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July 16, 2022, 08:20:38 AM
Brazil and Argentina are tough challengers for them and from these two any team can reach into final and won this event its possibility.

Brazil seems to come this year with a good squad. although it is very difficult to see Brazil's past performances return. because football is growing quite rapidly in Europe and Asia.
this year my favorite is still Brazil. because I've always been a Brazil fan. although disappointed in the form a few events ago. but in Qatar, they bring great hope.
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July 16, 2022, 08:08:21 AM
For the World Cup title, I wonder how much Brazil and Argentina are going to determined. I have a big expectation from Brazil especially. They have started to impress me quite a lot. They have one of the best squads in this tournament. The thing they need the most is having a solid game plan for the biggest tournament in the world. It would be nice to see them in the final playing against a European team for the title.
In this World Cup, it is clear that Brazil is one of the favorite countries again after several times they have always been excluded.
Their performance was absolutely insane in the qualifiers which made them the top seed and I also actually give high hopes to Brazil considering that with their current players the performance they aim for in the qualifiers will add to their popularity in the title contenders.
Brazil is always favorite in World Cup even they are having not good performance in last 2 decades, so maybe this is trap or bookmakers tactics like we have from them in Champions League every year three teams at top with hot favorite tag even these teams not reaching into final, but they are eating good money for this all.

There is no doubt Brazil is one of the most amazing team in soccer history, and they produced few extraordinary players in this game, but recently they are having no class like past which is surely a concern for them but now in this event too much talk happening about them which is having something special about them with most chances European are going to dominant in last two decades and this year again they have few good teams.

Brazil and Argentina are tough challengers for them and from these two any team can reach into final and won this event its possibility.
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July 15, 2022, 11:39:27 PM
I don’t see anything fair in this (adding Europe 3 teams while the rest of the world gets 13), the situation will become even worse than it was - the last team from Europe (which did not make it to the championship, roughly 17th in strength) will still be stronger than all the teams from some regions (which did make it to the championship). That's bullshit. I want to see the final part of the World Championship as a serious competition and not as an international festival.
And I also hate the format of the qualifying tournament in Africa when the teams are forced to play a knockout match. This guarantees that 50% of the strongest teams will be eliminated from the tournament. I think the selection system should be changed here.

Well.. somewhere you need to find a balance. Both the factors need to be considered. Stronger teams needs to qualify, and at the same time there should be adequate representation from all the geographies. In my previous posts, one of the options that I put forward was to have a global qualifying system for the second phase, rather than the confederation-based tournaments. The first set of 32 teams can be selected from the region-based qualifiers. But for the remaining 16 teams, there should be a global qualifier tournament. This will make sure that only the stronger teams get qualification.
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July 15, 2022, 08:54:43 PM
For the World Cup title, I wonder how much Brazil and Argentina are going to determined. I have a big expectation from Brazil especially. They have started to impress me quite a lot. They have one of the best squads in this tournament. The thing they need the most is having a solid game plan for the biggest tournament in the world. It would be nice to see them in the final playing against a European team for the title.

In fact, I'm also rooting for a final between Brazil and a European team... there are several interesting candidates, but I'd like to see him face France, Portugal or England.
Of course, a final between Brazil and Argentina would be classic and very interesting, but Brazil lost to Argentina in the Conmebol America Cup, and I wouldn't like to see that happen again in the FIFA world cup.

Finally... I hope Brazil doesn't face Germany, because the memory of him losing 7x1 still gives me nightmares.
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July 15, 2022, 05:40:56 PM
For the World Cup title, I wonder how much Brazil and Argentina are going to determined. I have a big expectation from Brazil especially. They have started to impress me quite a lot. They have one of the best squads in this tournament. The thing they need the most is having a solid game plan for the biggest tournament in the world. It would be nice to see them in the final playing against a European team for the title.
In this World Cup, it is clear that Brazil is one of the favorite countries again after several times they have always been excluded.
Their performance was absolutely insane in the qualifiers which made them the top seed and I also actually give high hopes to Brazil considering that with their current players the performance they aim for in the qualifiers will add to their popularity in the title contenders.
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July 15, 2022, 05:33:19 PM
The team that I hope a lot is from Japan, I don't know but since Japan had those legendary players I really liked their way of playing, I don't know if they remember Nakata, and from that spectacular World Cup that was in France 98, in fact they had such star players at the time that they made the iconic Nike commercial.
Japan may not have much chance against giants like Germany or Spain, but anything is possible in football. Despite never advancing past the Round of 16 at a World Cup, Japan is a strong contender to go one step further this time. And with players with Premier League experience, like Takumi Minamino and Takehiro Tomiyasu, Japan may have a chance.

