2: Greece vs United States

The fourth quarter final in all probability is going to be between Greece and Australia and actually I can't discount the chances of an upset. Greece is recently having issues with injuries and lack of team bonding. If Australia manages to upset Greece, then the second semi-final will be between Australia and the United States. And US went down to Australia a few days back.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on August 28, 2019, 04:31:54 AM

Quote from: mirakal on August 28, 2019, 12:32:57 AM

To all the Gilas fans out there, what do you think about the upcoming first game between Philippines and Italy.

This are the line offered in my sportsbook..

Philippines to win 13 , Italy to win 1.03.
Philippines +17.5 , Italy -17.5..

What do you think about the Philippines ML? This is so tempting for me.... Grin

I have to agree with @Distinctin here, we better take the +17.5 handicap as their roster has big names like Marco Belinelli and Danilo Gallinari. Too risky to bet for ML but would bet a small amount just for fun in case an upset happens and the Gilas squad will treat this game like a final since this would bring them to the second round if they win.

A small bet would do, that x13 odds can still be increase if he will use a price boost in spotsbet. (checking now, I will get 14.20 with price boost)
here's the betting line, https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/basketball/international/fiba-world-cup/philippines-italy-5d5a95cbf2a829e6af592614

Bet on it now because the line changes, Philippines is also good but they have to be very lucky to beat a better team like Italy.
This is going to be a big upset in FIBA if Philippines win.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on August 28, 2019, 04:54:42 AM

Quote from: efialtis on August 26, 2019, 05:34:19 PM

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Quote from: efialtis on August 26, 2019, 03:55:38 PM

I am with you man - by now I am quite confident the USA are NOT going to win the WC this time! =)

I looked at the line odds on bookies to see if Team USA's odds increase when they lost that game against Australia but still it is 1.45 for them to win the title. People still believe on them to win though they are vulnerable and with that loss they may have waken a giant.

If you watch them play you will notice they are NOT a giant... Cheesy

Well, we will see, they still are the favorites but betting on them just makes no sense.

Maybe for you it doesn't make sense but for most people, USA is still the team to beat even though NBA superstars withdraw from playing in the FIBA competition.

We will see... again: they are favs of course BUT... and there is a big BUT... there are teams even stronger than them this time... thats my 2 cents.

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Quote from: efialtis on August 26, 2019, 05:34:19 PM

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Quote from: efialtis on August 26, 2019, 03:55:38 PM

I am with you man - by now I am quite confident the USA are NOT going to win the WC this time! =)

I looked at the line odds on bookies to see if Team USA's odds increase when they lost that game against Australia but still it is 1.45 for them to win the title. People still believe on them to win though they are vulnerable and with that loss they may have waken a giant.

If you watch them play you will notice they are NOT a giant... Cheesy

Well, we will see, they still are the favorites but betting on them just makes no sense.

Maybe for you it doesn't make sense but for most people, USA is still the team to beat even though NBA superstars withdraw from playing in the FIBA competition.

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Quote from: mirakal on August 28, 2019, 12:32:57 AM

To all the Gilas fans out there, what do you think about the upcoming first game between Philippines and Italy.

This are the line offered in my sportsbook..

Philippines to win 13 , Italy to win 1.03.
Philippines +17.5 , Italy -17.5..

What do you think about the Philippines ML? This is so tempting for me.... Grin

ML is a trick while handicap can give some chance winning if PH able to get close against this giants though it's still a big challenge to the entire squad, much better to stay safe and watch the game and enjoy instead of betting and be stressed once you fail to pick the right choice, I'll be glad to see PH team to try harder fighting with the guys that left for this team.

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Quote from: mirakal on August 28, 2019, 12:32:57 AM

To all the Gilas fans out there, what do you think about the upcoming first game between Philippines and Italy.

This are the line offered in my sportsbook..

Philippines to win 13 , Italy to win 1.03.
Philippines +17.5 , Italy -17.5..

What do you think about the Philippines ML? This is so tempting for me.... Grin

I have to agree with @Distinctin here, we better take the +17.5 handicap as their roster has big names like Marco Belinelli and Danilo Gallinari. Too risky to bet for ML but would bet a small amount just for fun in case an upset happens and the Gilas squad will treat this game like a final since this would bring them to the second round if they win.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on August 27, 2019, 01:31:44 PM

Most teams had played their final preparation games today and announced their 12 players who will play in World Cup. Results:
Greece 74:51 Venezuela, Serbia 61:56 France, Lithuania 82:79 Czech Republic, Spain 84:76 Argentina.From what I saw some teams still aren't playing their best game, they arrived to China recently and they have to adapt to new timezone. And it would be stupid to open all cards just few days before World Cup.

Some interesting numbers. Here is 15 players in Wolrd Cup with biggest contracts, 11 of 15 players are from Europe. It's a bit strange that Vucevic have bigger contract than Giannis and Jokic. But probably next Giannis contract will become one of the biggest in NBA.

Yearly wage. Numbers in USD. Source: Basketnews.lt

Indeed, the "official" games will be a different story - cant wait! Regarding Giannis´s contract: His next one will be astronomic and he is already the biggest earning Greek athlete ever!

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