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July 09, 2022, 05:08:41 AM
yes you are right, the performance of the netherlands has declined from year to year until the time of robin van persie, the netherlands have never won the world cup title. It's a shame, even though I really idolized this team from the days of Dennis Bergkamp and Van Nistelrooy. None of the prestigious events have been won by the Netherlands, as far as I remember the Netherlands was last entered in the 2010 final and was awarded the title of champion without a crown. (correct me if I'm wrong) I don't expect many Dutch squads to qualify for the semi-finals in the Qatar Cup.
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July 09, 2022, 05:01:49 AM
Netherlands might not win the title but they have improved for sure over the last 5-10 years. They werent seen on any big stage and now we can see them on World cup with a pretty solid team honestly. They score a lot of goals and their attack seems to be on of the best

Surprising.. IMO, Netherlands deteriorated during the recent years. They were one of the top teams during the time of Frank Rijkaard, Patrick Kluivert, Edwin van der Sar, Frank de Boer and Marc Overmars. A few years later they had Ruud van Nistelrooy, Rafael van der Vaart, Wesley Sneijder, Arjen Robben and Robin van Persie. Now they don't have any player of that calibre. They didn't even qualified for the world cup in 2018. And in terms of FIFA ranking, Netherlands have been outside top-10 ever since 2014.
But the Netherlands even though it still doesn't have big names like its predecessors, but the Netherlands is starting to develop now. At least now the Netherlands has names like Matthijs de Ligt, Virgil van Dijk, Steven Bergwijn, Daley Blind, Georginio Wijnaldum, Frenkie de Jong and also Memphis Depay. Although their quality is still not as good as their senior players in the Netherlands but at least, the Netherlands has managed to recover and of course I believe that the Netherlands will be a great team in the world cup.
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July 09, 2022, 04:31:11 AM
Netherlands might not win the title but they have improved for sure over the last 5-10 years. They werent seen on any big stage and now we can see them on World cup with a pretty solid team honestly. They score a lot of goals and their attack seems to be on of the best

Surprising.. IMO, Netherlands deteriorated during the recent years. They were one of the top teams during the time of Frank Rijkaard, Patrick Kluivert, Edwin van der Sar, Frank de Boer and Marc Overmars. A few years later they had Ruud van Nistelrooy, Rafael van der Vaart, Wesley Sneijder, Arjen Robben and Robin van Persie. Now they don't have any player of that calibre. They didn't even qualified for the world cup in 2018. And in terms of FIFA ranking, Netherlands have been outside top-10 ever since 2014.
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July 08, 2022, 04:26:54 PM
Netherlands seem like a team that have made big progress in time now. They have a nice potential in the World Cup. Maybe they wouldn't be the winner of the title at the end but they would still have a successful run.
I disagree with this, Netherlands have not been excellent for a long time now and i do not consider them to have made any big progress nor to have any potential in the world cup this year, they do not have any chance of winning it, as for a successful run, i doubt that too, they will surely make it out of the group stage having being paired in the same group with hosts Qatar, Ecuador and Senegal, but after the group stages and into the round of 16, i feel Netherlands would crash out at that stage.

Netherlands might not win the title but they have improved for sure over the last 5-10 years. They werent seen on any big stage and now we can see them on World cup with a pretty solid team honestly. They score a lot of goals and their attack seems to be on of the best
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July 08, 2022, 03:28:15 PM
Netherlands seem like a team that have made big progress in time now. They have a nice potential in the World Cup. Maybe they wouldn't be the winner of the title at the end but they would still have a successful run.
I disagree with this, Netherlands have not been excellent for a long time now and i do not consider them to have made any big progress nor to have any potential in the world cup this year, they do not have any chance of winning it, as for a successful run, i doubt that too, they will surely make it out of the group stage having being paired in the same group with hosts Qatar, Ecuador and Senegal, but after the group stages and into the round of 16, i feel Netherlands would crash out at that stage.
We all know in last few years few European teams are on decline, and they are not competing fully in World cup but still with their quality and skills we can expect challenge from them for strong contenders in this world cup. Even I am also not sure about The Netherlands chance of wining this event but still they can give us very good entertainment because they have few very good players and their performance is also increasing.