The World Cup has produced many of the most enduring football heroes of the modern era, and Japan's Minamino or Tomiyasu may well join them.
In recent time we have good development in Japan but still they are not good enough for competing against tough teams from Europe and South America because recently I was watching one match against Costa Rica which they lost badly because they were far ahead from them in quality but still good things happening, and they are taking good experience from UEFA clubs and many players are giving their best with in next world cup they are in tough group where they have few chances but still as we all know any result is possible on match day.

In last few years, we have only two teams which are on well development in AFC and these are Japan and South Korea, third is Australia, but these all need some good time for having good future in this game.
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July 15, 2022, 03:23:49 PM
For the World Cup title, I wonder how much Brazil and Argentina are going to determined. I have a big expectation from Brazil especially. They have started to impress me quite a lot. They have one of the best squads in this tournament. The thing they need the most is having a solid game plan for the biggest tournament in the world. It would be nice to see them in the final playing against a European team for the title.
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July 15, 2022, 03:12:22 PM
The team that I hope a lot is from Japan, I don't know but since Japan had those legendary players I really liked their way of playing, I don't know if they remember Nakata, and from that spectacular World Cup that was in France 98, in fact they had such star players at the time that they made the iconic Nike commercial.

Japan may not have much chance against giants like Germany or Spain, but anything is possible in football. Despite never advancing past the Round of 16 at a World Cup, Japan is a strong contender to go one step further this time. And with players with Premier League experience, like Takumi Minamino and Takehiro Tomiyasu, Japan may have a chance.

The World Cup has produced many of the most enduring football heroes of the modern era, and Japan's Minamino or Tomiyasu may well join them.
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July 15, 2022, 08:36:00 AM
If I remember correctly, the expansion of the number of participants is carried out mainly not by increasing the number of teams from Europe, but by increasing the number of teams from other regions. Therefore, although the situation will improve, there will still be a chance that several very strong teams from Europe will not get into the final part. And the fact that interest in the tournament is falling is obvious to everyone except officials. There is no point in watching most group games, they are completely pointless.

Europe's representation is being increased by +3. So you can't really say that UEFA is being ignored during the expansion. A total of 16 new slots are created and out of that 3 is from Europe. I believe that it is fair. But CONMEBOL got a very unfair deal. They are the strongest confederation out there and for them, the increase is just +1.5. For the 2026 World Cup, there will be 6 teams from CONMEBOL. I would have liked at least 7 teams from that confederation. Everytime, a number of strong teams from South America miss out on qualification. 

I don’t see anything fair in this (adding Europe 3 teams while the rest of the world gets 13), the situation will become even worse than it was - the last team from Europe (which did not make it to the championship, roughly 17th in strength) will still be stronger than all the teams from some regions (which did make it to the championship). That's bullshit. I want to see the final part of the World Championship as a serious competition and not as an international festival.
And I also hate the format of the qualifying tournament in Africa when the teams are forced to play a knockout match. This guarantees that 50% of the strongest teams will be eliminated from the tournament. I think the selection system should be changed here.
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July 14, 2022, 09:59:22 PM
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So to answer @Sithara007, CONMEBOL teams have a chance of 63.3% of qualifying to World Cup which is x2 European teams chances and x3.5 at least the rest of the world chances which is ridiculous and unfair imo regarding that this competition is dintended to allow most countries of the world get a chance to qualify and play internationally vs other teams in different continents. Otherwise, UEFA could pick 22 best teams + 10 CONMEBOL ones and they form Bi-Continental Cup that would way better to watch than current World Cup.
What makes WC (World Cup Roll Eyes ) good is when you see surprises and weaker teams advance instead of favourite bigger ones.

It is unfair to the CONMEBOL teams given their quality. They are a hundred times better than any of the AFC or CAF teams. Do you really think that the top teams from AFC, such as Saudi Arabia, China and South Korea would stand a chance against the weakest teams from CONMEBOL (Bolivia, Venezuela.etc)? Anyway, I am OK with the current allocation, in which 6 teams come from CONMEBOL and 16 from the UEFA. Other confederations still have 26 slots between them and there is no point in complaining.
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July 14, 2022, 08:06:57 PM
I think it's better when a couple of strong teams miss the tournament due to the high level of competition than when the tournament turns into a huge number of meaningless games (due to a large difference in the teams' classes) and interesting games can only be expected in the 1/4 finals. Even in the current tournament, the group stage will not be very interesting, and in the next one everything will be much worse.

Again, I need to disagree with you. We are already having meaningless games. Even top ranked teams from AFC and CAF are unable to compete against teams from CONMEBOL and UEFA. I will give you one example. Remember the Russia vs Saudi Arabia match during last world cup? (inaugural match). Russia destroyed Saudi Arabia with a 5-0 margin. Now Russia is not a top ranking team from the UEFA. And yet the match was completely one sided, despite the fact that Saudi Arabia is one of the strongest AFC teams.

Then I do not understand why you write that you do not agree with me? You repeat what I write: too many pointless games. And taking into account the change in the format of the World Cup, there will be much more of them. My opinion is that the old format is better, and it would be even better to switch to a new format where there are no weak teams at all in the final part. And I do not agree with the fact that, for example, African teams are weak - there have often been good teams from this region in history that have performed well at the World Cups - Nigeria, Cameroon, Senegal, etc.
Well what happens is that we are used to seeing high-caliber games, in Europe all the games are exciting for me, just like in Conmebol, which for me is the most difficult tie in the world due to the enormous effort that is experienced both the teams and the players, of course I know that the Europeans will say that the most difficult is UEFA, but it is not the same to play in European stadiums, than to leave a relatively high country like Bolivia where the height takes away your breathing and it demands a lot of your lungs and after 2 days go to Venezuela in Maracaibo where the temperature is always very high, above 38°C, those are the things that make it more difficult and the only trip, even if it is by plane, exhausts .

I dont think Asian teams can do something on this world cup they just dont have that quality. Maybe they can advance the group somehow but thats the max i see from them. I still dont see how players will survive the hot weather in Qatar on world cup
Yes, the temperature is obviously going to be a problem for certain players from certain countries. But the players will have to adapt.

Personally, I don't think any team from Asia is going to be doing very well. By doing very well I mean reaching the semi-finals of the world cup at least. But I do have hopes that they will perform more effectively than before. Korea holds the most promise for me. But realistically I don't think they will even reach the semi-finals. I see the leading contenders for this world cup as Croatia, France, England, Brazil, Argentina, and probably Germany. I am really looking forward to seeing a really stellar performance from Argentina this time.
I agree about Asian teams because I am watching few countries closely for years and now feeling Asians are at bottom if we bring things by regions with Africans are also having much better quality from them and here we are not having any quality team just usual Japan and Korea are doing some better performance for decades and all others facing problems recently we have Australia which is also good but still need some good time for having better results.

Here about favorite team nothing is predictable because we have four months left in this event and now after few weeks European new soccer season is going to start which is also going to have big impact on this world cup because any injury or other trouble can bring down any team as if any good player is going to have things like this here before world cup.
The team that I hope a lot is from Japan, I don't know but since Japan had those legendary players I really liked their way of playing, I don't know if they remember Nakata, and from that spectacular World Cup that was in France 98, in fact they had such star players at the time that they made the iconic Nike commercial.
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July 14, 2022, 05:18:18 PM
I dont think Asian teams can do something on this world cup they just dont have that quality. Maybe they can advance the group somehow but thats the max i see from them. I still dont see how players will survive the hot weather in Qatar on world cup
Yes, the temperature is obviously going to be a problem for certain players from certain countries. But the players will have to adapt.

Personally, I don't think any team from Asia is going to be doing very well. By doing very well I mean reaching the semi-finals of the world cup at least. But I do have hopes that they will perform more effectively than before. Korea holds the most promise for me. But realistically I don't think they will even reach the semi-finals. I see the leading contenders for this world cup as Croatia, France, England, Brazil, Argentina, and probably Germany. I am really looking forward to seeing a really stellar performance from Argentina this time.
I agree about Asian teams because I am watching few countries closely for years and now feeling Asians are at bottom if we bring things by regions with Africans are also having much better quality from them and here we are not having any quality team just usual Japan and Korea are doing some better performance for decades and all others facing problems recently we have Australia which is also good but still need some good time for having better results.