Their group is not strong enough so most chances they could be in top 16 after this can they go through or crashed this is big question but no one can ignore them, and they are capable of reaching into last four.
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July 08, 2022, 11:50:24 AM
Netherlands seem like a team that have made big progress in time now. They have a nice potential in the World Cup. Maybe they wouldn't be the winner of the title at the end but they would still have a successful run.
I disagree with this, Netherlands have not been excellent for a long time now and i do not consider them to have made any big progress nor to have any potential in the world cup this year, they do not have any chance of winning it, as for a successful run, i doubt that too, they will surely make it out of the group stage having being paired in the same group with hosts Qatar, Ecuador and Senegal, but after the group stages and into the round of 16, i feel Netherlands would crash out at that stage.
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July 08, 2022, 11:17:03 AM
And I believe both of them would give their best in this tournament - they would want to end their sports carrier on a good note. For a top player what an idea end of the career if the they end it by winning a world cup. Ronaldo and Messi both are rock stars - - Best of luck to both of them. Let's see which of them picks up the trophy.

Winning the world cup for their homelands is not going to be easy at this point, when they are about to retire. But I am sure that both the players will give their best. Messi is more fortunate, as he is in a well balanced team. That is not the case with Ronaldo. His team is overdependent on him and there will be a lot of pressure. But still, I would love to see either Messi or Ronaldo winning the world cup for their respective teams. These two are legendary players and they deserve the trophy this time. But only one team can be the winner. 
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July 08, 2022, 10:29:51 AM

We are talking about two of the most experienced footballers and I don't think that they can be put under pressure. They have been playing at the highest level for almost two decades and by now they can handle pressure better than anyone else. But the expectation from fans will be there as a burden. These players do have superhuman status in front of the eyes of football fans and sometimes people forget that they are human and are prone to making mistakes. But this tournament is very important for them, because it is going to be the last world cup for both these players.
And I believe both of them would give their best in this tournament - they would want to end their sports carrier on a good note. For a top player what an idea end of the career if the they end it by winning a world cup. Ronaldo and Messi both are rock stars - - Best of luck to both of them. Let's see which of them picks up the trophy.
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July 07, 2022, 07:14:07 PM
If I would ever get a chance to ask from world famous Messi or Ronaldo than the only question would be -- do you know all the Soccer fans want you to play like super heros in every match. Do you have that on your mind while playing and how do you cope up when you are unable to perform well in an match. After all they are human too. Smiley

We are talking about two of the most experienced footballers and I don't think that they can be put under pressure. They have been playing at the highest level for almost two decades and by now they can handle pressure better than anyone else. But the expectation from fans will be there as a burden. These players do have superhuman status in front of the eyes of football fans and sometimes people forget that they are human and are prone to making mistakes. But this tournament is very important for them, because it is going to be the last world cup for both these players.
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July 07, 2022, 06:48:02 PM
not just some matches, if you think some are fixed then I would assume most of them are, it's like they gave Italy the Euro but they had to not qualify for the world cup, anyways the final you mentioned with Portugal and German seems tough to happen, I'm expecting a Latin team to win the world cup this year since it's been 19 years when the last one won it which was Brazil, they are the favourites for me unless Argentina made a surprise.

Last time (2018), the world cup was held in Russia and none of the CONMEBOL teams managed to qualify to the semi-finals. France, Belgium, Croatia and England managed to find a spot in the semis and all these teams were from the UEFA (Brazil and Uruguay were kicked out during the QF stage). It is clear that weather played its part in 2018. But this time, that won't be the case, since the weather in Qatar will be very mild during November-December. Also, both Brazil and Argentina have the momentum at this point.

@Rabi3 without any substantial proof we can only speculate about matches being fixed, but coming back to reality I do agree that Brazil has a big chance of winning this World Cup. @Sithara007 I feel that Argentina may not reach the finals, because they’re going to rely heavily on Messi and after shifting to PSG he isn’t performing like he used to when he was playing for Barcelona.
If I would ever get a chance to ask from world famous Messi or Ronaldo than the only question would be -- do you know all the Soccer fans want you to play like super heros in every match. Do you have that on your mind while playing and how do you cope up when you are unable to perform well in an match. After all they are human too. Smiley
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July 07, 2022, 03:53:17 PM
Netherlands seem like a team that have made big progress in time now. They have a nice potential in the World Cup. Maybe they wouldn't be the winner of the title at the end but they would still have a successful run. European teams might be seen as bigger favourites for the title too but this time I expect Argentina and Brazil both to be very competitive. One of them has the potential of making it to the final match. That one is likely to be Brazil for me.
Now they are trying to bounce back after on several occasions they were never able to play well in the world cup and a big chance emerged with their performance which was quite good in qualifying
But the problem is that even if they are seeded, there are always doubts for them at the World Cup, especially with a qualified squad they always fail to win there.
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July 07, 2022, 03:48:06 PM
Netherlands seem like a team that have made big progress in time now. They have a nice potential in the World Cup. Maybe they wouldn't be the winner of the title at the end but they would still have a successful run. European teams might be seen as bigger favourites for the title too but this time I expect Argentina and Brazil both to be very competitive. One of them has the potential of making it to the final match. That one is likely to be Brazil for me.
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July 07, 2022, 09:39:31 AM
I would like to see the Netherlands reach the final and win it, the closest that was to achieve it was Roben, and I remember how the clockwork orange was giving everything, but I think that what the Netherlands has lacked is a lot of luck It would be something new and deserving for them, but one thing is what they deserve and another thing is that they achieve it, we cannot forget the other teams that have an arsenal and are very good and come out eager to succeed.
The Netherlands currently has a very high motivation here, especially now that it looks like they are back to finding their long lost form.
In the qualification they looked like a team that was really ready in any case, they even established themselves as the most productive team in the 2022 World Cup qualification for the European zone with 33 goals there, so there is a big chance for them to be in the world cup this time.
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July 07, 2022, 09:31:34 AM
Here are the groups for the World Cup:



The Final will have one team from the top row and one from the bottom row.

This means that the final for the World Cup 2022 can actually be Brazil vs Argentina, both teams have been defeated zero times so far.

That would be an incredible final.

Yes, I am sure that many predictions, many parlays will have those finals that will be heart-stopping, it is possible that this is the case, because both teams are very well prepared, and want to make history, also everyone thinks of Messi, of CR7, but very few they are acknowledging what Neymar Jr does, and this player cannot go unnoticed, he is a very complete player, in addition to everything that has happened, it is possible that he already has a very professional maturity and commitment to his team, it was discussed a lot of him when he was at Santos in Brazil, after he went to Barcelona the fever towards him decreased, it is said that Real Madrid contacted him by his manager and the call with Florentino Pérez lasted less than 1 minute, so they speculate through the networks, if this player surprises, I think that Brazil will continue to be the King.

not just some matches, if you think some are fixed then I would assume most of them are, it's like they gave Italy the Euro but they had to not qualify for the world cup, anyways the final you mentioned with Portugal and German seems tough to happen, I'm expecting a Latin team to win the world cup this year since it's been 19 years when the last one won it which was Brazil, they are the favourites for me unless Argentina made a surprise.

Last time (2018), the world cup was held in Russia and none of the CONMEBOL teams managed to qualify to the semi-finals. France, Belgium, Croatia and England managed to find a spot in the semis and all these teams were from the UEFA (Brazil and Uruguay were kicked out during the QF stage). It is clear that weather played its part in 2018. But this time, that won't be the case, since the weather in Qatar will be very mild during November-December. Also, both Brazil and Argentina have the momentum at this point.
Brazil and Argentina have good momentum only on their continent. Nobody knows how they will play against European teams. I watched the qualifiers and these two favourites are definitely good, but the other teams have shown poor quality football. I think it might be a consequence of the pandemic. That's why Argentina and Brazil are only good on paper so far.

It is only a matter of time before Argentina becomes world champion. I have to say that that is only possible if Messi is part of the team. I don't see a potential successor waiting for him. What many people forget is that Argentina was close in 2014, when they reached the final of the world championship but lost to Germany. And the Netherlands? They have already reached the final 3 times and lost every time. France and Brazil will surely feel a lot of pressure, especially Brazil because the last World Cup title dates back to 2002. 20 years ago.
I would like to see the Netherlands reach the final and win it, the closest that was to achieve it was Roben, and I remember how the clockwork orange was giving everything, but I think that what the Netherlands has lacked is a lot of luck It would be something new and deserving for them, but one thing is what they deserve and another thing is that they achieve it, we cannot forget the other teams that have an arsenal and are very good and come out eager to succeed.
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July 06, 2022, 03:58:41 PM
not just some matches, if you think some are fixed then I would assume most of them are, it's like they gave Italy the Euro but they had to not qualify for the world cup, anyways the final you mentioned with Portugal and German seems tough to happen, I'm expecting a Latin team to win the world cup this year since it's been 19 years when the last one won it which was Brazil, they are the favourites for me unless Argentina made a surprise.

Last time (2018), the world cup was held in Russia and none of the CONMEBOL teams managed to qualify to the semi-finals. France, Belgium, Croatia and England managed to find a spot in the semis and all these teams were from the UEFA (Brazil and Uruguay were kicked out during the QF stage). It is clear that weather played its part in 2018. But this time, that won't be the case, since the weather in Qatar will be very mild during November-December. Also, both Brazil and Argentina have the momentum at this point.
Brazil and Argentina have good momentum only on their continent. Nobody knows how they will play against European teams. I watched the qualifiers and these two favourites are definitely good, but the other teams have shown poor quality football. I think it might be a consequence of the pandemic. That's why Argentina and Brazil are only good on paper so far.