Here about favorite team nothing is predictable because we have four months left in this event and now after few weeks European new soccer season is going to start which is also going to have big impact on this world cup because any injury or other trouble can bring down any team as if any good player is going to have things like this here before world cup.
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July 14, 2022, 05:15:56 PM
If I remember correctly, the expansion of the number of participants is carried out mainly not by increasing the number of teams from Europe, but by increasing the number of teams from other regions. Therefore, although the situation will improve, there will still be a chance that several very strong teams from Europe will not get into the final part. And the fact that interest in the tournament is falling is obvious to everyone except officials. There is no point in watching most group games, they are completely pointless.
UEFA has 55 members in which 13 will play in Qatar (23.6%)
CAF has 54 members in which only 5 will participate (9.2%)
AFC has 46 members / 6 on Qatar (13%)
CONCACAF has 35 members / 4 on (11.4%)
OFC = 11 members / 0
CONMEBOL has 10 members / 4 on (40%)
This is before the expansion and since 1998, you can see clearly which teams in different confederations are considered luckier than the others. (slight change of pourcentage could be made since I didn't count 0.5 possibilities).
What happened with the new 48 proposal is to double the number of CAF, AFC, OFC and CONCACAF members allowed to join World Cup but increasing the number of CONMEBOL to 6.3 and UEFA to 16 made them favourites.
So to answer @Sithara007, CONMEBOL teams have a chance of 63.3% of qualifying to World Cup which is x2 European teams chances and x3.5 at least the rest of the world chances which is ridiculous and unfair imo regarding that this competition is dintended to allow most countries of the world get a chance to qualify and play internationally vs other teams in different continents. Otherwise, UEFA could pick 22 best teams + 10 CONMEBOL ones and they form Bi-Continental Cup that would way better to watch than current World Cup.
What makes WC (World Cup Roll Eyes ) good is when you see surprises and weaker teams advance instead of favourite bigger ones.
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July 14, 2022, 05:01:48 PM
I just realized that for the first time there were six teams from Asia (AFC) who managed to advance to the world cup. I think this is new history. I have high hopes for South Korea and Japan in this world cup. although the real challenge will definitely be felt for Korea and Japan because considering Qatar is a pretty hot country so I hope it won't be a problem. even some of my brothers who work in qatar say it's so hot there even at work there is someone who installs air conditioning outside the room. This will definitely be a challenge for a team from a country that has cold temperatures.

I dont think Asian teams can do something on this world cup they just dont have that quality. Maybe they can advance the group somehow but thats the max i see from them. I still dont see how players will survive the hot weather in Qatar on world cup
But at least having them at the World Cup will definitely boost some of their players, which is actually quite doable considering that when we talk about big leagues, it's actually very rare to have players from Asia, even if there are only counting fingers.
With their participation in the world cup, although it is indeed very difficult to compete, this will be more leverage for some players because all eyes will surely be on this big event which does not rule out some surprises in it.
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July 14, 2022, 04:56:05 PM
I just realized that for the first time there were six teams from Asia (AFC) who managed to advance to the world cup. I think this is new history. I have high hopes for South Korea and Japan in this world cup. although the real challenge will definitely be felt for Korea and Japan because considering Qatar is a pretty hot country so I hope it won't be a problem. even some of my brothers who work in qatar say it's so hot there even at work there is someone who installs air conditioning outside the room. This will definitely be a challenge for a team from a country that has cold temperatures.
I dont think Asian teams can do something on this world cup they just dont have that quality. Maybe they can advance the group somehow but thats the max i see from them. I still dont see how players will survive the hot weather in Qatar on world cup

Yes, the temperature is obviously going to be a problem for certain players from certain countries. But the players will have to adapt.

Personally, I don't think any team from Asia is going to be doing very well. By doing very well I mean reaching the semi-finals of the world cup at least. But I do have hopes that they will perform more effectively than before. Korea holds the most promise for me. But realistically I don't think they will even reach the semi-finals. I see the leading contenders for this world cup as Croatia, France, England, Brazil, Argentina, and probably Germany. I am really looking forward to seeing a really stellar performance from Argentina this time.
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July 14, 2022, 04:32:08 PM
I just realized that for the first time there were six teams from Asia (AFC) who managed to advance to the world cup. I think this is new history. I have high hopes for South Korea and Japan in this world cup. although the real challenge will definitely be felt for Korea and Japan because considering Qatar is a pretty hot country so I hope it won't be a problem. even some of my brothers who work in qatar say it's so hot there even at work there is someone who installs air conditioning outside the room. This will definitely be a challenge for a team from a country that has cold temperatures.