It is only a matter of time before Argentina becomes world champion. I have to say that that is only possible if Messi is part of the team. I don't see a potential successor waiting for him. What many people forget is that Argentina was close in 2014, when they reached the final of the world championship but lost to Germany. And the Netherlands? They have already reached the final 3 times and lost every time. France and Brazil will surely feel a lot of pressure, especially Brazil because the last World Cup title dates back to 2002. 20 years ago.
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July 06, 2022, 03:54:12 PM
Maradona was not Messi either. The most important cup missing in Messi's career is the World Cup, and a Messi who will do his best to win it will be a player we will see in this tournament. This tournament will also be important for Messi and Ronaldo. They will both participate in this tournament as the last tournament and both of them want to win this cup more than enough. I must say that Argentina has a better squad than Portugal. If I had a choice between the two, it would be Argentina.
There is no doubt Messi is a great player, and he needs to win World Cup but sadly right now their team is still missing few things which are more important to win World Cup only one player can't do this with this right now Argentina is having not enough firepower which is needed for title.

If I have choice then surely I am not going with them for this world cup because we have more teams which are enough tough and have better firepower to win this year's title specially Brazil is also having good lineup with Germany and France are also strong enough even it's all having some good time but with current situation I have feeling Messi is going to retire from soccer without this prestigious title.
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July 06, 2022, 01:04:20 AM
not just some matches, if you think some are fixed then I would assume most of them are, it's like they gave Italy the Euro but they had to not qualify for the world cup, anyways the final you mentioned with Portugal and German seems tough to happen, I'm expecting a Latin team to win the world cup this year since it's been 19 years when the last one won it which was Brazil, they are the favourites for me unless Argentina made a surprise.

Last time (2018), the world cup was held in Russia and none of the CONMEBOL teams managed to qualify to the semi-finals. France, Belgium, Croatia and England managed to find a spot in the semis and all these teams were from the UEFA (Brazil and Uruguay were kicked out during the QF stage). It is clear that weather played its part in 2018. But this time, that won't be the case, since the weather in Qatar will be very mild during November-December. Also, both Brazil and Argentina have the momentum at this point.
Brazil and Argentina have good momentum only on their continent. Nobody knows how they will play against European teams. I watched the qualifiers and these two favourites are definitely good, but the other teams have shown poor quality football. I think it might be a consequence of the pandemic. That's why Argentina and Brazil are only good on paper so far.
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July 05, 2022, 08:47:15 PM
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last season messi didn't stand out so much playing for PSG this time maybe it's different even though messi didn't carve a champion league trophy for SPG but he will totally play with argentina maybe this is his last game in the world cup event. Same thing as Brazil I think these two countries will rely heavily on the two mega stars Messi and Neymar, what's interesting is Germany I think Germany will qualify for the semifinals seeing some of their strikers are very sharp in scoring goals.

It's too much pressure for Messi, I don't think he will manage to do it.

Last chance to win the World Cup pretty much. He has done an amazing career, but still hasn't been able to win the world cup. And I'm not sure he'll be able to deliver this time. He's not Maradona.
Maradona was not Messi either. The most important cup missing in Messi's career is the World Cup, and a Messi who will do his best to win it will be a player we will see in this tournament. This tournament will also be important for Messi and Ronaldo. They will both participate in this tournament as the last tournament and both of them want to win this cup more than enough. I must say that Argentina has a better squad than Portugal. If I had a choice between the two, it would be Argentina.
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July 05, 2022, 07:35:41 PM
No World Cup can ever be won by relying on one player. So I think if Argentina rely on Messi alone, they will have to give up the hope from the World Cup. Everyone's concentration is needed there. Everyone has to play well. There is a lot of pressure on those who are good players. In that case, most of the time the result will not be good if those players are given extra pressure.

True, I still don't understand why people are talking so much about one or another player as if they were responsible for winning the Fifa cup.
In the case of Argentina, this is even more "relevant".

This year I'm very confident in Brazil, as they achieved extraordinary results in the rankings playing with a team of new players, still unknown and with different formations in each game, all without Neymar.

A good team is the one who will win this cup, I hope.
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July 05, 2022, 06:16:44 PM
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No World Cup can ever be won by relying on one player. So I think if Argentina rely on Messi alone, they will have to give up the hope from the World Cup. Everyone's concentration is needed there. Everyone has to play well. There is a lot of pressure on those who are good players. In that case, most of the time the result will not be good if those players are given extra pressure.

I think that's why Maradona is still called D10S (God). It was probably one of the few players in the history of football that actually could win a world cup on his own.

Messi doesn't have that level. We'll see what happens in this world cup, it's probably his last chance to show the world that he can actually do it. It's only a matter of time to see it now.
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