I dont think Asian teams can do something on this world cup they just dont have that quality. Maybe they can advance the group somehow but thats the max i see from them. I still dont see how players will survive the hot weather in Qatar on world cup
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July 14, 2022, 04:10:47 PM
I don’t know about you’ll but having more teams can make the World Cup dreadfully long and boring too, and many will avoid watching the initial matches as the big teams will probably be clashing later on only. Also I too felt that Italy should have made it this year, but in the end it felt like that they ran out of desire to play at the World Cup.

Everyone is free to have their own opinion about the expansion of the world cup. Personally I would support the expansion, because I believe that addition of more teams means more diversity. I get bored when I watch the same teams again and again. And hopefully in 2026, none of the major teams would fail to qualify for the main tournament (similar to the case with Italy and Chile this time). If I was given a choice, then I would prefer a 64-team world cup, with representation from every nook and corner of the world.
I agree with you the expansion should be a good thing many good teams fail to qualify to the world cup becaise a certain continent has only few seats in the world cup not to mention that the fans want to see their country play in such a big tournament this will be good for football and it will make it more popular and the competition more fierce.
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July 14, 2022, 03:47:39 PM
If I remember correctly, the expansion of the number of participants is carried out mainly not by increasing the number of teams from Europe, but by increasing the number of teams from other regions. Therefore, although the situation will improve, there will still be a chance that several very strong teams from Europe will not get into the final part. And the fact that interest in the tournament is falling is obvious to everyone except officials. There is no point in watching most group games, they are completely pointless.

Europe's representation is being increased by +3. So you can't really say that UEFA is being ignored during the expansion. A total of 16 new slots are created and out of that 3 is from Europe. I believe that it is fair. But CONMEBOL got a very unfair deal. They are the strongest confederation out there and for them, the increase is just +1.5. For the 2026 World Cup, there will be 6 teams from CONMEBOL. I would have liked at least 7 teams from that confederation. Everytime, a number of strong teams from South America miss out on qualification. 

I don't think anyone will ever be happy with the result of the spots given.  Someone will be happy and someone will think they got snubbed.  It's tough when you really don't have an apples to apples view on this having them matchup.
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July 14, 2022, 02:04:27 PM
If I remember correctly, the expansion of the number of participants is carried out mainly not by increasing the number of teams from Europe, but by increasing the number of teams from other regions. Therefore, although the situation will improve, there will still be a chance that several very strong teams from Europe will not get into the final part. And the fact that interest in the tournament is falling is obvious to everyone except officials. There is no point in watching most group games, they are completely pointless.

Europe's representation is being increased by +3. So you can't really say that UEFA is being ignored during the expansion. A total of 16 new slots are created and out of that 3 is from Europe. I believe that it is fair. But CONMEBOL got a very unfair deal. They are the strongest confederation out there and for them, the increase is just +1.5. For the 2026 World Cup, there will be 6 teams from CONMEBOL. I would have liked at least 7 teams from that confederation. Everytime, a number of strong teams from South America miss out on qualification. 
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July 14, 2022, 10:47:02 AM
FIFA obviously wants, for financial and marketing reasons, that as many national teams as possible can participate in the World Cup, and the interestingness and quality of the competition is less important to them.
It all comes down to profit in the end, as always.
I think that the fans will always be interested in the matches of their national teams, and that they will start to be interested in the rest of the competition only when the group stage of the competition is over.
It is really a shame that such a great national team, such as Italy, will not  participate in the World Cup, but I believe that they will surely participate in the next World Cup, because it will be much more easy to qualify, given the much larger number of participants.

If I remember correctly, the expansion of the number of participants is carried out mainly not by increasing the number of teams from Europe, but by increasing the number of teams from other regions. Therefore, although the situation will improve, there will still be a chance that several very strong teams from Europe will not get into the final part. And the fact that interest in the tournament is falling is obvious to everyone except officials. There is no point in watching most group games, they are completely pointless.
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